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Wed, 18 July 2012 13:28  |
Sammy Williams
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Hi
I am thinking out loud here... In order to keep the list talking I
have a question...
"Does Jim K. or anyone else restore GMC running gear all at once?" As
in 1 ton front end, disc rears and a rear air bag install-- that sort
of thing.
I am considering purchasing a GMC--that is common knowledge, but
living where I do, I am going to have to "farm out" the work so I am
going to have
to have it all done in one sitting at another location. When I have
the GMC, ill set it up, just asking questions presently.
S. Williams
I do think out loud a lot when it comes to GMCs. lol
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| Re: [GMCnet] Thinking out loud-- a question about restorations (GMC RELATED) [message #177181 is a reply to message #177175] |
Wed, 18 July 2012 13:39  |
GeorgeRud
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Either of the Jim's do this sort of stuff all the time - the depth of your wallet would be the only limiting factor.
These coaches are getting old enough that doing this sort of restoration/resto mod approach actually is an excellent idea. I always try to break things down into safety issues ( things that would kill you like brakes, steering, fire), things that would leave you stranded at the side of the road (engine, transmission, suspension, etc.) and things that would be nice to have ( new AC unit, upgraded audio system, new paint job, etc.) and try to put my limited funds to work in that order. I like to do my own work wherever possible, so it takes free time as well, and I find it very therapeutic to work/play with my coach. If you want to go out and travel with it immediately, having everything done before you start is a nice, if expensive, idea.
Just my humble opinion!.
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Thinking out loud-- a question about restorations (GMC RELATED) [message #177184 is a reply to message #177181] |
Wed, 18 July 2012 14:04 |
hertfordnc
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I'm curious what this all would cost. Seems to me a pile of money and a lot of headache could be saved doing it all at once;
- brakes, bogies, airbags, tanks, front suspension, etc. and engine, transmission and fd as needed.
$10-15K (not counting eng/trans/fd) Is that way off?
No, the Revcon is not a candidate and my finances require the piecemeal approach, But i think this would be a great way to get into a really road-worthy coach for not that much money.
If you get a coach that has been well mantained and had a lot work it might be like painting the Golden Gate bridge.
Dave & Ellen Silva
Hertford, NC
76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff
Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021
It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Thinking out loud-- a question about restorations (GMC RELATED) [message #177189 is a reply to message #177175] |
Wed, 18 July 2012 14:43 |
habbyguy
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Financially you'd be better off finding a coach that's already had all that work done. You won't necessarily get quite the same satisfaction as doing it all yourself but you'll save a boatload of time and money. My rig's two previous owners had put about 5x my purchase price into maintenance and upgrades, much of it very recently. Even so, I'm learning that there are still a million or so things I want to do to the rig to make it better... like a new buzzbox, an inverter, a rear view camera... and who knows what I'll do with the engine ( it runs perfectly right now but I'm still looking at a new intake manifold and fuel injection systems).
Mark Hickey
Mesa, AZ
1978 Royale Center Kitchen
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| Re: [GMCnet] Thinking out loud-- a question about restorations (GMC RELATED) [message #177221 is a reply to message #177189] |
Wed, 18 July 2012 18:01 |
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| habbyguy wrote on Wed, 18 July 2012 12:43 |
Financially you'd be better off finding a coach that's already had all that work done. ...
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That is very good advice in this market... for most people. Considering the prices that most coaches are selling for, a rolling coach, that has most of the mechanical done recently (and it can be proven) is one of the best buys right now.
But if you are "fairly" young, can do at least SOME of the work yourself and plan on keeping the coach for 10, 15 or more years, it might be better to NOT pay the price for the coach listed above. Pick up a low end fixer-upper and start redoing everything. It WILL be more expensive in the short term and will probably just "even out" in the long term. But it should be worth it.... if nothing else, just because you'll always KNOW what has been done and when. (And at what quality.)
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo'
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| Re: [GMCnet] Thinking out loud-- a question about restorations (GMC RELATED) [message #177241 is a reply to message #177189] |
Wed, 18 July 2012 21:29 |
jw mills
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I'm not sure about saving a lot of money. In the past the mantra was
every GMC is a $25,000 coach - either pay $25,000 or pay $5,000 and add
$20,000.
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Jim Mills KD0NPU
Greeley, CO
1973 CanyonLands 260
TZE-063V100731(under renovation)
On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 14:43 -0500, Mark wrote:
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> Financially you'd be better off finding a coach that's already had all that work done. You won't necessarily get quite the same satisfaction as doing it all yourself but you'll save a boatload of time and money. My rig's two previous owners had put about 5x my purchase price into maintenance and upgrades, much of it very recently. Even so, I'm learning that there are still a million or so things I want to do to the rig to make it better... like a new buzzbox, an inverter, a rear view camera... and who knows what I'll do with the engine ( it runs perfectly right now but I'm still looking at a new intake manifold and fuel injection systems).
