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MIGUEL MENDEZ is currently offline  MIGUEL MENDEZ   United States
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ok, I started installing the MSD Atomic when they 1st came out, i think if my count is right, yesterdays install on mr Fin Bevens GMC is #9, and one on the lift 1/2 way done is #10.

I installed these on a test trial with 2 free units from MSD, wow, nice set up and works so well the customers actually purchased them and did not want to return them.

I like to test things out before selling them, i run them hard, for example, yesterday, me and Gene Barrows took Fins out for the learn drive and at 60 MPH, vac is at 15/16 inch, tenps cool and oil pressure 40 psi, at 60 mph, you step on it and 70 is there far before you know it, passing a truck is no problem, you can actualy fell yourself being pushed back in the seat when you step on it, no, not like a Z06 or a ZR1, but you do feel it and notice it.

I even raced a toyota prius on an on ramp , up hill and beat her, hahaha, i am sure she was not even trying but, it was fun, my point being, these work good, in fact, far better than the exsisting units out there, i remove a current unit being sold and was taken aback when i saw how the adapter plate was centered over the intake but i will say , it looked like 50 % was blocked by the original intake, wow, and we seem to worry about mandrel bends for the exhaust, hmmmmmmmmm

The 9 i have set up so far, i have run as non return set ups, with the stock HEI and vac advance, I have worked a bit with MSD, and i have never ever had a problem calling them when i needed to get tech help, just call the #( 9 1 5 ) 8 5 7 - 5 2 0 0, the push 1, 1, 1, and that gets you to tech for the msd side and those guys there are very frendly.

Those who want the man. online, just sned me an email (mokingo@hotmail.com) and i'll send it to you, mine is in color so you can see where ever colored wire goes, so simple, the only thing you need to do is set up the "IAC", but once thats done, button it up, leave the controler plugged in and drive it for about 30 to 40 miles in learn mode and thats really it.

No, it does not take 4 hours to install, in a gmc, trust me, it takes longer, but all in all, good unit and i would rather spend my money on it than the current stuff out there.

Someday, I toooooo will become a GMC guru, where as, i will hear, i talked to Miguel and he says it works fine, (Sorry Steve F, i love ya), hahaha, so, for the mean time, i will continue testing and trying new things and just let the cat out of the bag as she will.

Once again, if any one wants on, please allow Jim K to sell it to you, this keeps his shop storng and alive, and we all need Jim K,
there have been a few things I tried to market in the past, ie" eagle wheels" and not one I could sell, i gave it to Jim K, and sells them like hot cakes, hmmmmmmmmmmm, so please, if anyone is interested in the MSD ATOMIC and you want to purchase it, call JIM K, please.

As for the cost, look, it really comes complete with the exception of the adapter plate from square bore to spread bore, and yes, you will have to dog house up about 1 1/2 inch, but if you cannot step up one more 1 1/2, then don't get it, stick to what ya got, but trust me, after installing 9 so far, it is to me, the way to go.

Thanks for listening and sorry for any mistakes on my spelling, hahaha, jim k calls me his brother so, my eyes have actually start to slant some, damn JAP.

Once again, thank to all and happy motoring in your GMC's


Miguel

1978 Royale Pain in the %$@, side bath w/ a 403 that i love.

GMC name : The other woman


http://www.mgmgmc.com

[Updated on: Fri, 24 August 2012 08:43]

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Re: [GMCnet] Cats out of the bag [message #181561 is a reply to message #181557] Fri, 24 August 2012 09:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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I would like a copy of the manual
gene


On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 6:40 AM, MIGUEL MENDEZ <mokingo6@msn.com> wrote:

