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Tue, 26 June 2012 22:27  |
A Hamilto
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None of the keys that are on the ring that came with the GMC will work in the door lock. Which one is supposed to work? The square GMC key, the oval GMC key, or other? I finally got around to repairing the door latch, looking forward to being able to lock the door for the first time, and no nirvana. Not sure the lock is original, so the next question would be where to get a replacement lock with a key?
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| Re: [GMCnet] Can You Get A New Door Key Based On TZE Number? [message #174718 is a reply to message #174715] |
Tue, 26 June 2012 22:32  |
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On mine, the door lock is the rounded key, along with the electric cord panel lock. The move would be, take the lock out, take it to the locksmith along with the ignition key, and ask them to rekey it to match the ignition. One key solution.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
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Subject: [GMCnet] Can You Get A New Door Key Based On TZE Number?
None of the keys that are on the ring that came with the GMC will work in the door lock. Which one is supposed to work? The square GMC key, the oval GMC key, or other? I finally got around to repairing the door latch, looking forward to being able to lock the door for the first time, and no nirvana. Not sure the lock is original, so the next question would be where to get a replacement lock with a key?
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'73 23' CanyonLands
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| Re: Can You Get A New Door Key Based On TZE Number? [message #174721 is a reply to message #174715] |
Tue, 26 June 2012 22:41 |
Craig Lechowicz
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It should be the Oval Key (what would be the door or trunk key on an older GM car, before they went to the single key). If you are fortunate like me, and have all the original locks, that key also fits the lock for the electrical cord panel, and the water fill door.
If you have the original locks (a non-trivial if, on a 30+ year old vehicle) the key numbers are listed on the original invoice for the vehicle. Most people don't have access to that. Some GM divisions maintain a service where you can get them, but I don't recall GMC doing that for vehicles much older than a few years old.
At one time, dealers were equipped to re-code lock cylinders and someone who knew what they were doing could disassemble the lock, and figure out what the proper key should be. My guess is that most dealers don't have anyone who remembers how to do that today, or if they do, charge fairly high dealership labor rates to do it. I haven't tried it, but my guess is that an old-time locksmith would be a better and cheaper way to get a key for the original lock.
Someone else on the board may have some ideas on getting replacement lock cylinders. If you don't need them all keyed alike, that would probably be the cheapest way to go.
Craig Lechowicz
'77 Kingsley, Waterford, MI
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| Re: Can You Get A New Door Key Based On TZE Number? [message #174737 is a reply to message #174715] |
Wed, 27 June 2012 07:10 |
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| ahamilto wrote on Tue, 26 June 2012 23:27 |
None of the keys that are on the ring that came with the GMC will work in the door lock. Which one is supposed to work? The square GMC key, the oval GMC key, or other? I finally got around to repairing the door latch, looking forward to being able to lock the door for the first time, and no nirvana. Not sure the lock is original, so the next question would be where to get a replacement lock with a key?
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My coach came to me with some extra locks (they used to go to Mexico). The rectangular GM key is the ignition, the oval GM key is the glove compartment. The door key is a shorter key as are the rest. Two of the keys are the same pattern of groves, but those are the fuel and water fill caps. Now do you now why my eight keys are numbered?
Your best bet is, as others have said, to remove the door lock and take it to a locksmith. If you don't find one handy, take the lock to a truck parts place and they can sell you a complete lock cylinder set for not much money. That part is a common lock used in truck door locks for years.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: Can You Get A New Door Key Based On TZE Number? [message #174746 is a reply to message #174739] |
Wed, 27 June 2012 09:18 |
tphipps
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Hidden keys are everywhere. Someone reported that He found 5 different sets while fixing up the coach. I have one hidden set, and my wife at rallies, always has a door key around her neck. Coach is difficult to enter without the proper key. Most of us cannot get through the toll windows to get inside the vehicle.
I did manage to lock my keys inside my coach, and not discover the error until 10:30 at night.
You can cut the plastic bolt heads off of the sliding window locks and knock the slider inside the coach,. Of course, then you must be small or have a small child available to enter that little window space to unlock the door. Better to have a hidden key.
Tom, MS II
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
KA4CSG
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| Re: Can You Get A New Door Key Based On TZE Number? [message #174761 is a reply to message #174746] |
Wed, 27 June 2012 12:12 |
A Hamilto
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| tphipps wrote on Wed, 27 June 2012 09:18 |
Hidden keys are everywhere. Someone reported that He found 5 different sets while fixing up the coach. I have one hidden set, and my wife at rallies, always has a door key around her neck. Coach is difficult to enter without the proper key. Most of us cannot get through the toll windows to get inside the vehicle.
I did manage to lock my keys inside my coach, and not discover the error until 10:30 at night.
You can cut the plastic bolt heads off of the sliding window locks and knock the slider inside the coach,. Of course, then you must be small or have a small child available to enter that little window space to unlock the door. Better to have a hidden key.
Tom, MS II
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The kitchen window is right next to the door. That's how I have been getting in for the past year and a half. The latch on the window had been removed so you could slide it open from the outside. Reach in and pull the inside door latch and open the door. After I got the door latch fixed, I replaced the window latch. So now, if I lock myself out, I will have to do what you said, cut the platic bolt heads off and open the kitchen window and unlock the door.
