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| Re: Only For Folks Who Do NOT Want Real Gauges [message #172966 is a reply to message #172955] |
Mon, 11 June 2012 13:49   |
hertfordnc
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How many people have a transmission temp gauge?
And what is normal operating temp for a GMC at highway speed, not heavily loaded or towing?
A trans pemp gauge is a no brainer. It pretty much has to get hot before it fails, knowing when it gets hot could make the difference between letting it cool down or having a pan full of shrapnel
But what do i know, i have a Revcon.
Dave & Ellen Silva
Hertford, NC
76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff
Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021
It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Only For Folks Who Do NOT Want Real Gauges [message #172969 is a reply to message #172966] |
Mon, 11 June 2012 13:54 |
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My beloved PO installed one along with the RAGUSA transmission pan. In normal driving I think it’s at about 125 degrees.
Larry Davick
The Mystery Machine
1976(ish) Palm Beach
Fremont, CA
On Jun 11, 2012, at 11:49 AM, dave silva wrote:
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> How many people have a transmission temp gauge?
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> And what is normal operating temp for a GMC at highway speed, not heavily loaded or towing?
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> A trans pemp gauge is a no brainer. It pretty much has to get hot before it fails, knowing when it gets hot could make the difference between letting it cool down or having a pan full of shrapnel
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> But what do i know, i have Revcon.
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> Dave & Ellen Silva
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> 1972 Revcon Olds 455, toro drive train. All Stock
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| Re: Only For Folks Who Do NOT Want Real Gauges [message #172977 is a reply to message #172955] |
Mon, 11 June 2012 14:33 |
armandminnie
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About 2 years ago, before the aluminum radiator and air deflectors, I had only the factory temp pickup and gauge. It never showed any problems and barely moved and was always below the half-way mark. I converted to a mechanical gauge that I calibrated and it showed that my coolant got as hot as 240 degrees when crossing the desert. As Dan said, get a real gauge and keep an eye on it. Now if I had only done that with my tranny I could have saved a lot of trouble and money.
Armand Minnie
Marana, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Only For Folks Who Do NOT Want Real Gauges [message #173015 is a reply to message #172966] |
Mon, 11 June 2012 20:49 |
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Dave,
When I bought Double Trouble it had a Digi Panel in it already.
I was at Harbor Freight and spotted their cheap ($20) gages and bought a
full compliment.
Tach
Engine Vacuum
Oil Pressure
Oil Temperature x 2 (one for the engine one for the transmission
Water Temp
Volts
I find that the oil pressure, transmission temp, and water temp in the Digi
Panel and the HF gage run in close parallel.
All readings at speed:
Oil pressure runs @ 40-50 psi
Water temp runs at 180°F (thermostat) or below on cold days (aluminum
radiator)
Trans temp runs at 165° - 175° - external cooler in addition to aluminum
radiator
Engine vacuum - 20 or so at idle and depends how far my foot is in the carb
Volts - 13 - 14
Engine oil temp not hooked up yet - on my TTD list. Speaking of which where
should I put the sensor:
A) in the line that leaves the engine going to the radiator oil cooler?
B) in the line that returns to the engine from the radiator oil cooler?
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: dave silva
How many people have a transmission temp gauge?
And what is normal operating temp for a GMC at highway speed, not heavily
loaded or towing?
A trans pemp gauge is a no brainer. It pretty much has to get hot before it
fails, knowing when it gets hot could make the difference between letting it
cool down or having a pan full of shrapnel
But what do i know, i have Revcon.
--
Dave
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Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Only For Folks Who Do NOT Want Real Gauges [message #173037 is a reply to message #173015] |
Mon, 11 June 2012 23:31 |
midlf
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| Robert Mueller wrote on Mon, 11 June 2012 20:49 |
Engine oil temp not hooked up yet - on my TTD list. Speaking of which where
should I put the sensor:
A) in the line that leaves the engine going to the radiator oil cooler?
B) in the line that returns to the engine from the radiator oil cooler?
Regards,
Rob M.
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You want to know the temp of the oil in the pan. So therefore "A" as that point has the oil that has just been pumped from the pan.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Only For Folks Who Do NOT Want Real Gauges [message #173060 is a reply to message #173055] |
Tue, 12 June 2012 07:13 |
hertfordnc
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| Robert Mueller wrote on Tue, 12 June 2012 06:30 |
Now that I think of it B) is useless as it would mask hi oil temp problems!
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Really? I thought the conventional wisdom was to monitor the temp going in to the trans becasue that tells you if the cooling is effective?
Dave & Ellen Silva
Hertford, NC
76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff
Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021
It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Only For Folks Who Do NOT Want Real Gauges [message #173251 is a reply to message #173067] |
Wed, 13 June 2012 22:38 |
midlf
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| WD0AFQ wrote on Tue, 12 June 2012 09:36 |
I would like to clean the radiator cooler and use it too, but I am scared of it right now. Dan
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Clean the rad as best you can. Install an inline transmission filter on the return line to the trans. The return line to the trans dumps into the trans lube system so you do want clean oil there and an inline filter will do that.
Unlike the engine oil cooler where the outlet from the cooler goes to the oil filer and then to passages in the engine. With the engine oil cooler getting it clean is critical as the oil can bypass the filter if the filter is clogged or when the oil is cold.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Only For Folks Who Do NOT Want Real Gauges [message #173336 is a reply to message #173285] |
Thu, 14 June 2012 18:20 |
stick miller
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There is a parallel conversation taking place on another forum. One of the members has called and gotten an offer for a group purchase:
"I called Digl-Panel (599-665-1546) and asked about a discount for our group (Wanderlodge Owner's Group). They will discount $40 per unit on orders of 5 or more."
They are talking about a unit for various diesel engines, but it might be worth a call if there is sufficient interest.
Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
Americus, GA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Only For Folks Who Do NOT Want Real Gauges [message #173371 is a reply to message #173354] |
Fri, 15 June 2012 07:51 |
stick miller
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I just put the information out there. If someone is interested in working on a group purchase give them a call and see what can be worked out.
Obviously, I don't need one.
I'm going to edit a bit here. I think what the other guys are doing is stirring interest, and possibly keeping a list, but they've spoken with the owner of the company to secure the discount. Purchases will be made directly to the company.
By the way, I have a feeling the diesel version might be more expensive to start with. There is a good possibility that the discount on a model to fit the GMC might not be as great.
I just don't know.
Group purchase is probably something we should always consider, especially for things like this. Our vendors are good about offering specials but these group purchases can also be good. Usually, there is work to be done and some paperwork involved, but it could be worth it.
Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
Americus, GA
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