>
>
>
> ok, I started installing the MSD Atomic when they 1st came out, i think if
> my count is right, yesterdays install on mr Fin Bevens GMC is #9, and one
> on the lift 1/2 way done is #10.
>
> I installed these on a test trial with 2 free units from MSD, wow, nice
> set up and works so well the customers actually purchased them and did not
> want to return them.
>
> I like to test things out before selling them, i run them hard, for
> example, yesterday, me and Gene Barrows took Fins out for the learn drive
> and at 60 MPH, vac is at 15/16 inch, tenps cool and oil pressure 40 psi, at
> 60 mph, you step on it and 70 is there far before you know it, passing a
> truck is no problem, you can actualy fell yourself being pushed back in the
> seat when you step on it, no, not like a Z06 or a ZR1, but you do feel it
> and notice it.
>
> I even raced a toyota prius on an on ramp , up hill and beat her, hahaha,
> i am sure she was not even trying but, it was fun, my point being, these
> work good, in fact, far better than the exsisting units out there, i remove
> a current unit being sold and was taken aback when i saw how the adapter
> plate was centered over the intake but i will say , it looked like 50 % was
> blocked by the original intake, wow, and we seem to worry about mandrel
> bends for the exhaust, hmmmmmmmmm
>
> The 9 i have set up so far, i have run as non return set ups, with the
> stock HEI and vac advance, I have worked a bit with MSD, and i have never
> ever had a problem calling them when i needed to get tech help, just call
> the #( 9 1 5 ) 8 5 7 - 5 2 0 0, the push 1, 1, 1, and that gets you to tech
> for the msd side and those guys there are very frendly.
>
> Those who want the man. online, just sned me an email and i'll send it to
> you, mine is in color so you can see where ever colored wire goes, so
> simple, the only thing you need to do is set up the "IAC", but once thats
> done, button it up, leave the controler plugged in and drive it for about
> 30 to 40 miles in learn mode and thats really it.
>
> No, it does not take 4 hours to install, in a gmc, trust me, it takes
> longer, but all in all, good unit and i would rather spend my money on it
> than the current stuff out there.
>
> Someday, I toooooo will become a GMC guru, where as, i will hear, i talked
> to Miguel and he says it works fine, (Sorry Steve F, i love ya), hahaha,
> so, for the mean time, i will continue testing and trying new things and
> just let the cat out of the bag as she will.
>
> Once again, if any one wants on, please allow Jim K to sell it to you,
> this keeps his shop storng and alive, and we all need Jim K,
> there have been a few things I tried to market in the past, ie" eagle
> wheels" and not one I could sell, i gave it to Jim K, and sells them like
> hot cakes, hmmmmmmmmmmm, so please, if anyone is interested in the MSD
> ATOMIC and you want to purchase it, call JIM K, please.
>
> As for the cost, look, it really comes complete with the exception of the
> adapter plate from square bore to spread bore, and yes, you will have to
> dog house up about 1 1/2 inch, but if you cannot step up one more 1 1/2,
> then don't get it, stick to what ya got, but trust me, after installing 9
> so far, it is to me, the way to go.
>
> Thanks for listening and sorry for any mistakes on my spelling, hahaha,
> jim k calls me his brother so, my eyes have actually start to slant some,
> damn JAP.
>
> Once again, thank to all and happy motoring in your GMC's
> --
> Miguel
>
> 1978 Royale Pain in the %$@, side bath w/ a 403 that i love.
>
> GMC name : The other woman
>
>
> http://www.mgmgmc.com
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Re: Cats out of the bag [message #181578 is a reply to message #181557] Fri, 24 August 2012 12:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MIGUEL MENDEZ is currently offline  MIGUEL MENDEZ   United States
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Hello Gene,

Send me an email so i can attach it and reply, thanks


Miguel

1978 Royale Pain in the %$@, side bath w/ a 403 that i love.

GMC name : The other woman


http://www.mgmgmc.com
Re: Cats out of the bag [message #181583 is a reply to message #181578] Fri, 24 August 2012 13:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MIGUEL MENDEZ wrote on Fri, 24 August 2012 12:36

Hello Gene,

Send me an email so i can attach it and reply, thanks


It would be great if you could also send a copy to bdub for the manuals files.


Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
Re: Cats out of the bag [message #181585 is a reply to message #181583] Fri, 24 August 2012 13:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MIGUEL MENDEZ is currently offline  MIGUEL MENDEZ   United States
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PLEASE, someone send me an email and then, you can post it anywhere you like, i cannot seem to do that here

Miguel

1978 Royale Pain in the %$@, side bath w/ a 403 that i love.

GMC name : The other woman


http://www.mgmgmc.com
Re: Cats out of the bag [message #181590 is a reply to message #181557] Fri, 24 August 2012 14:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just when I think I half way understand these beast something like this comes up and peeks my curiosity for something else to strain the tranny, not trying to sound out of the loop but what MSD product is it that you are talking about????
Skip Hartline


