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USAussie
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G'day,
Harbor Freight is having a sidewalk sale this weekend it starts at 8am but
if you're an Inside Track member you can get in at 7am.
Here's a sample of what's available:
GMC Tool - $16.99
Infrared Laser Thermometer - $26.99
1/2" Electric Impact Wrench - $38.99
3 Ton Jack Stands - $14.99
3 Ton Rapid Lift Floor Jack - $69.99
Regards,
Rob M.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Harbor Freight Sale [message #172602 is a reply to message #172595] |
Fri, 08 June 2012 15:28  |
captjack
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Jack stands are rated as a pair, e.g. 3 tons is 1.5 tons each. They have 6 tons jack stands as well which I've been using for some time. I also have their 4 ton floor jack which works well. I had a HG 2 1/2 ton floor jack give way on me. Made a bit of mess, but no personal damage. It was either the jack or perhaps I placed it incorrectly under the bogie. Anyway, it's been retired.
Jack Christensen - K6ROW,
'76 Glenbrook/Clasco - "The Silver Bullet",
Sebastopol, CA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Harbor Freight Sale [message #172677 is a reply to message #172602] |
Sat, 09 June 2012 00:07 |
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USAussie
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Jack,
When I read your email I said to myself; "HUH?"
I went to Harbor Freight and searched for JACK STANDS. I clicked on the
photo of the 3 ton and found the following spec:
Description
The combined weight of these two heavy-duty jack stands is only 15 lbs, yet
they can support and hold most cars and trucks safely off the ground. These
jack stands feature an adjustable height from 11-3/4" to a maximum of
16-3/4" to easily position under your vehicle for repair work or storage.
Portable and tough, these heavy duty jack stands are the perfect addition to
any garage or auto shop.
•Perfect for repair work or storage
•Welded steel base for strength
•Self locking ratchet handle
Capacity: 6000 lb.
Height range: 11-3/4" to 16-3/4"
Base dimensions: 8" x 7-1/2"
Shipping Weight: 15.08 lb.
CAPACITY 6000 lb. HOLY CRAP! I'VE BEEN PIMPING THEIR 3 TON JACK STANDS
FIGURING THAT THEY WERE GOOD FOR THREE TONS EACH!
Talk about making a dumb mistake that could have grave consequences!
I checked the Owners manual for the later models 77 - 78 and found the
following:
26 Foot GMC
Curb weight front: 3,750 lb Curb weight rear is 6,820 lb
Front cargo & pass. load: 750 lb Rear cargo & pass load: 1,280 lb
Total: 4,500 lb Total
8,000 lb
Curb weight is the maximum weight of the vehicle without driver, passenger
or cargo, but does include fuel and coolant.
23 Foot GMC
Curb weight front: 3,700 lb Curb weight rear is 5,950 lb
Front cargo & pass. load: 500 lb Rear cargo & pass load: 1,550 lb
Total: 4,200 lb Total
7,500 lb
Curb weight is the maximum weight of the vehicle without driver, passenger
or cargo, but does include fuel and coolant.
As you can see the 3 ton stands can safely handle the front of both length
vehicles.
However, if you use the 3 ton jack stands under the rear bogies of a 23 ft
GMC you will overload them up to 750 lbs each and under a 26 ft GMC up to
1000 lb each. In fact from the data I've seen collected at weigh in sessions
it could even be more!
DO NOT USE 3 TON JACK STANDS TO SUPPORT THE REAR OF THE GMC!
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Christensen
Jack stands are rated as a pair, e.g. 3 tons is 1.5 tons each. They have 6
tons jack stands as well which I've been using for some time. I also have
their 4 ton floor jack which works well. I had a HG 2 1/2 ton floor jack
give way on me. Made a bit of mess, but no personal damage. It was either
the jack or perhaps I placed it incorrectly under the bogie. Anyway, it's
been retired.
--
Jack
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Rob M. (USAussie)
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Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Harbor Freight Sale [message #172698 is a reply to message #172677] |
Sat, 09 June 2012 10:55 |
petemosss
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Location: Jacksonville, Florida
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I have no main gas tank after the POS HF 6 ton stand collapsed under rear bogie area last year. Stacks of 2x12x12's for me thank you. I live to tell ya a coach is awful hard to get up when its sitting on its frame. (All wheels were off of it when it fell)
Pete
74 Canyon Lands 26' "Emery"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Harbor Freight Sale [message #172772 is a reply to message #172501] |
Sun, 10 June 2012 07:00 |
mschultz
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Location: Maple City, MI
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Regarding jacking. Never go under a GMC without for sure support! I always use wood blocking under the jack points between the boogies after raising the frame with the 3 ton jack with timber under tee in frame just forward of boogies, speading the weight over two feet of the frame. As to the front, two 6 ton jack stands preferably with floor jack or third jack stand under front cross member. Do not die under your GMC. There are better ways to go. One stack of two by blocks on a solid base, such as concrete will support the whole GMC. This also pretains to going under with the wheels on. If the rear air bag system, new or old were to let go, deflate or blow while you are under the frame, you would be crushed. Mechanics at all levels of skill should heed this warning. And if you are a novice, especially. The whole point of GMC ownership is to drive them, not die under them.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Harbor Freight Sale [message #172819 is a reply to message #172677] |
Sun, 10 June 2012 15:45 |
k2gkk
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EACH of my Torin Big Red jackstands from
Northern Tool has "3 TON" on its label.
