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[GMCnet] Avion Water Pump Installation [message #176594] Fri, 13 July 2012 08:40 Go to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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G'day,

Here's yesterday's handiwork:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/random-photos/p44685-avion-water-pump-installation-1.html

I could not believe just how quiet the Whisper King pump is!

I am debating installing a large filter next to the accumulator. We have a small tap on the side of the kitchen sink that has a
water filter so I'm wondering if there's anything to gain by installing a large one. When we hookup to city water it wouldn't filter
the water anyway.

Yes Gene I am aware of your mantra "never hookup to city water!" ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.



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Re: [GMCnet] Avion Water Pump Installation [message #176597 is a reply to message #176594] Fri, 13 July 2012 08:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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how do you open those drains from the outside ;>)
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/fresh-water-drain/p1911.html

gene



On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>wrote:

> G'day,
>
> Here's yesterday's handiwork:
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/random-photos/p44685-avion-water-pump-installation-1.html
>
> I could not believe just how quiet the Whisper King pump is!
>
> I am debating installing a large filter next to the accumulator. We have a
> small tap on the side of the kitchen sink that has a
> water filter so I'm wondering if there's anything to gain by installing a
> large one. When we hookup to city water it wouldn't filter
> the water anyway.
>
> Yes Gene I am aware of your mantra "never hookup to city water!" ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Avion Water Pump Installation [message #176607 is a reply to message #176597] Fri, 13 July 2012 09:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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I don't.

The only time I've drained the tank and pipes is when I store Double Trouble for the winter.

It's a pretty long process that I use to get all the water out of everywhere and I've never written it out and I don't have time at
the present moment, Helen is going to be getting on an airplane in Sydney shortly and will be here TOMORROW!

Regards,
Rob M.


-----Original Message-----
From: gene Fisher

how do you open those drains from the outside ;>)
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/fresh-water-drain/p1911.html

gene



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Re: [GMCnet] Avion Water Pump Installation [message #176625 is a reply to message #176607] Fri, 13 July 2012 13:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Helen is going to be getting on an airplane in Sydney shortly and will be here TOMORROW!

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Rob M.



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Hey Rob I'm confused I thought she would get on the plane tomorrow and get here yesterday. That darn big up and down line in the ocean always confused me!!! LOL


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Re: [GMCnet] Avion Water Pump Installation [message #176630 is a reply to message #176594] Fri, 13 July 2012 14:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob,
Getting that old diaphragm style pump out and the new in is great!
Same installation that I did for the Avion that I own and another
Avion of a friend. The 2088 pump is available at camping world at a
great price. <http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/shurflo-fresh-water-pump/20066
> The 4008 Shurflow revolution is available at a better price and I
put this one in the stretch. It is the replacement for the 2088
pump. <http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/shurflo-revolution-water-pump/49007
>


JR Wright
GMC Great Laker MHC
GMC Eastern States
GMCMHI
78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan


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Re: [GMCnet] Avion Water Pump Installation [message #176631 is a reply to message #176607] Fri, 13 July 2012 14:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gene,
The area were the pump and valves are located are very accessible from
inside the coach. Just lift the mattress and the panel where the pump
and stuff is located at and you can get right to it easily.

JR Wright
GMC Great Laker MHC
GMC Eastern States
GMCMHI
78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan

On Jul 13, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Rob Mueller wrote:

> I don't.
>
> The only time I've drained the tank and pipes is when I store Double
> Trouble for the winter.
>
> It's a pretty long process that I use to get all the water out of
> everywhere and I've never written it out and I don't have time at
> the present moment, Helen is going to be getting on an airplane in
> Sydney shortly and will be here TOMORROW!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gene Fisher
>
> how do you open those drains from the outside ;>)
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/fresh-water-drain/p1911.html
>
> gene
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Avion Water Pump Installation [message #176639 is a reply to message #176631] Fri, 13 July 2012 15:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob, Using the Vacuum apparatus from our favorite store (HF), and a drain connection, I am able to get every bit of water out of my Avion system. I connect the drain to the hot water heater, then a hose to one of the inlet ports on the vacuum device. I connect the air compressor to the other inlet port, a drain hose to the outlet port, and just turn on the air compressor. Believe me, it will suck out all of the water from the water lines. I let it run overnight and seal it back up in the morning. Protects it during the Northern Virginia winter season.

http://www.harborfreight.com/air-vacuum-pump-with-r134a-and-r12-connectors-96677.html

I removed the tin outer body, to cut down on the space needed to store it. At $15 bucks or so, try it.