74 Canyon Lands, FiTech, 3.7 FD LSD, Manny Tranny, Springfield Distributor, 2001 Chevy Tracker Ragtop Towd
Re: [GMCnet] Cats out of the bag [message #181594 is a reply to message #181590] Fri, 24 August 2012 14:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Miguel is referring to the Atomic 1 EFI system by MSD
http://www.msdignition.com/products/atomic/. This is basically a plug and
play TBI system for any V8. The nice thing about it is that all of the
external sensors are mostly contained in the throttle body housing
eliminating the need for lots of extraneous wiring. It's a very clean
installation. You program it by a hand held device and you basically punch
in your parameters. No EPROMS to burn. You can;t get as detailed with your
engine setup as you can with the EBL but then again you might not want to.
Sounds like Miguelito has it dialed in. Nice to do a drag race between the
Howell with the EBL and the Atomic to see who wins. I'll race my 23 with the
Howell/EBL against Fin Bevens 26 with the Atomic.

Thanks

Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA

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>
>
> Just when I think I half way understand these beast something like this
> comes up and peeks my curiosity for something else to strain the tranny,
> not trying to sound out of the loop but what MSD product is it that you
> are talking about????
> Skip Hartline
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Re: Cats out of the bag [message #181595 is a reply to message #181557] Fri, 24 August 2012 14:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MSD Atomic is a stand alone, aftermarket fuel injection system. Their web page makes it sound quite interesting and seems to have a wide variety of applications.

George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
Re: [GMCnet] Cats out of the bag [message #181596 is a reply to message #181594] Fri, 24 August 2012 14:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gee, Gary, until a few days ago, I thought a MSD was a Marine Sanitation Device.

Fin.
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From: Gary Worobec<mailto:gtw5@earthlink.net>
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Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Cats out of the bag


Miguel is referring to the Atomic 1 EFI system by MSD
http://www.msdignition.com/products/atomic/<http://www.msdignition.com/products/atomic/>. This is basically a plug and
play TBI system for any V8. The nice thing about it is that all of the
external sensors are mostly contained in the throttle body housing
eliminating the need for lots of extraneous wiring. It's a very clean
installation. You program it by a hand held device and you basically punch
in your parameters. No EPROMS to burn. You can;t get as detailed with your
engine setup as you can with the EBL but then again you might not want to.
Sounds like Miguelito has it dialed in. Nice to do a drag race between the
Howell with the EBL and the Atomic to see who wins. I'll race my 23 with the
Howell/EBL against Fin Bevens 26 with the Atomic.

Thanks

Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA

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To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org<mailto:gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 12:07 PM
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>
>
> Just when I think I half way understand these beast something like this
> comes up and peeks my curiosity for something else to strain the tranny,
> not trying to sound out of the loop but what MSD product is it that you
> are talking about????
> Skip Hartline
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Re: Cats out of the bag [message #181597 is a reply to message #181557] Fri, 24 August 2012 15:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The PO for my beast did a motor rebuild and put on the complete edelbrock top end kit:cam, heads, high manifold, performer carb. roller rocker arms, Does this unit lend itself to this type of setup? My ignition is the stock points dist, with mallory upgrade no HEI or computer.Motor cover already 4 inches higher. NO matter how much I work with the carb it always seems rich especially at idle and lean in midrange and if I richen up the midrange you can hear the motor just won't seem to smooth out and the other tach known as the fuel gauge shows it.. I've heard not to look for better milage but as black as my exhaust pipe runs I beleive it can only help. I guess the EFI on my regular vehicles has spoiled me, I grew up as most of you with either manual chokes or having to set the auto choke when the motor was cold. Just poking around for thougts and ideals on EFI. conversion.
Skip Hartline


74 Canyon Lands, FiTech, 3.7 FD LSD, Manny Tranny, Springfield Distributor, 2001 Chevy Tracker Ragtop Towd
Re: [GMCnet] Cats out of the bag [message #181598 is a reply to message #181596] Fri, 24 August 2012 15:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Fin,
I saw it at the SEMA show a while back and went through a whole demo on it.
It looks really good. Be interested to see if you get an mpg increase.

