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| [GMCnet] Fwd: Digi Panel Group Buy [message #173413] |
Fri, 15 June 2012 16:58  |
emerystora
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> On Jun 15, 2012, at 3:22 PM, D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> Good afternoon, Emery.
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>> So which tranny temp should concern me, in or out?
>> I suspect out, but I'm pretty green on this stuff.
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> Yes, out is going to show you the hottest temps but that really isn't going to let you know if the transmission cooler is working well. If you monitor the transmission pan temperature it will give a good indication of how well your transmission is being cooled. My tranny temp sensor is in the pan, which is probably the most accurate, most meaningful, and least subject to "spikes". What I've seen over the past year (at highway speed):
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> Towing: Temp about 60 degrees over air temp on level roads (e.g. air temp of 90 means trans temp of 150). On grades where the engine is working pretty hard the trans temp will climb to about 75 degrees over air (e.g. air temp of 90 means trans temp of 165). On long hard climbs with the engine at WOT in 2nd gear, the trans temp will steadily climb well above these numbers. The highest trans temp I've seen so far was 195 degrees at the crest of a 5 mile long, 6% grade with 95 degree temps. Once you hit the 190 level you might either start going downhill soon to take the load off the engine/ transmission or pull over to let things cool down. Heat is a major destroyer of your transmission.
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>> I guess I could double up Oil and Tranny temps with the
>> switch and do the same with chassis and house battery
>> monitoring.
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> You are going to find that the oil temperature closely follows the coolant temperature. I once installed an oil temperature monitor right at the outlet of the engine where it went into the oil hose going to the oil cooler. After a short time I removed it because it wasn't telling me anything that the water temperature gauge wasn't already doing.
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>> Now, I'm pondering buying a PAIR of 3-slot monitors to
>> monitor six parameters continuously without having to
>> switch functions around, but that's rather costly.
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> When you have too many gauges you are spending all your time monitoring them. Sometimes I wonder how I managed to drive my GMC all those years with just the original stock gauges! As you pointed out, sometimes one can just be a little but too anal. :) :) The thing is to have just the few gauges you really need BUT know how to interpret what they are telling you.
> Emery Stora
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: Digi Panel Group Buy [message #173438 is a reply to message #173413] |
Fri, 15 June 2012 20:27  |
Len Novak
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Gents,
I have an EQUUS Multi function Computer Gauge (6272), well actually two of
them. Are they similar in function to the digi panel?
Len and Pat
1978 GMC Kingsley
The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
Fallbrook, CA new email: B52Rule@Roadrunner.Com
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
www.bdub.net/novak/
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Emery Stora
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:59 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: [GMCnet] Fwd: Digi Panel Group Buy
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> On Jun 15, 2012, at 3:22 PM, D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>
wrote:
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>> Good afternoon, Emery.
>>
>> So which tranny temp should concern me, in or out?
>> I suspect out, but I'm pretty green on this stuff.
>>
>>
>
> Yes, out is going to show you the hottest temps but that really isn't
going to let you know if the transmission cooler is working well. If you
monitor the transmission pan temperature it will give a good indication of
how well your transmission is being cooled. My tranny temp sensor is in the
pan, which is probably the most accurate, most meaningful, and least subject
to "spikes". What I've seen over the past year (at highway speed):
>
> Towing: Temp about 60 degrees over air temp on level roads (e.g. air temp
of 90 means trans temp of 150). On grades where the engine is working pretty
hard the trans temp will climb to about 75 degrees over air (e.g. air temp
of 90 means trans temp of 165). On long hard climbs with the engine at WOT
in 2nd gear, the trans temp will steadily climb well above these numbers.
The highest trans temp I've seen so far was 195 degrees at the crest of a 5
mile long, 6% grade with 95 degree temps. Once you hit the 190 level you
might either start going downhill soon to take the load off the engine/
transmission or pull over to let things cool down. Heat is a major
destroyer of your transmission.
>>
>> I guess I could double up Oil and Tranny temps with the
>> switch and do the same with chassis and house battery
>> monitoring.
>
> You are going to find that the oil temperature closely follows the coolant
temperature. I once installed an oil temperature monitor right at the outlet
of the engine where it went into the oil hose going to the oil cooler. After
a short time I removed it because it wasn't telling me anything that the
water temperature gauge wasn't already doing.
>>
>> Now, I'm pondering buying a PAIR of 3-slot monitors to
>> monitor six parameters continuously without having to
>> switch functions around, but that's rather costly.
>
> When you have too many gauges you are spending all your time monitoring
them. Sometimes I wonder how I managed to drive my GMC all those years with
just the original stock gauges! As you pointed out, sometimes one can
just be a little but too anal. :) :) The thing is to have just the few
gauges you really need BUT know how to interpret what they are telling you.
