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Re: Speedo question [message #186963] Thu, 11 October 2012 14:43 Go to next message
biggreen is currently offline  biggreen   United States
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While were on the subject, what steps should be taken to find out why my cruise control doesn't work. All I've done so far is verify that I have a good ground as someone once suggested.
I see I can buy a new transducer, but other than the obvious, how do I know its bad? Thanks
Re: Speedo question [message #186976 is a reply to message #186963] Thu, 11 October 2012 18:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rottieluvr is currently offline  Rottieluvr   United States
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If you can get me your email addy, I have a 76 shop manual that has diagrams and test procedure for the stock cruise. I'll scan to pdf. Mine just turned out to be dirt & old grease in the 'brain'. Cleaned up and worked. And now speedo no longer 'waves'.

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Re: Speedo question [message #186982 is a reply to message #186976] Thu, 11 October 2012 20:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks. I've got that PDF. I'll take a look. Good idea to clean up 35 years of dirt, though.
Re: [GMCnet] Speedo question [message #186990 is a reply to message #186976] Thu, 11 October 2012 23:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mel,

That is very kind of you; however, they are all available here:

http://www.bdub.net/factory-manuals.html

You might want to do a bit of poking around Bdub's website, it's the central clearing area for all kinds of info on the GMC.

Regards,
Rob M.


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If you can get me your email addy, I have a 76 shop manual that has diagrams and test procedure for the stock cruise. I'll scan to
pdf. Mine just turned out to be dirt & old grease in the 'brain'. Cleaned up and worked. And now speedo no longer 'waves'.


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Re: [GMCnet] Speedo question [message #187000 is a reply to message #186963] Fri, 12 October 2012 07:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Check the vacuum lines and the dump switch on th brake pedal bracket.  If the dump valve is open or broken it won't work... and if there's no vacuum to the transducer it won't work.  Beyond that, a rebuild is probably in order.
 
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While were on the subject, what steps should be taken to find out why my cruise control doesn't work.  All I've done so far is verify that I have a good ground as someone once suggested. 
I see I can buy a new transducer, but other than the obvious, how do I know its bad?  Thanks
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Re: Speedo question [message #187018 is a reply to message #186963] Fri, 12 October 2012 10:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I know this is so basic I shouldn't mention it - but the only trouble I had with my cruise control was the chain to the carburetor kept coming off. After I found a way to prevent that it has worked fine.

Bob Horton
Re: Speedo question [message #187024 is a reply to message #186963] Fri, 12 October 2012 11:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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biggreen wrote on Thu, 11 October 2012 12:43

While were on the subject, what steps should be taken to find out why my cruise control doesn't work. All I've done so far is verify that I have a good ground as someone once suggested.
I see I can buy a new transducer, but other than the obvious, how do I know its bad? Thanks



I had several issues with my cruise control. First, it was intermittent. At Ken B's suggestion, I ran a ground directly to the rear of the left head. That helped. Next, I tore a hole in the servo (the round black thing with a rubber diaphragm that operates the throttle) while doing a hasty roadside ignition module change out. Got a good used one from Jim K. Fixed that. Next I replaced the transducer with a Jim K. rebuilt unit. Now it was nice and steady after making a few adjustments to the vacuum nipple. Next, the stalk mounted switch gave up. I borrowed a known good one from my mechanic friend for diagnostic purposes and verified that it was bad. I mentioned this on the Net and Jim Decheine came through with one for me (for free) that he removed from his '73. Now, it finally works perfectly.

Probably a lot more hassle that just replacing it with a modern Rostra, but a lot cheaper and it it works satisfactorily.


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: Speedo question [message #187026 is a reply to message #187024] Fri, 12 October 2012 11:27 Go to previous message
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Carl S. wrote on Fri, 12 October 2012 09:24

biggreen wrote on Thu, 11 October 2012 12:43

While were on the subject, what steps should be taken to find out why my cruise control doesn't work. All I've done so far is verify that I have a good ground as someone once suggested.
I see I can buy a new transducer, but other than the obvious, how do I know its bad? Thanks



I had several issues with my cruise control. First, it was intermittent. At Ken B's suggestion, I ran a ground directly to the rear of the left head. That helped. Next, I tore a hole in the servo (the round black thing with a rubber diaphragm that operates the throttle) while doing a hasty roadside ignition module change out. Got a good used one from Jim K. Fixed that. Next I replaced the transducer with a Jim K. rebuilt unit. Now it was nice and steady after making a few adjustments to the vacuum nipple. Next, the stalk mounted switch gave up. I borrowed a known good one from my mechanic friend for diagnostic purposes and verified that it was bad. I mentioned this on the Net and Jim Decheine came through with one for me (for free) that he removed from his '73. Now, it finally works perfectly.

Probably a lot more hassle that just replacing it with a modern Rostra, but a lot cheaper and it it works satisfactorily.



To add to the above, it seems like every time I am under the hatch for something I knock a vacuum line off of one of the cruise control connections, usually the servo. I have learned to check those connections now, every time, right before I close the hatch. I suppose I could just put a better clamp on the hoses to prevent this from happening.


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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