Mine are the "double locking" variety that
have a solid pin that passes through the
frame and locks (supposedly) the riser
from dropping because it acts on the
teeth of that riser.
I know there is a difference between a
metric "tonne" and a US/English "ton."
The metric tonne is 1000 kg, which is
close to 2200 pounds or about 10% more
actual weight that "our" ton.
Is 6,000 lbs not equal to 3 tons as I
learned it in elementary school some
65 years ago??
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> From: robmueller@iinet.net.au
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 15:07:49 +1000
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Harbor Freight Sale
>
> Jack,
>
> When I read your email I said to myself; "HUH?"
>
> I went to Harbor Freight and searched for JACK STANDS. I clicked on the
> photo of the 3 ton and found the following spec:
>
> Description
>
> The combined weight of these two heavy-duty jack stands is only 15 lbs, yet
> they can support and hold most cars and trucks safely off the ground. These
> jack stands feature an adjustable height from 11-3/4" to a maximum of
> 16-3/4" to easily position under your vehicle for repair work or storage.
> Portable and tough, these heavy duty jack stands are the perfect addition to
> any garage or auto shop.
>
> •Perfect for repair work or storage
> •Welded steel base for strength
> •Self locking ratchet handle
>
> Capacity: 6000 lb.
>
> Height range: 11-3/4" to 16-3/4"
>
> Base dimensions: 8" x 7-1/2"
>
> Shipping Weight: 15.08 lb.
>
> CAPACITY 6000 lb. HOLY CRAP! I'VE BEEN PIMPING THEIR 3 TON JACK STANDS
> FIGURING THAT THEY WERE GOOD FOR THREE TONS EACH!
>
> Talk about making a dumb mistake that could have grave consequences!
>
> I checked the Owners manual for the later models 77 - 78 and found the
> following:
>
> 26 Foot GMC
>
> Curb weight front: 3,750 lb Curb weight rear is 6,820 lb
> Front cargo & pass. load: 750 lb Rear cargo & pass load: 1,280 lb
> Total: 4,500 lb Total
> 8,000 lb
>
> Curb weight is the maximum weight of the vehicle without driver, passenger
> or cargo, but does include fuel and coolant.
>
> 23 Foot GMC
>
> Curb weight front: 3,700 lb Curb weight rear is 5,950 lb
> Front cargo & pass. load: 500 lb Rear cargo & pass load: 1,550 lb
> Total: 4,200 lb Total
> 7,500 lb
>
> Curb weight is the maximum weight of the vehicle without driver, passenger
> or cargo, but does include fuel and coolant.
>
> As you can see the 3 ton stands can safely handle the front of both length
> vehicles.
>
> However, if you use the 3 ton jack stands under the rear bogies of a 23 ft
> GMC you will overload them up to 750 lbs each and under a 26 ft GMC up to
> 1000 lb each. In fact from the data I've seen collected at weigh in sessions
> it could even be more!
>
> DO NOT USE 3 TON JACK STANDS TO SUPPORT THE REAR OF THE GMC!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack Christensen
>
> Jack stands are rated as a pair, e.g. 3 tons is 1.5 tons each. They have 6
> tons jack stands as well which I've been using for some time. I also have
> their 4 ton floor jack which works well. I had a HG 2 1/2 ton floor jack
> give way on me. Made a bit of mess, but no personal damage. It was either
> the jack or perhaps I placed it incorrectly under the bogie. Anyway, it's
> been retired.
> --
> Jack
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Harbor Freight Sale [message #172824 is a reply to message #172819] |
Sun, 10 June 2012 17:10 |
stick miller
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I drove to HF in Macon, GA and bought myself a "semi-dremel" tool kit and a fake "sawzall". Good enough for amateur work.
Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
Americus, GA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Harbor Freight Sale [message #172892 is a reply to message #172819] |
Mon, 11 June 2012 00:01 |
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USAussie
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Mac,
I'm confused!
Are you saying that each jack stand is rated at 3 tons and if you use a pair
you can support 6 tons?
Also I don't understand what a metric tonne has to do with this discussion,
the jack stands rated in tons not metric tonnes.
I went to the Torin website and downloaded the manual for these stands. It
does not state what the "total" weight they will support is so I emailed
Customer Service and asked if a pair would support 6,000 pounds or 12,000
pounds.
I do REALLY like the back up pin! It appears that you could add that feature
to the HF jack stands.
If you could take some pictures of your jack stands with measurements it
would help anyone that has jack stands without this feature.
Picture of the pins with measurements would also help.
Thanks,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: D C *Mac* Macdonald
EACH of my Torin Big Red jackstands from Northern Tool has "3 TON" on its
label.
Mine are the "double locking" variety that have a solid pin that passes
through the frame and locks (supposedly) the riser from dropping because it
acts on the teeth of that riser.
