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[GMCnet] Timing question [message #184505] Fri, 14 September 2012 19:26 Go to next message
glwgmc is currently offline  glwgmc   United States
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Sorry, John, we will not be at Amana. I would love to help you with your alignment after all you have been through! We just got back from a 3000 mile jaunt up in the mountains following my surgery and Sharon says we need to stay home to enjoy the fall colors here We will be going south for the wet months right after Christmas.

The throttle plate appears to be responding normally to the idle adjust screw but vac on that port stays at around 13", a bit lower than manifold, but not by a lot. The coach runs so well and is so strong I will just follow the advice here and ignore that, time it at 10 static with the vac blocked and enjoy the result.

Thanks to all for the help.

Jerry
Jerry Work
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From: John R. Lebetski <gransport@aol.com>
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Question I have is why you are leaking vac to the ported port at idle???? Is the base idle setup using that much throttle rotation to be uncovering the port with the blades? Are the throttle plates installed correctly on the shaft? Also remember the real GMC Qjet used a unique triple primary rod but that's another thing. Are you coming to Amana? I'll bring your kit but need help with allignment due to recent hospital stay. I'd love to look at that throttle plate to see wHY?
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Re: [GMCnet] Timing question [message #184520 is a reply to message #184505] Fri, 14 September 2012 22:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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John,

If you do bring your Jerry Work alignment rig to Amana, I'd like to show it
at the seminar I'm supposed to give. Well, I'd rather not call it a
"seminar"... you'll notice the title says, "Discussion...". WE're going to
talk about alignment -- there will inevitably be a lot of people in the
audience who know more about alignment than I do who will hopefully share
that knowledge so we all learn something.

I'll be showing my simple jigs and I'd like for everyone to see Jerry's
also; my simple handout will consist mostly of useful URL's, including
Jerry's site.

We should be able to drum up a work session/demo using your coach & tools.

Ken H.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Work Jerry <glwork@mac.com> wrote:

> Sorry, John, we will not be at Amana...
>


> From: John R. Lebetski

...

Are you coming to Amana? I'll bring your kit but need help with
allignment due to recent hospital stay. I'd love to look at that throttle
plate to see wHY?

> --
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Timing question [message #184556 is a reply to message #184505] Sat, 15 September 2012 08:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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This was a real puzzler for me also. Idled down to 450 rpm, the vacuum
gauge still read 12-13 inches of vacuum at idle. I've never seen that with
ported vacuum.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Work Jerry <glwork@mac.com> wrote:

> Sorry, John, we will not be at Amana. I would love to help you with your
> alignment after all you have been through! We just got back from a 3000
> mile jaunt up in the mountains following my surgery and Sharon says we need
> to stay home to enjoy the fall colors here We will be going south for the
> wet months right after Christmas.
>
> The throttle plate appears to be responding normally to the idle adjust
> screw but vac on that port stays at around 13", a bit lower than manifold,
> but not by a lot. The coach runs so well and is so strong I will just
> follow the advice here and ignore that, time it at 10 static with the vac
> blocked and enjoy the result.
>
> Thanks to all for the help.
>
> Jerry
> Jerry Work
> Fine furniture designed and hand crafted in the 1907 former Masonic Temple
> building in historic Kerby, OR
> glwork@mac.com
> http://jerrywork.com
> 541-592-5360
> ------------------
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 18:16:24 -0500
> From: John R. Lebetski <gransport@aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Timing question
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Message-ID: <2d0ab.5053bac8@gmc.mybirdfeeder.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15"
>
>
>
> Question I have is why you are leaking vac to the ported port at idle????
> Is the base idle setup using that much throttle rotation to be uncovering
> the port with the blades? Are the throttle plates installed correctly on
> the shaft? Also remember the real GMC Qjet used a unique triple primary
> rod but that's another thing. Are you coming to Amana? I'll bring your kit
> but need help with allignment due to recent hospital stay. I'd love to
> look at that throttle plate to see wHY?
> --
> John Lebetski
> Chicago, IL
> 77 Eleganza II
> Source America First
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Timing question [message #184584 is a reply to message #184520] Sat, 15 September 2012 10:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dolph Santorine is currently offline  Dolph Santorine   United States
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Ken

Is John bringing his Jerry Work alignment rig, or should I bring mine?

Dolph Santorine

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On Sep 14, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> John,
>
> If you do bring your Jerry Work alignment rig to Amana, I'd like to show it
> at the seminar I'm supposed to give. Well, I'd rather not call it a
> "seminar"... you'll notice the title says, "Discussion...". WE're going to
> talk about alignment -- there will inevitably be a lot of people in the
> audience who know more about alignment than I do who will hopefully share
> that knowledge so we all learn something.
>
> I'll be showing my simple jigs and I'd like for everyone to see Jerry's
> also; my simple handout will consist mostly of useful URL's, including
> Jerry's site.
>
> We should be able to drum up a work session/demo using your coach & tools.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Work Jerry <glwork@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, John, we will not be at Amana...
>>
>
>
>> From: John R. Lebetski
>
> ...
>
> Are you coming to Amana? I'll bring your kit but need help with
> allignment due to recent hospital stay. I'd love to look at that throttle
> plate to see wHY?
>
>> --
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Timing question [message #184622 is a reply to message #184584] Sat, 15 September 2012 18:03 Go to previous message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Dolph,

We need John to answer that -- I wouldn't want to speak for him. :-)

Ken H.

On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Dolph Santorine wrote:

> Ken
>
> Is John bringing his Jerry Work alignment rig, or should I bring mine?
>
>
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