Thanks,

Gary Worobec
Director, Product Development
PAXTON/PATTERSON
(O) 951-763-0518
(C) 773-230-6226
gtw5@earthlink.net
www.paxtonpatterson.com




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From: "Fin Beven" <FinBeven@MSN.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Cats out of the bag


> Gee, Gary, until a few days ago, I thought a MSD was a Marine Sanitation
> Device.
>
> Fin.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gary Worobec<mailto:gtw5@earthlink.net>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org<mailto:gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 12:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Cats out of the bag
>
>
> Miguel is referring to the Atomic 1 EFI system by MSD
>
> http://www.msdignition.com/products/atomic/<http://www.msdignition.com/products/atomic/>.
> This is basically a plug and
> play TBI system for any V8. The nice thing about it is that all of the
> external sensors are mostly contained in the throttle body housing
> eliminating the need for lots of extraneous wiring. It's a very clean
> installation. You program it by a hand held device and you basically
> punch
> in your parameters. No EPROMS to burn. You can;t get as detailed with
> your
> engine setup as you can with the EBL but then again you might not want
> to.
> Sounds like Miguelito has it dialed in. Nice to do a drag race between
> the
> Howell with the EBL and the Atomic to see who wins. I'll race my 23 with
> the
> Howell/EBL against Fin Bevens 26 with the Atomic.
>
> Thanks
>
> Gary and Joanne Worobec
> 1973 GMC Glacier
> Anza, CA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Skip Hartline" <skiphartline@aol.com<mailto:skiphartline@aol.com>>
> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org<mailto:gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>>
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 12:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Cats out of the bag
>
>
> >
> >
> > Just when I think I half way understand these beast something like this
> > comes up and peeks my curiosity for something else to strain the
> tranny,
> > not trying to sound out of the loop but what MSD product is it that you
> > are talking about????
> > Skip Hartline
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Re: [GMCnet] Cats out of the bag [message #181599 is a reply to message #181598] Fri, 24 August 2012 15:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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8 to 10 I think
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On Aug 24, 2012, at 1:27 PM, "Gary Worobec" <gtw5@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Fin,
> I saw it at the SEMA show a while back and went through a whole demo on it.
> It looks really good. Be interested to see if you get an mpg increase.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gary Worobec
> Director, Product Development
> PAXTON/PATTERSON
> (O) 951-763-0518
> (C) 773-230-6226
> gtw5@earthlink.net
> www.paxtonpatterson.com
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fin Beven" <FinBeven@MSN.com>
> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 12:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Cats out of the bag
>
>
>> Gee, Gary, until a few days ago, I thought a MSD was a Marine Sanitation
>> Device.
>>
>> Fin.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Gary Worobec<mailto:gtw5@earthlink.net>
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org<mailto:gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 12:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Cats out of the bag
>>
>>
>> Miguel is referring to the Atomic 1 EFI system by MSD
>>
>> http://www.msdignition.com/products/atomic/<http://www.msdignition.com/products/atomic/>.
>> This is basically a plug and
>> play TBI system for any V8. The nice thing about it is that all of the
>> external sensors are mostly contained in the throttle body housing
>> eliminating the need for lots of extraneous wiring. It's a very clean
>> installation. You program it by a hand held device and you basically
>> punch
>> in your parameters. No EPROMS to burn. You can;t get as detailed with
>> your
>> engine setup as you can with the EBL but then again you might not want
>> to.
>> Sounds like Miguelito has it dialed in. Nice to do a drag race between
>> the
>> Howell with the EBL and the Atomic to see who wins. I'll race my 23 with
>> the
>> Howell/EBL against Fin Bevens 26 with the Atomic.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Gary and Joanne Worobec
>> 1973 GMC Glacier
>> Anza, CA
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Skip Hartline" <skiphartline@aol.com<mailto:skiphartline@aol.com>>
>> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org<mailto:gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>>
>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 12:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Cats out of the bag
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just when I think I half way understand these beast something like this
>>> comes up and peeks my curiosity for something else to strain the
>> tranny,
>>> not trying to sound out of the loop but what MSD product is it that you
>>> are talking about????
>>> Skip Hartline
>>> _______________________________________________
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Re: [GMCnet] Cats out of the bag [message #181600 is a reply to message #181598] Fri, 24 August 2012 15:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It will be interesting. For me, the real test will be the climb on I-5, up from the Bakersfield side to Gorman. Even with my 3.7, I'm in 2nd gear doing 40 - 45 most of the way up that hill now. And I have a relatively light 26.

And to my recollection, a trip up 120 from Lee Vining to Tioga has been in 3rd gear, doing maybe 25.

Hoping for the best with this "upgrade", and trusting in Miguel.

Fin.
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Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Cats out of the bag


Fin,
I saw it at the SEMA show a while back and went through a whole demo on it.
It looks really good. Be interested to see if you get an mpg increase.