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| Re: [GMCnet] Thinking out loud-- a question about restorations (GMC RELATED) [message #177256 is a reply to message #177181] |
Thu, 19 July 2012 06:56 |
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If you're closer to them, I'd also ask the Fradys at Southland in Buford, I suspect they'd be happy to quote a 'job price' to go through a coach. I came out a bit under Ebay pricing for a roof unit, and they installed for two hour's labor.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
From: George Rudawsky <GeorgeRud@aol.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Thinking out loud-- a question about restorations (GMC RELATED)
Either of the Jim's do this sort of stuff all the time - the depth of your wallet would be the only limiting factor.
These coaches are getting old enough that doing this sort of restoration/resto mod approach actually is an excellent idea. I always try to break things down into safety issues ( things that would kill you like brakes, steering, fire), things that would leave you stranded at the side of the road (engine, transmission, suspension, etc.) and things that would be nice to have ( new AC unit, upgraded audio system, new paint job, etc.) and try to put my limited funds to work in that order. I like to do my own work wherever possible, so it takes free time as well, and I find it very therapeutic to work/play with my coach. If you want to go out and travel with it immediately, having everything done before you start is a nice, if expensive, idea.
Just my humble opinion!.
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George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Thinking out loud-- a question about restorations (GMC RELATED) [message #177257 is a reply to message #177241] |
Thu, 19 July 2012 07:02 |
Kingsley Coach
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Mr Mills, you took the words right out of my mouth except in Canada it was
$30 now or $5 now and the rest in either installments or as disaster
strikes. <VBG>
Now that the CDN dollar is at par, it could be either or both! <g>
Mike in NS
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:29 PM, J Mills <mills@bmi.net> wrote:
> I'm not sure about saving a lot of money. In the past the mantra was
> every GMC is a $25,000 coach - either pay $25,000 or pay $5,000 and add
> $20,000.
> --
> Jim Mills KD0NPU
> Greeley, CO
> 1973 CanyonLands 260
> TZE-063V100731(under renovation)
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> On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 14:43 -0500, Mark wrote:
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> > Financially you'd be better off finding a coach that's already had all
> that work done. You won't necessarily get quite the same satisfaction as
> doing it all yourself but you'll save a boatload of time and money. My
> rig's two previous owners had put about 5x my purchase price into
> maintenance and upgrades, much of it very recently. Even so, I'm learning
> that there are still a million or so things I want to do to the rig to make
> it better... like a new buzzbox, an inverter, a rear view camera... and who
> knows what I'll do with the engine ( it runs perfectly right now but I'm
> still looking at a new intake manifold and fuel injection systems).
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| Re: [GMCnet] Thinking out loud-- a question about restorations (GMC RELATED) [message #177265 is a reply to message #177175] |
Thu, 19 July 2012 08:36 |
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Sammy,
Talk to Miguel Mendez at MGMGMC in Montclair, Ca. 909-229-7508.
i was at his shop recently and two of his customers' coaches were in for service; both coaches were in very good condition and both owners want to sell but neither are advertising the coaches. Of courrse Miguel would be delighted to install any upgrades that you desire.
I'm sure that Jims B&K also have customers who would like to sell but are not actively marketing their coaches. And either can provide one stop upgrade installation.
As always talk to your friendly GMC vendor/service providers'
Going this route you get the added benefit of a third party who has worked on and will be familiar with a particular coach.
Just thinking out loud.
Gene Barrow
Lake Almanor, Ca.
1976 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Thinking out loud-- a question about restorations (GMC RELATED) [message #177330 is a reply to message #177175] |
Thu, 19 July 2012 19:40 |
JohnL455
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Have one of our approved shops looka at everything and then prioritize. I would venture to guess by TIME that all rubber parts need replacing as far as fuel, brakes, cooling, oil cooling and belts. This eliminates SOOO many breakdown possibility points. You may or may not need emough front end work to warrant the 1 ton, it may be something you want or something you need as a cost effective alternative to repairing the existing. If say you need only 2 tie rod ends and a CV boot and the rest is good, you may want to wait and direct funds elsewhere. Droping the tanks and doing barrier type lines is good insurance in my book. Also inspect all the hard lines for rot as well as far as fuel and brakes. Like George said the possiblilties are endless down to 'body off' type resto.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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