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SeanKidd is currently offline  SeanKidd   United States
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The backspace is about a half inch more, Lug centric
and higher weight capacity than Alcoas...great price too. will they fit???

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TWG-167-6681RP/


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Re: ION Wheels [message #181495 is a reply to message #181489] Thu, 23 August 2012 20:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SeanKidd wrote on Thu, 23 August 2012 17:59

The backspace is about a half inch more, Lug centric
and higher weight capacity than Alcoas...great price too. will they fit???

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TWG-167-6681RP/


As JimK has ION wheels (different style) on his web site, I would suspect other ION wheels would also work... as long as you have the correct lug nuts. They need to match the wheels (especially if they are not hub centered) and fit the studs.

<http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1099>

I think the easiest thing would be to call JimK. You'll get what works and I expect the price will competitive.



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Re: ION Wheels [message #181497 is a reply to message #181489] Thu, 23 August 2012 20:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SeanKidd wrote on Thu, 23 August 2012 17:59

The backspace is about a half inch more, Lug centric
and higher weight capacity than Alcoas...great price too. will they fit???

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TWG-167-6681RP/


OBTW: the exact wheels in that link have "-1.125 in. Backspace" so they would normally be "rear" dually wheels. (The picture does not match.)

You might want these they are normally "fronts": <http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TWG-167-6681FP/>


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Re: ION Wheels [message #181501 is a reply to message #181489] Thu, 23 August 2012 20:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

The backspace is about a half inch more, Lug centric
and higher weight capacity than Alcoas...great price too. will they fit???

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TWG-167-6681RP/


Don't know about the fit or backspace requirement of the GMC. Did not see a weight rating for the ION. That could be a deal breaker.


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Re: ION Wheels [message #181503 is a reply to message #181489] Thu, 23 August 2012 20:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SeanKidd;

RE: The ION Wheels

The Center Hub Bore Is ~~> 5.125 Inches ~
And
The GMC Center Hub Bore Is ~~> 4.567 Inches ~
BUT
They Are 'LUG CENTRIC '
AND
Use Only 225/75R/16E Tires With Them ~

~ Joe ~


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Re: ION Wheels [message #181505 is a reply to message #181497] Thu, 23 August 2012 20:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for that, I lost my link to the Ion website with the specifications, I grabbed the first reference to post.

Herer are the specs:
http://www.thewheelgroup.com/store/catalog/product/view/id/67838/

Details

ION [167] 16x6 POLISHED 8X165.1 130.8mm

Part # 167-6681FP
Brand ION
Style Number 167
Diameter 16"
Width 6.00"
PCD 8X165.1
Offset Number +102
Hub 130.80
Finish POLISHED
Load Rating 3200



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Re: ION Wheels [message #181526 is a reply to message #181505] Thu, 23 August 2012 21:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just put a set of new Ion wheels on our new car. Love them. I suspect the wheels shown will be of the same quality as our's. Check with Jim K for the right ones for your GMC.
dan


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Re: [GMCnet] ION Wheels [message #181533 is a reply to message #181503] Thu, 23 August 2012 22:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Joe,

These ARE lug centered wheels, Mate!

Brand ION Alloy Wheels
Manufacturer's Part Number 167-6681FP
Part Type Wheels
Product Line ION Alloy Series 167 Polished Wheels
Summit Racing Part Number TWG-167-6681FP

Wheel Diameter 16 in.
Wheel Width (in) 6.000 in.
Wheel Material Aluminum
Primary Wheel Color Polished
Wheel Finish Polished
Manufacturers Wheel Series ION Alloy 167 Series
Backspacing (in) 7.516 in.
Offset +102.00mm
Wheel Construction 1-piece
Beadlock Functional No
Beadlock Included No
Lug Nut Seat Style Conical seat - 60 degree
Hub Centric No
Center Bore Diameter (in) 5.125 in.
Center Bore Diameter (mm) 130.18mm
Center Cap Included Yes
Valve Stems Included No
Quantity Sold individually.
Notes Rear wheel in dually applications.
Wheel Bolt Pattern 8 x 6 1/2 in.