Thanks,

Gary Worobec
Director, Product Development
PAXTON/PATTERSON
(O) 951-763-0518
(C) 773-230-6226
gtw5@earthlink.net<mailto:gtw5@earthlink.net>
www.paxtonpatterson.com<http://www.paxtonpatterson.com/>




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> Gee, Gary, until a few days ago, I thought a MSD was a Marine Sanitation
> Device.
>
> Fin.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gary Worobec<mailto:gtw5@earthlink.net<mailto:gtw5@earthlink.net>>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org<mailto:gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org<mailto:gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org%3Cmailto:gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>>
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 12:53 PM
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>
>
> Miguel is referring to the Atomic 1 EFI system by MSD
>
> http://www.msdignition.com/products/atomic/<http://www.msdignition.com/products/atomic/<http://www.msdignition.com/products/atomic/%3Chttp://www.msdignition.com/products/atomic/>>.
> This is basically a plug and
> play TBI system for any V8. The nice thing about it is that all of the
> external sensors are mostly contained in the throttle body housing
> eliminating the need for lots of extraneous wiring. It's a very clean
> installation. You program it by a hand held device and you basically
> punch
> in your parameters. No EPROMS to burn. You can;t get as detailed with
> your
> engine setup as you can with the EBL but then again you might not want
> to.
> Sounds like Miguelito has it dialed in. Nice to do a drag race between
> the
> Howell with the EBL and the Atomic to see who wins. I'll race my 23 with
> the
> Howell/EBL against Fin Bevens 26 with the Atomic.
>
> Thanks
>
> Gary and Joanne Worobec
> 1973 GMC Glacier
> Anza, CA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
>
> >
> >
> > Just when I think I half way understand these beast something like this
> > comes up and peeks my curiosity for something else to strain the
> tranny,
> > not trying to sound out of the loop but what MSD product is it that you
> > are talking about????
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Re: [GMCnet] Cats out of the bag [message #181605 is a reply to message #181600] Fri, 24 August 2012 17:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mickeysss is currently offline  mickeysss   United States
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will the smog test take this change in ca. ?

mickey
77 palm beach
anaheim ca.



On Aug 24, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Fin Beven wrote:

> It will be interesting. For me, the real test will be the climb on I-5, up from the Bakersfield side to Gorman. Even with my 3.7, I'm in 2nd gear doing 40 - 45 most of the way up that hill now. And I have a relatively light 26.
>
> And to my recollection, a trip up 120 from Lee Vining to Tioga has been in 3rd gear, doing maybe 25.
>
> Hoping for the best with this "upgrade", and trusting in Miguel.
>
> Fin.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gary Worobec<mailto:gtw5@earthlink.net>
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> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 1:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Cats out of the bag
>
>
> Fin,
> I saw it at the SEMA show a while back and went through a whole demo on it.
> It looks really good. Be interested to see if you get an mpg increase.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gary Worobec
> Director, Product Development
> PAXTON/PATTERSON
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>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fin Beven" <FinBeven@MSN.com<mailto:FinBeven@MSN.com>>
> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org<mailto:gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>>
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 12:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Cats out of the bag
>
>
>> Gee, Gary, until a few days ago, I thought a MSD was a Marine Sanitation
>> Device.
>>
>> Fin.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Gary Worobec<mailto:gtw5@earthlink.net<mailto:gtw5@earthlink.net>>
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org<mailto:gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org<mailto:gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org%3Cmailto:gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>>
>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 12:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Cats out of the bag
>>
>>
>> Miguel is referring to the Atomic 1 EFI system by MSD
>>
>> http://www.msdignition.com/products/atomic/<http://www.msdignition.com/products/atomic/<http://www.msdignition.com/products/atomic/%3Chttp://www.msdignition.com/products/atomic/>>.
>> This is basically a plug and
>> play TBI system for any V8. The nice thing about it is that all of the
>> external sensors are mostly contained in the throttle body housing
>> eliminating the need for lots of extraneous wiring. It's a very clean
>> installation. You program it by a hand held device and you basically
>> punch
>> in your parameters. No EPROMS to burn. You can;t get as detailed with
>> your
>> engine setup as you can with the EBL but then again you might not want
>> to.
>> Sounds like Miguelito has it dialed in. Nice to do a drag race between
>> the
>> Howell with the EBL and the Atomic to see who wins. I'll race my 23 with
>> the
>> Howell/EBL against Fin Bevens 26 with the Atomic.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Gary and Joanne Worobec
>> 1973 GMC Glacier
>> Anza, CA
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Skip Hartline" <skiphartline@aol.com<mailto:skiphartline@aol.com<mailto:skiphartline@aol.com%3Cmailto:skiphartline@aol.com>>>
>> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org<mailto:gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org<mailto:gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org%3Cmailto:gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>>>
>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 12:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Cats out of the bag
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just when I think I half way understand these beast something like this
>>> comes up and peeks my curiosity for something else to strain the
>> tranny,
>>> not trying to sound out of the loop but what MSD product is it that you
>>> are talking about????
>>> Skip Hartline
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Re: Cats out of the bag [message #181612 is a reply to message #181557] Fri, 24 August 2012 17:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MIGUEL MENDEZ is currently offline  MIGUEL MENDEZ   United States
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if you bring it to my shop, it will pass smog, other shops will fail it as a visual, our smog shop obly wants a clean burning tail pipe, don't care how it is done, just that it burns clean.