> Emery Stora
>>
>
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http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: Digi Panel Group Buy [message #173471 is a reply to message #173445] |
Sat, 16 June 2012 05:10 |
Mr ERFisher
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and here are links to the digipanel on the gmc
http://www.gmcmotorhome.info/chassis.html#digi
the advantages to me are:
- I don't want to try and interpret meter readings while driving.
- easy Marking for quick looks
- an alarm to wake up, and show problems
- lighted readings
- ease of mounting (no new holes, brackets, etc)
- no clutter of dash
- easy modifications for fuel pressure
- use existing sensors (sensor available for press)
- proven reliability
- low cost,
- JimK has all the parts
JWID (on my 2;>)
gene
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Robert Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>wrote:
> Len,
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> Here's a link to the Digi Panel website so you can compare the units.
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> http://www.digi-panel.com/
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> Regards,
> Rob M.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Len Novak
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> Gents,
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> I have an EQUUS Multi function Computer Gauge (6272), well actually two of
> them. Are they similar in function to the digi panel?
>
> Len
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: Digi Panel Group Buy [message #173499 is a reply to message #173495] |
Sat, 16 June 2012 08:51 |
k2gkk
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Personally, I want the "systems" SAFETY device
just off my line of vision down the road! It
would be sorta like HUD (Heads Up Display) in
aircraft. I don't want to have to look
"off axis" by 30-45 degrees to get the info.
Also, I imagine the case can easily be painted
to match the color of your dash and reduce the
"ugly factor" considerably.
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> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 06:41:19 -0700
> From: mr.erfisher@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: Digi Panel Group Buy
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> I guess you FORGOT to read the link, and see the JimB mount
> *http://tinyurl.com/7gdpxnq
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> which is flush, matching, and much better looking than 25 round, square,
> meter panels, etc ;>)
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> got to read the literature
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> gene
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> > You forgot to mention that they are UGLY when mounted on the dash.
> > --
> > Ken Burton - N9KB
> > 76 Palm Beach
> > Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: Digi Panel Group Buy [message #173520 is a reply to message #173475] |
Sat, 16 June 2012 12:27 |
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and for those of us that are Ham radio operators, they are
VERY susceptible to RF interference (they alarm when you
transmit on any band at any power level).
On 6/16/2012 4:55 AM, Ken Burton wrote:
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> You forgot to mention that they are UGLY when mounted on the dash.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: Digi Panel Group Buy [message #173522 is a reply to message #173481] |
Sat, 16 June 2012 12:29 |
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I THINK I have see an installation where someone enlarged
the hole where the radio goes (making it essentially a din
and a half) opening and then mounting it above the DIN size
radio they installed.
On 6/16/2012 5:43 AM, Robert Mueller wrote:
> Ken,
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> I don't think they're ugly, remember what Mickey's buddy Buckminster said;
> "form follows function."
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> I would say they're not aesthetically pleasing sitting on top of the dash.
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> Having said that has anyone "stuck" one IN the dash? Obviously you would
> have to make a new bezel.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: Digi Panel Group Buy [message #173542 is a reply to message #173520] |
Sat, 16 June 2012 15:28 |
jhbridges
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That's fairly simple to fix. Time consuming, but simple.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
From: Terry Taylor <n6mon@pacbell.net>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: Digi Panel Group Buy
and for those of us that are Ham radio operators, they are
VERY susceptible to RF interference (they alarm when you
transmit on any band at any power level).
On 6/16/2012 4:55 AM, Ken Burton wrote:
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> You forgot to mention that they are UGLY when mounted on the dash.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: Digi Panel Group Buy [message #173543 is a reply to message #173523] |
Sat, 16 June 2012 15:31 |
jhbridges
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Big sack of RF beads, some .01 caps and tinfoil and glue, healed.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 [palm beach
From: D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: Digi Panel Group Buy
KRAP!
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~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
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> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 10:27:40 -0700
> From: n6mon@pacbell.net
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: Digi Panel Group Buy
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> and for those of us that are Ham radio operators, they are
> VERY susceptible to RF interference (they alarm when you
> transmit on any band at any power level).
>
>
> On 6/16/2012 4:55 AM, Ken Burton wrote:
> >
> > You forgot to mention that they are UGLY when mounted on the dash.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: Digi Panel Group Buy [message #173545 is a reply to message #173523] |
Sat, 16 June 2012 16:24 |
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Didn't mean to ruin your day, Mac,,,,,,,
On Jun 16, 2012, at 10:52, D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com> wrote:
> KRAP
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