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: J A Holland

SeanKidd;

RE: The ION Wheels

The Center Hub Bore Is ~~> 5.125 Inches ~
And
The GMC Center Hub Bore Is ~~> 4.567 Inches ~

You Must Have 'LUG CENTEIC WHEELS Fot That
Large Center Hub Bore ~

~ Joe ~


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Re: [GMCnet] ION Wheels [message #181541 is a reply to message #181533] Fri, 24 August 2012 00:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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By the time you add for 8 lug nuts with Chinese chrome an Chinese center
cap, you'll be no better than our NON CENTERED American wheel with Chinese
chrome and center caps.
At least our wheels are made here in USA
The Chinese chrome rust so fast and they do not warrenty them or the lug
nuts.


On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>wrote:

> Joe,
>
> These ARE lug centered wheels, Mate!
>
> Brand ION Alloy Wheels
> Manufacturer's Part Number 167-6681FP
> Part Type Wheels
> Product Line ION Alloy Series 167 Polished Wheels
> Summit Racing Part Number TWG-167-6681FP
>
> Wheel Diameter 16 in.
> Wheel Width (in) 6.000 in.
> Wheel Material Aluminum
> Primary Wheel Color Polished
> Wheel Finish Polished
> Manufacturers Wheel Series ION Alloy 167 Series
> Backspacing (in) 7.516 in.
> Offset +102.00mm
> Wheel Construction 1-piece
> Beadlock Functional No
> Beadlock Included No
> Lug Nut Seat Style Conical seat - 60 degree
> Hub Centric No
> Center Bore Diameter (in) 5.125 in.
> Center Bore Diameter (mm) 130.18mm
> Center Cap Included Yes
> Valve Stems Included No
> Quantity Sold individually.
> Notes Rear wheel in dually applications.
> Wheel Bolt Pattern 8 x 6 1/2 in.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: J A Holland
>
> SeanKidd;
>
> RE: The ION Wheels
>
> The Center Hub Bore Is ~~> 5.125 Inches ~
> And
> The GMC Center Hub Bore Is ~~> 4.567 Inches ~
>
> You Must Have 'LUG CENTEIC WHEELS Fot That
> Large Center Hub Bore ~
>
> ~ Joe ~
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] ION Wheels [message #181551 is a reply to message #181533] Fri, 24 August 2012 06:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sort of boggles my mind that you see all those vehicles on the road, all having seemingly different rims but when it comes down to wanting to find something unique to hold up our GMC that there are very few options!  What gives...
 
The reality seems that the "hub center" idea is not only on heavy lift vehicles but even in those ranks, they swap out and put lug center rims on when they want something different.  I purchased a pair of 19.5" Accuride rims for the front of the Duramax Diesel coach we're finally about to deliver, the rim was actually a lug center rim!  It was nothing but heavy lift!
 
I'm not saying that it's OK to use lug center rims on the GMC  but with so few options if you want something spiffy, it is about the only option to try it.  When we first started lacing up Eagle rims, the option was a lug center model, I put them onto a coach and drove the coach myself from Orlando to Bakersfield non stop.  Had a set of Nexen tires (cheaper "off shore" manufacture).  I checked the lug torque when I got there-- had a great smooth ride with them getting trued and static balanced and no lug nuts loosened up.  I know because I checked!  I get my Eagle rims from Jim K. trying to help him sell his pile, the ones he has are pretty much hub and lug center.  I guess it's the best we can do but if you really have your heart set on some wild rim I would say go for it, be sure the shoulder lug nut fits well, torque them properly and check them often.  Not saying don't use Eagles because Jim K. has put a pile of time and money into securing
the proper Eagle rim for us but if you just have to step out (and you know who you are) go for it man!  I think the world is going "lug center"!
 
Jim Bounds
----------------------


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From: Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
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Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] ION Wheels

Joe,

These ARE lug centered wheels, Mate!

Brand  ION Alloy Wheels
Manufacturer's Part Number  167-6681FP
Part Type  Wheels
Product Line  ION Alloy Series 167 Polished Wheels
Summit Racing Part Number  TWG-167-6681FP

Wheel Diameter  16 in.
Wheel Width (in)  6.000 in.
Wheel Material  Aluminum
Primary Wheel Color  Polished
Wheel Finish  Polished
Manufacturers Wheel Series  ION Alloy 167 Series
Backspacing (in)  7.516 in.
Offset  +102.00mm
Wheel Construction  1-piece
Beadlock Functional  No
Beadlock Included  No
Lug Nut Seat Style  Conical seat - 60 degree
Hub Centric  No
Center Bore Diameter (in)  5.125 in.
Center Bore Diameter (mm)  130.18mm
Center Cap Included  Yes
Valve Stems Included  No
Quantity  Sold individually.
Notes  Rear wheel in dually applications.
Wheel Bolt Pattern  8 x 6 1/2 in.
 
Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: J A Holland

SeanKidd;

RE: The ION Wheels

The Center Hub Bore Is ~~> 5.125 Inches ~
And
The GMC Center Hub Bore Is ~~> 4.567 Inches ~

You Must Have 'LUG CENTEIC WHEELS Fot That
Large Center Hub Bore ~

~ Joe ~


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Re: [GMCnet] ION Wheels [message #181575 is a reply to message #181551] Fri, 24 August 2012 12:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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From What I can find the GMC wheel has a 5" offset.
http://www.bdub.net/publications/1974_GMC_Motorhome/1974_GMC_Motorhome_Offerings04.html
page 5&6 last sentence..


Jim Bounds wrote on Fri, 24 August 2012 07:15

Sort of boggles my mind that you see all those vehicles on the road, all having seemingly different rims but when it comes down to wanting to find something unique to hold up our GMC that there are very few options!  What gives...
 
The reality seems that the "hub center" idea is not only on heavy lift vehicles but even in those ranks, they swap out and put lug center rims on when they want something different.  I purchased a pair of 19.5" Accuride rims for the front of the Duramax Diesel coach we're finally about to deliver, the rim was actually a lug center rim!  It was nothing but heavy lift!
 
I'm not saying that it's OK to use lug center rims on the GMC  but with so few options if you want something spiffy, it is about the only option to try it.  When we first started lacing up Eagle rims, the option was a lug center model, I put them onto a coach and drove the coach myself from Orlando to Bakersfield non stop.  Had a set of Nexen tires (cheaper "off shore" manufacture).  I checked the lug torque when I got there-- had a great smooth ride with them getting trued and static balanced and no lug nuts loosened up.  I know because I checked!  I get my Eagle rims from Jim K. trying to help him sell his pile, the ones he has are pretty much hub and lug center.  I guess it's the best we can do but if you really have your heart set on some wild rim I would say go for it, be sure the shoulder lug nut fits well, torque them properly and check them often.  Not saying don't use Eagles because Jim K. has put a pile of time and money into securing
the proper Eagle rim for us but if you just have to step out (and you know who you are) go for it man!  I think the world is going "lug center"!
 
Jim Bounds
----------------------


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From: Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] ION Wheels

Joe,

These ARE lug centered wheels, Mate!

Brand  ION Alloy Wheels
Manufacturer's Part Number  167-6681FP
Part Type  Wheels
Product Line  ION Alloy Series 167 Polished Wheels
Summit Racing Part Number  TWG-167-6681FP

Wheel Diameter  16 in.
Wheel Width (in)  6.000 in.
Wheel Material  Aluminum
Primary Wheel Color  Polished
Wheel Finish  Polished
Manufacturers Wheel Series  ION Alloy 167 Series
Backspacing (in)  7.516 in.
Offset  +102.00mm
Wheel Construction  1-piece
Beadlock Functional  No
Beadlock Included  No
Lug Nut Seat Style  Conical seat - 60 degree
Hub Centric  No
Center Bore Diameter (in)  5.125 in.
Center Bore Diameter (mm)  130.18mm
Center Cap Included  Yes
Valve Stems Included  No
Quantity  Sold individually.
Notes  Rear wheel in dually applications.
Wheel Bolt Pattern  8 x 6 1/2 in.
 
Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: J A Holland

SeanKidd;

RE: The ION Wheels

The Center Hub Bore Is ~~> 5.125 Inches ~
And
The GMC Center Hub Bore Is ~~> 4.567 Inches ~

You Must Have 'LUG CENTEIC WHEELS Fot That
Large Center Hub Bore ~

~ Joe ~


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Re: [GMCnet] ION Wheels [message #313233 is a reply to message #181575] Wed, 15 February 2017 09:31 Go to previous message
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Taking this old tread up again as I just bought a set of them.
Does anyone have a number on the valve stems ?
And I am not to worried of the wheels not being hub centric, I will add an adapter just to be on the safe side

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