Now, if you decide to take it on your own to our smog shop, he will fail you, however, if i am there with you, bingo


Miguel

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Re: [GMCnet] Cats out of the bag [message #181614 is a reply to message #181585] Fri, 24 August 2012 17:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fin Beven is currently offline  Fin Beven   United States
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Miguel ....

I'm in an "off year" for smog check. I just got my stickers that will be
good until about this time next year.

Which means that I will have to get a smog test about one year from now.

Fin Beven
Pasadena, CA
1976 ex-Edgemont (getting more "ex" every day, and loving it !)

Do you have any idea how soon before the stickers run out can you get
"smoged" for the next year ?

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Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:37 AM
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>
>
> PLEASE, someone send me an email and then, you can post it anywhere you
> like, i cannot seem to do that here
> --
> Miguel
>
> 1978 Royale Pain in the %$@, side bath w/ a 403 that i love.
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Re: Cats out of the bag [message #181615 is a reply to message #181557] Fri, 24 August 2012 17:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MIGUEL MENDEZ is currently offline  MIGUEL MENDEZ   United States
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perfect, well Fin, you know where to bring it

Miguel

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Re: [GMCnet] Cats out of the bag [message #181619 is a reply to message #181612] Fri, 24 August 2012 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mickeysss is currently offline  mickeysss   United States
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Thank you my great friend mickey :-)

mickey

77 beach
disneyland


On Aug 24, 2012, at 3:27 PM, MIGUEL MENDEZ wrote:

>
>
> if you bring it to my shop, it will pass smog, other shops will fail it as a visual, our smog shop obly wants a clean burning tail pipe, don't care how it is done, just that it burns clean.
>
> Now, if you decide to take it on your own to our smog shop, he will fail you, however, if i am there with you, bingo
> --
> Miguel
>
> 1978 Royale Pain in the %$@, side bath w/ a 403 that i love.
>
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>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Cats out of the bag [message #181624 is a reply to message #181598] Fri, 24 August 2012 19:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gary Worobec wrote on Fri, 24 August 2012 13:27

Fin,
I saw it at the SEMA show a while back and went through a whole demo on it.
It looks really good. Be interested to see if you get an mpg increase.


<http://www.atomicefi.com/>

As with most fuel injection systems, most likely you will not see a noticeable improvement in MPG... unless you are replacing something that is badly out of tune. If you want a "noticeable" improvement in MPG, you'll want to try a Computer-Controlled Distributor. Granted the MPG improvement still will not pay for the upgrade... at least very soon.

Does anyone KNOW if the MSD Atomic is capable of integrating with a Computer-Controlled Distributor? I suspect not, but there are other reasons to go to fuel injection.

I like the integrated look of the MSD unit. I can see how it could "slip past" the visual inspection at DEQ. It LOOKS like a carburetor.


Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
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Re: [GMCnet] Cats out of the bag [message #181625 is a reply to message #181624] Fri, 24 August 2012 19:43 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Mike Miller wrote on Fri, 24 August 2012 17:31

I like the integrated look of the MSD unit. I can see how it could "slip past" the visual inspection at DEQ. It LOOKS like a carburetor.

Yeah, apparently it's got Miguel fooled... Wink


Mark Hickey Mesa, AZ 1978 Royale Center Kitchen
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