Tom, MS II


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Re: [GMCnet] Avion Water Pump Installation [message #176662 is a reply to message #176630] Fri, 13 July 2012 18:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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JR,

I removed a ShurFlo like the first one you noted below. I can tell you that the Whisper King is a HELL OF A LOT quieter! It too is
on sale plus it comes with a strainer. I didn't use the one it came with because I wanted one with a larger surface area.

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/shurflo-whisper-king-demand-fresh-water-pump/10050

Note the feet on the Whisper King vs. the other pumps.

Regards,
Rob M.


-----Original Message-----
From: John Wright

Rob,
Getting that old diaphragm style pump out and the new in is great!
Same installation that I did for the Avion that I own and another
Avion of a friend. The 2088 pump is available at camping world at a
great price. <http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/shurflo-fresh-water-pump/20066
> The 4008 Shurflow revolution is available at a better price and I
put this one in the stretch. It is the replacement for the 2088
pump. <http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/shurflo-revolution-water-pump/49007
>


JR Wright


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Re: [GMCnet] Avion Water Pump Installation [message #176696 is a reply to message #176639] Sat, 14 July 2012 10:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Tom,

Your email motivated me to go to the Avion Owners Manual and read Section III - Protection from Freezing. I had read it before but
it never sunk in! What impressed me was Step 2. "The lines in your motorhome have been installed with a slope to permit gravity
draining." I wondered why they were so wonky and was going to straighten them out! Glad I never got around to it.

Looks like my involved procedure and your vacuum procedure are superfluous! Or as they say; "if all else fails READ THE
INSTRUCTIONS!" ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Phipps

Rob, Using the Vacuum apparatus from our favorite store (HF), and a drain connection, I am able to get every bit of water out of my
Avion system. I connect the drain to the hot water heater, then a hose to one of the inlet ports on the vacuum device. I connect
the air compressor to the other inlet port, a drain hose to the outlet port, and just turn on the air compressor. Believe me, it
will suck out all of the water from the water lines. I let it run overnight and seal it back up in the morning. Protects it during
the Northern Virginia winter season.

http://www.harborfreight.com/air-vacuum-pump-with-r134a-and-r12-connectors-96677.html

I removed the tin outer body, to cut down on the space needed to store it. At $15 bucks or so, try it.

Tom, MS II

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Re: [GMCnet] Avion Water Pump Installation [message #176703 is a reply to message #176696] Sat, 14 July 2012 12:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob, Interesting that they were installed with a built-in slope. Unfortunately, P.O. have rearranged things and plumbing is one of them. Don't ask about the electrical changes.
See you in Iowa.
Tom, MS II


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Re: [GMCnet] Avion Water Pump Installation [message #176754 is a reply to message #176703] Sat, 14 July 2012 21:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tom,

The guys at Avion were a clever bunch back in those days! Brag Brag! ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Phipps

Rob, Interesting that they were installed with a built-in slope. Unfortunately, P.O. have rearranged things and plumbing is one of
them. Don't ask about the electrical changes.
See you in Iowa.
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Re: [GMCnet] Avion Water Pump Installation [message #176859 is a reply to message #176662] Sun, 15 July 2012 21:10 Go to previous message
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I have had a Whisper King for about 15 years. It was great. Last year it stopped giving good pressure. I took off the pump front where there are three valves controlled by a wobble plate. The rubber had a small crack. I ordered a new part from the Internet and it was just like new and working great again. I am sure that we put many more hours on our pump that the average GMCers because of all the trips we take. We also never hook up to water. We prefer to fill out tank and use the water pump. That way we won't get flooded in case the city (or campground) water pressure is too high and breaks a connection inside the motorhome.

I agree that is is a whole lot quieter than the regular Shiurflow pump.

Emery Stora

O Jul 13, 2012, at 5:51 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:

> JR,
>
> I removed a ShurFlo like the first one you noted below. I can tell you that the Whisper King is a HELL OF A LOT quieter! It too is
> on sale plus it comes with a strainer. I didn't use the one it came with because I wanted one with a larger surface area.
>
> http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/shurflo-whisper-king-demand-fresh-water-pump/10050
>
> Note the feet on the Whisper King vs. the other pumps.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Wright
>
> Rob,
> Getting that old diaphragm style pump out and the new in is great!
> Same installation that I did for the Avion that I own and another
> Avion of a friend. The 2088 pump is available at camping world at a
> great price. <http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/shurflo-fresh-water-pump/20066
>> The 4008 Shurflow revolution is available at a better price and I
> put this one in the stretch. It is the replacement for the 2088
> pump. <http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/shurflo-revolution-water-pump/49007
>>
>
>
> JR Wright
>
>
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