I know there is a difference between a metric "tonne" and a US/English
"ton."
The metric tonne is 1000 kg, which is close to 2200 pounds or about 10% more
actual weight that "our" ton.
Is 6,000 lbs not equal to 3 tons as I learned it in elementary school some
65 years ago??
~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Harbor Freight Sale [message #172901 is a reply to message #172826] |
Mon, 11 June 2012 06:11 |
jhbridges
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Are the Popes from Lee County, AL members of that tribe? Cousin of mine is marrit to the youngest (in his late 50s)
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
From: Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Harbor Freight Sale
I went to the annual Pope Family Reunion, held this year at the MM Clubhouse.
Ken
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Stick Miller <stickmiller@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
> I drove to HF in Macon, GA and bought myself a "semi-dremel" tool kit and a fake "sawzall". Good enough for amateur work.
> --
> Stick Miller
> '78 Royale - she left me for another man
> Americus, Georgia
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| Re: [GMCnet] Harbor Freight Sale [message #172908 is a reply to message #172901] |
Mon, 11 June 2012 07:27 |
petemosss
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@ Rob. These two are currently supporting the front end of the girlfriends 15' Scotty camper. They appear to handle 100 lbs of tongue weight just fine even bent. LOL
anyway,
Both rear sides were first lifted w. hooks to get to min. jack-stand height. I was lifting under the center of the rad. support when the Drivers side jack stand just collapsed sending coach southward. It just looks like the thin plate steel reinforcement spot welded to legs just buckled with the slightest lateral pressure pushing rearward while lifting. The welds are fine the plates are bent slightly.
PS: I also have a 2 y.o. 3T Torin Floor Jack from Northern Tool that is also a complete POS. No matter how slow you go on turning the handle it drops like a guillotine. And that's under my VW. I wouldn't even think about it around the GMC.
I could not be more disgusted as an American.
Pete
74 Canyon Lands 26' "Emery"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Harbor Freight Sale [message #172919 is a reply to message #172892] |
Mon, 11 June 2012 10:01 |
k2gkk
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G'day, Rob.
I am NOT stating that each jack stand will support 3 tons.
I AM stating that each stand says "3 TON" on its label.
If THAT is correct, then a pair should safely hold up
even the rear end of the GMC, as far as I can see.
I simply do not KNOW!
I hope you get a good answer from Torin because I would
REALLY like to know! When I jacked up Money Pit/Pig at
Shawnee on the left side to fix my black tank dump rod
mechanism, it all seemed quite sturdy.
By the way, the Northern Tool part number for the ones
I bought (on sale) is 144874-1204.
The height range is 11 5/8 to 16 3/4 inches. That
"locking peg" is a solid aluminum triangular device that
goes through the stand completely and locks the ratcheting
extension.
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~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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> From: robmueller@iinet.net.au
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:01:19 +1000
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Harbor Freight Sale
>
> Mac,
>
> I'm confused!
>
> Are you saying that each jack stand is rated at 3 tons and if you use a pair
> you can support 6 tons?
>
> Also I don't understand what a metric tonne has to do with this discussion,
> the jack stands rated in tons not metric tonnes.
>
> I went to the Torin website and downloaded the manual for these stands. It
> does not state what the "total" weight they will support is so I emailed
> Customer Service and asked if a pair would support 6,000 pounds or 12,000
> pounds.
>
> I do REALLY like the back up pin! It appears that you could add that feature
> to the HF jack stands.
>
> If you could take some pictures of your jack stands with measurements it
> would help anyone that has jack stands without this feature.
>
> Picture of the pins with measurements would also help.
>
> Thanks,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: D C *Mac* Macdonald
>
> EACH of my Torin Big Red jackstands from Northern Tool has "3 TON" on its
> label.
>
> Mine are the "double locking" variety that have a solid pin that passes
> through the frame and locks (supposedly) the riser from dropping because it
> acts on the teeth of that riser.
>
> I know there is a difference between a metric "tonne" and a US/English
> "ton."
>
> The metric tonne is 1000 kg, which is close to 2200 pounds or about 10% more
> actual weight that "our" ton.
>
> Is 6,000 lbs not equal to 3 tons as I learned it in elementary school some
> 65 years ago??
>
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
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| Re: [GMCnet] Harbor Freight Sale [message #172943 is a reply to message #172919] |
Mon, 11 June 2012 11:55 |
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mike miller
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| k2gkk wrote on Mon, 11 June 2012 08:01 |
...
I am NOT stating that each jack stand will support 3 tons.
I AM stating that each stand says "3 TON" on its label.
If THAT is correct, then a pair should safely hold up
even the rear end of the GMC, as far as I can see.
I simply do not KNOW!
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When I weighed my 26 foot, I found that each front wheel was just over a ton (~2200lbs) and EACH rear wheel was just under a ton (~1750lbs).
IF the stands are rated at 3 tons a pair that would make them rated at 1.5tons (3000lbs) EACH. One SIDE in the rear of my 26 foot weighs about 3500lbs. (500lbs overload.)
So... Yes, it makes a BIG difference.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo'
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