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| Re: Can You Get A New Door Key Based On TZE Number? [message #174775 is a reply to message #174761] |
Wed, 27 June 2012 13:17 |
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I'm going to have to go the locksmith route on my '78 Royale. I only got keys for the ignition and door (standard GM issue), and one for the driver's side closet in the rear (it won't open without a key - don't know if that's standard or an "upgrade", though it's annoying). The guy I bought it from had bought the coach for resale, and managed to lose all the other keys to the outside access doors.
Any suggestions on how I should proceed - just show up and have him replace all the locks, or can new keys be ordered if I have the lock "number" (assuming the cylinders even have numbers).
Mark Hickey
Mesa, AZ
1978 Royale Center Kitchen
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| Re: [GMCnet] Can You Get A New Door Key Based On TZE Number? [message #174801 is a reply to message #174719] |
Wed, 27 June 2012 18:05 |
jhbridges
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That indicates the door lock has been changed over the years. Your locksmith can make it match the key. It will be >much< cheaper if you simply remove the cylinder from the door and carry it and the key to him.
--johnny
'76 23' trandmode norris
'76 pam beach
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Can You Get A New Door Key Based On TZE Number?
Johnny Bridges wrote on Tue, 26 June 2012 22:32
> On mine, the door lock is the rounded key, along with the electric cord panel lock. The move would be, take the lock out, take it to the locksmith along with the ignition key, and ask them to rekey it to match the ignition. One key solution.
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> --johnny
> '76 23' transmode norris
> '76 palm beach
One of the keys on the ring opens that panel, but it doesn't open the door. I might see about keying the door the same as the ignition. The ring has too many keys on it anyway.
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'73 23' CanyonLands
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| Re: [GMCnet] Can You Get A New Door Key Based On TZE Number? [message #174813 is a reply to message #174746] |
Wed, 27 June 2012 18:40 |
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I feel it is very important to have a roof hatch to get out of from inside if for any reason it would be needed.
1. the right side of a bus like vehicle always goes in the ditch first.
When this happens the side and only door is blocked.
2. If you have to break in to the gmc, it is best to go through a top hatch and fix it than a window or door.
3. If for any reason you need to get out without obviously coming out the side door you have an option.
4. I you want to get in the pod, check the tv ariel, take pictures of birds, jump on someone at the door.
My questions are where to put the hatch. What opening to buy, where to get it.
what kind of ladder inside and out, if not using the rear ladder. Where to put a ladder inside.
how big to make the hatch?
what other advantages are there?
On Jun 27, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Thomas Phipps wrote:
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> Hidden keys are everywhere. Someone reported that He found 5 different sets while fixing up the coach. I have one hidden set, and my wife at rallies, always has a door key around her neck. Coach is difficult to enter without the proper key. Most of us cannot get through the toll windows to get inside the vehicle.
> I did manage to lock my keys inside my coach, and not discover the error until 10:30 at night.
> You can cut the plastic bolt heads off of the sliding window locks and knock the slider inside the coach,. Of course, then you must be small or have a small child available to enter that little window space to unlock the door. Better to have a hidden key.
> Tom, MS II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Can You Get A New Door Key Based On TZE Number? [message #174817 is a reply to message #174813] |
Wed, 27 June 2012 19:24 |
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Mickey,
Ten steps on how to get out of a GMC that has rolled over:
1) Click on this link: http://www.bdub.net/factory-manuals.html
2) Select the correct Operators Manual for your GMC
3) Download the manual
4) Open the manual and turn to the Table of Contents
5) Find the section entitled "In Case of Emergency"
6) Find the sub section entitled "Emergency Exit"
7) Turn to the correct page
8) Look at the figure entitled "Emergency Exit Pull Ring"
9) Read the paragraph entitled "Emergency Exit"
10) Follow the instructions in the previous two steps
Unless your GMC is sitting vertically on the rear window I think this procedure will work,
Regards,
Rob M.
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From: mickey's space ship shuttle
I feel it is very important to have a roof hatch to get out of from inside if for any reason it would be needed.
1. the right side of a bus like vehicle always goes in the ditch first.
When this happens the side and only door is blocked.
2. If you have to break in to the gmc, it is best to go through a top hatch and fix it than a window or door.
3. If for any reason you need to get out without obviously coming out the side door you have an option.
4. I you want to get in the pod, check the tv ariel, take pictures of birds, jump on someone at the door.
My questions are where to put the hatch. What opening to buy, where to get it.
what kind of ladder inside and out, if not using the rear ladder. Where to put a ladder inside.
how big to make the hatch?
what other advantages are there?
On Jun 27, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Thomas Phipps wrote:
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> Hidden keys are everywhere. Someone reported that He found 5 different sets while fixing up the coach. I have one hidden set,
and my wife at rallies, always has a door key around her neck. Coach is difficult to enter without the proper key. Most of us
cannot get through the toll windows to get inside the vehicle.
> I did manage to lock my keys inside my coach, and not discover the error until 10:30 at night.
> You can cut the plastic bolt heads off of the sliding window locks and knock the slider inside the coach,. Of course, then you
must be small or have a small child available to enter that little window space to unlock the door. Better to have a hidden key.
> Tom, MS II
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Regards,
Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
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'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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