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[GMCnet] House Battery Capacity [message #183984] Tue, 11 September 2012 09:17 Go to next message
Peter Garry is currently offline  Peter Garry   United States
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This question is for Dan. You say you have 4, 6 volt batteries, what is the total amp hours of the set-up? What type of batteries do you have?
Dry camping without using a generator much (or at all) is my goal. 110v AC is not on the list of required conveniences.

Peter Garry
Calgary Alberta
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Re: [GMCnet] House Battery Capacity [message #183987 is a reply to message #183984] Tue, 11 September 2012 09:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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the questions you should ask yourslef, how long do you plan to dry camp at a time. and how much 110volt convenience do you want to have while dry camping?

I think i have a pretty good base(start) for dry camping. Very easy for me to add to it.

I have just 2 6 volt golf cart batteries. I have about $500 invested in solar/led lights. and my big draw is my electric fridge. but I think I can get through a friday-sunday camping trip without 110 power. I do not run a TV or anything off inverter.. yet.

If I had a propane fridge and waterheater. I think I could go for weeks with my setup. without running a tv. or other 110v applicances off an inverter.

my problems at that point would be water and waste.

I think going to 2 sets of golf cart batteries, and/or adding more solar will give one the ability to run more 110v stuff off an inverter, like a TV or microwave.


Jon Roche 75 palm beach EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now. St. Cloud, MN http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
Re: [GMCnet] House Battery Capacity [message #184027 is a reply to message #183987] Tue, 11 September 2012 14:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mickeysss is currently offline  mickeysss   United States
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i would say micro wave would be out of reach with out a generator being used, maybe not i would like to know this. Having an instant tankless water

heater and also one that is the regular one with motor heat and electric 110 both would be good. I am thinking putting a water tank in the top pod maybe

20 gallons with a window in the 1/6 th the pod to allow the sun to heat it and use gravity to feed the sink and shower could work with out using the pump.

You could pump water up there from the main with the motor running while driving if you wanted, or fill it with a hose with a clear hose to come out the

side to see when it is full like a steam engine glass plumped into it. with maybe a focus of light on the water tank Lexan window in top of pod and h2o tank

This would make 3 kinds of water heaters. propane instant on demand like many use here,:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5266-tankless-water-heater-installation-2009.html

or here:

manny's out side one, http://www.henry-davis.com/GMC/AuxShowerOpen.jpg.jpg

also the regular 110 volt with motor hoses to the radiator to use in case you use the motor to charge the batteries as well as water,

get the stuff here:

http://www.appliedgmc.com/level.itml/icOid/479

also solar put in the pod with a window in the top of the pod for sun

heating and gravity feed water that you could let drain into the main tank if you wanted. This along with say 300 watts of solar cells and 6 x 6volt batteries

in series with controllers and chargers inverters and switches to isolate when you want with the onan working as well. This would give you a good bank

but a lot of weight for the ball joints in front. I like the nuwave 110 volt oven and now the nuwave cook top, check this out.

https://www.nuwavepic.com/?ref_version=PPC-ADWORDS-PN07&gclid=CPqbpd6arrICFcV7Qgod3VEAAw

stops fires for cook tops, also the oven:

http://www.mynuwaveoven.com/?ref_version=PPC-ADWORDS-NH3536&gclid=CPfs9ombrrICFWjhQgodPmoAhA#back

I am taking the propane oven out and having these easy to pack and move around. They are amazing.

I can see having a propane top as well only like the one that is enclosed on the counter top that some have obtained that closes making the

counter top even with the top of the 2 burners:

http://danandteri.blogspot.com/2012/07/gmc-motorhome-stove-top.html

Having a 2K watt generator for outside cooking with all the nuwave stuff would be a good deal. It is fast cooking and clean and safe

for fires. the burner for the stove top you can put your hand on it and it will not burn you yet it cooks just like a stove top amazing.

mickey :-)

77 palm beach

anaheim ca.

there is ice chest for lin and larry's boat last up to 30 days, and gravity water for all, check them out.

http://books.google.com/books?id=GiqyDKm88NsC&pg=PA98-IA2&lpg=PA98-IA2&dq=lin+and+larry+ice+chest+and+gravity+water+tank&source=bl& ;ots=tduzFweLs1&sig=wCZJzseQ6xwHXo56oPyjcTH0-XM&hl=en#v=onepage&q=lin%20and%20larry%20ice%20chest%20and%20gravity%20water%20tank&f=fal se

http://www.landlpardey.com/Tips/Tips_2005_April.html

and this one:

http://books.google.com/books?id=oE9aGHwxpsIC&pg=PA45&lpg=PA45&dq=lin+and+larry+ice+chest+and+gravity+water+tank&source=bl&ots=7zc hn6hh9W&sig=Pou3y1lXwXaCOYlxsrf-SctmhKo&hl=en#v=onepage&q=lin%20and%20larry%20ice%20chest%20and%20gravity%20water%20tank&f=false

http://www.landlpardey.com/Where/2008/October.html

http://www.landlpardey.com/Tips/Tips_2000_May.html

http://www.landlpardey.com/Tips/2007/June-2.html

http://www.landlpardey.com/Tips/2006/March.html

http://www.landlpardey.com/Tips/2006/March.html

http://www.landlpardey.com/Tips/Tips_2004_December.html

http://www.landlpardey.com/Tips/Tips_2005_October.html

http://www.landlpardey.com/Tips/Tips_1999_October.html




On Sep 11, 2012, at 7:36 AM, Jon Roche wrote:

>
>
> the questions you should ask yourslef, how long do you plan to dry camp at a time. and how much 110volt convenience do you want to have while dry camping?
>
> I think i have a pretty good base(start) for dry camping. Very easy for me to add to it.
>
> I have just 2 6 volt golf cart batteries. I have about $500 invested in solar/led lights. and my big draw is my electric fridge. but I think I can get through a friday-sunday camping trip without 110 power. I do not run a TV or anything off inverter.. yet.
>
> If I had a propane fridge and waterheater. I think I could go for weeks with my setup. without running a tv. or other 110v applicances off an inverter.
>
> my problems at that point would be water and waste.
>
> I think going to 2 sets of golf cart batteries, and/or adding more solar will give one the ability to run more 110v stuff off an inverter, like a TV or microwave.
> --
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> St. Cloud, MN
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Re: [GMCnet] House Battery Capacity [message #184028 is a reply to message #183984] Tue, 11 September 2012 15:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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these help a lot:

http://www.sailorssolutions.com/?page=ProductDetails&Item=SEN10W

mickey:-)

anaheim ca.

77 palm beach


On Sep 11, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Peter Garry wrote:

> This question is for Dan. You say you have 4, 6 volt batteries, what is the total amp hours of the set-up? What type of batteries do you have?
> Dry camping without using a generator much (or at all) is my goal. 110v AC is not on the list of required conveniences.
>
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> Calgary Alberta
> 1973 - 23' once a painted desert
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Re: [GMCnet] House Battery Capacity [message #231161 is a reply to message #183987] Mon, 25 November 2013 02:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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this seems like a good way to go for boon docking design for a gmc to live on the beach for weeks at a time and surf.

mick anaheim ca. 77 palm beach. This and a small kipor generator, to charge when needed to save gas from the onan.

a 110 fridge would not work at all compared to this unless you are plugged into 110 at a park. then park living go 110.




On Sep 11, 2012, at 7:36 AM, Jon Roche wrote:

>
>
> the questions you should ask yourslef, how long do you plan to dry camp at a time. and how much 110volt convenience do you want to have while dry camping?
>
> I think i have a pretty good base(start) for dry camping. Very easy for me to add to it.
>
> I have just 2 6 volt golf cart batteries. I have about $500 invested in solar/led lights. and my big draw is my electric fridge. but I think I can get through a friday-sunday camping trip without 110 power. I do not run a TV or anything off inverter.. yet.
>
> If I had a propane fridge and waterheater. I think I could go for weeks with my setup. without running a tv. or other 110v applicances off an inverter.
>
> my problems at that point would be water and waste.
>
> I think going to 2 sets of golf cart batteries, and/or adding more solar will give one the ability to run more 110v stuff off an inverter, like a TV or microwave.
> --
> 75 palm beach
> St. Cloud, MN
> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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Re: [GMCnet] House Battery Capacity [message #231215 is a reply to message #183984] Mon, 25 November 2013 12:43 Go to previous message
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Peter Garry wrote on Tue, 11 September 2012 09:17

This question is for Dan. You say you have 4, 6 volt batteries, what is the total amp hours of the set-up? What type of batteries do you have?
Dry camping without using a generator much (or at all) is my goal. 110v AC is not on the list of required conveniences.

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Calgary Alberta
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Peter, if this was for me, I am sorry I missed it over a year ago. Maybe I can help others who may have come along since then with similar question.
I use batteries from SAMs club. I believe new they were about 430 amp hours. Mine are now five years old and I have adjusted my meter to reflect most of the change. Normally I set my meter for 80%
I have had a blast learning to live off the grid. First year or two I nearly died trying to keep charge in batteries. Now we can live as long as we want with no elec hook ups, as long as not running the roof air or furnace. When we need those two it is time to move.
Set up the coach before spending money on solar is most important. Good led lighting, on demand water heater, propane refer, etc.
Good metering is very important also. Jon, above, has been working to run his with no Onan and has come a long ways. Free is good. We use a good quality 2000 watt inverter, constant, to run microwave, vacuum, and hair dryer. Sometimes I use it for the ice maker but it is mostly a buck a bag so I just buy ice couple times a week when dry camping. We also run a nice catalytic lp heater to knock the chill off in mornings when needed. No fan so no elec. took my meter to Walmart and bought the tv that drew least amount of current. A big savings for me as I watch tv a lot, we have two flat screens and two satellite receivers.
I pulled our convection microwave and replaced it with a 700 watt microwave. All 4 of our batteries are hooked together but I would not oppose running two 12 volt banks, depending on ones needs.
Life is good.
Dan


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