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[GMCnet] Vacuum Pump for Brakes [message #175313] Mon, 02 July 2012 13:31 Go to next message
ljdavick is currently offline  ljdavick   United States
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Gene has documented a great deal about this - go here <http://gmcmotorhome.info/addens.html#jc4>

And to start a new thread simply send a new email addressed to gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org


Larry Davick
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Re: [GMCnet] Vacuum Pump for Brakes [message #175315 is a reply to message #175313] Mon, 02 July 2012 14:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ljdavick is currently offline  ljdavick   United States
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I see Jim K has two different vacuum pumps available and the bracket crafted by Bill Brown. Any preferences?

Small Pump:
<http://appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/769>

Big Pump:
<http://appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/869>

and the bracket for the do-it-yourself crowd (I think):
<http://appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/893>

I saw Gene's pictures on the photo site showing where to grab one from a Cadillac or other GM sedan, and the schematics for the control circuit, but where do you get the control circuitry? Is it built in to the vacuum pump?
<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3192-where-to-find-a-vacuum-pump.html>

I have to do this. Since my parking brake is totally inoperative if the engine dies I'll loose my brakes after a few pumps.

Larry Davick
Fremont, California
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Re: [GMCnet] Vacuum Pump for Brakes [message #175425 is a reply to message #175315] Tue, 03 July 2012 12:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ljdavick wrote on Mon, 02 July 2012 12:07

I see Jim K has two different vacuum pumps available and the bracket crafted by Bill Brown. Any preferences? ...


I think the solution the that would work "best" for most GMC'ers is the JC4. (The one you called "small" from Applied GMC: <http://appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/769> )

It is NEW and was designed for this exact propose. It also has an built in vacuum sensor/switch. The only thing better would be to mount it exactly like it was designed... vacuum line plugged DIRECTLY into the booster. (Replacing the check valve.) But due to space considerations, that would be problem on our GMC's.

I have one. To mount mine: I "rotated" the head 120 degrees and mounted it to the underside of the floor under the driver's seat. It works fine and I can tell when it is running. The electrical is easy, power, ground and accessory power.

I am not sure if pump comes with it, but be sure and get the connector. (It didn't when I got mine from JimK a few years ago... ask when ordering.) <http://appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/987>

As for the other options: it is getting very hard to find "good" junkyard pumps... the diaphram is normally bad. The "big" pump you linked to seems to be overkill.


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Re: [GMCnet] Vacuum Pump for Brakes [message #175436 is a reply to message #175425] Tue, 03 July 2012 15:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i just ordered the connector for i did not the first time when i ordered the pump thank you.

the steering column wire for the shifter is best to be pre-wired around the shifter to allow starting while rolling.

http://gmcws.org/Tech/Neutral_Start_Saftey_Switch_Issues.pdf

a rolling start is your only other chance to not join the bald eagles where i have to go in the avatar hills here in santa clarita.







On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Mike Miller wrote:

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> ljdavick wrote on Mon, 02 July 2012 12:07
>> I see Jim K has two different vacuum pumps available and the bracket crafted by Bill Brown. Any preferences? ...
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> I think the solution the that would work "best" for most GMC'ers is the JC4. (The one you called "small" from Applied GMC: <http://appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/769> )
>
> It is NEW and was designed for this exact propose. It also has an built in vacuum sensor/switch. The only thing better would be to mount it exactly like it was designed... vacuum line plugged DIRECTLY into the booster. (Replacing the check valve.) But due to space considerations, that would be problem on our GMC's.
>
> I have one. To mount mine: I "rotated" the head 120 degrees and mounted it to the underside of the floor under the driver's seat. It works fine and I can tell when it is running. The electrical is easy, power, ground and accessory power.
>
> I am not sure if pump comes with it, but be sure and get the connector. (It didn't when I got mine from JimK a few years ago... ask when ordering.) <http://appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/987>
>
> As for the other options: it is getting very hard to find "good" junkyard pumps... the diaphram is normally bad. The "big" pump you linked to seems to be overkill.
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Re: [GMCnet] Vacuum Pump for Brakes [message #175450 is a reply to message #175425] Tue, 03 July 2012 19:21 Go to previous message
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I figure if it's good enough for Buick, it's good enough for me, so I hiit the men's mall and liberated one from an early 90-s Buick TheSword.  It's located under the fender liner in front of the driver's side front wheel.  JimK doesn't have a mount for it so I'm fabricatiing one from aluminum plate, gonna hang it off the air reservoir.  Switch and check valve are built in.  Gonna feed a reservoir through a check valve from the manifold and ferom the pump, plumb the booster off the reservoir as well as the heater controls.  My brakes work as well as can be expected, and I can (tried it) lock em up with no boost - by using both feet and planting my butt in the seat.  However, I hate when the A/C fades any time I get into the throttle for more than ten seconds or so. 
 
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach

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ljdavick wrote on Mon, 02 July 2012 12:07
> I see Jim K has two different vacuum pumps available and the bracket crafted by Bill Brown. Any preferences? ...


I think the solution the that would work "best" for most GMC'ers is the JC4.  (The one you called "small" from Applied GMC: <http://appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/769> )

It is NEW and was designed for this exact propose. It also has an built in vacuum sensor/switch.  The only thing better would be to mount it exactly like it was designed... vacuum line plugged DIRECTLY into the booster.  (Replacing the check valve.) But due to space considerations, that would be problem on our GMC's. 

I have one.  To mount mine: I "rotated" the head 120 degrees and mounted it to the underside of the floor under the driver's seat.  It works fine and I can tell when it is running.  The electrical is easy, power, ground and accessory power.

I am not sure if pump comes with it, but be sure and get the connector. (It didn't when I got mine from JimK a few years ago... ask when ordering.) <http://appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/987>

As for the other options: it is getting very hard to find "good" junkyard pumps... the diaphram is normally bad.  The "big" pump you linked to seems to be overkill.
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