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[GMCnet] Final Drive Shaft Seal [message #171998] Mon, 04 June 2012 11:24 Go to next message
Ray Erspamer is currently offline  Ray Erspamer   United States
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Hi Guys

I've got a leaking left final drive seal, how hard is this to replace ???

I've contacted Jim Kan-O-Tomatoes to see if I can get a new seal, are any
special tools needed? I can grab a seal locally if it's something standard.

Thanks

Ray


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Re: [GMCnet] Final Drive Shaft Seal [message #172001 is a reply to message #171998] Mon, 04 June 2012 11:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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Ray, a few words of caution about seal replacement. First, check the
lubricant for any presence of ATF. If it is pink at all, the duplex seal
between the final drive and the transmission is leaking transmission fluid
forward into the final drive. If this is the case, you are going to have to
pull the final drive and replace the sea. Second, what I often do when
replacing a seal is to take a very sharp scratch awl and punch a hole in
the metal part of the seal. Use a slide hammer with a self tapping screw on
the end and screw it into the hole that you punched. A few strokes with the
slide hammer, and the seal is out. Sometimes on a stubborn seal, more than
one hole will have to be punched. While you have the CV flange out, inspect
the area that the seal runs on. They can become quite worn. If it is
grooved, there is a product called a "speedy sleeve" that can be used to
repair them. On the big seal on the passenger side of the final drive,
there is an "up" side to the seal and it must be installed with the 2
little weep holes towards the top of the case. Also, make sure the gasket
on the cover is installed correctly and that the vent near the top bolt
hole is open.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Ray Erspamer <78gmc-royale@att.net> wrote:

> Hi Guys
>
> I've got a leaking left final drive seal, how hard is this to replace ???
>
> I've contacted Jim Kan-O-Tomatoes to see if I can get a new seal, are any
> special tools needed? I can grab a seal locally if it's something
> standard.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ray
>
>
> Ray & Lisa
> 78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
> Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
> Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
> Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
> 414-745-3188
> Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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Re: [GMCnet] Final Drive Shaft Seal [message #172006 is a reply to message #172001] Mon, 04 June 2012 12:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jimk is currently offline  jimk   United States
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Look here, There is less likely that the seal is at fault.
It is probably the venting system and also a wrong cover.
Don't waste your time .
Call me so I can help.800-752-7502

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 9:46 AM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ray, a few words of caution about seal replacement. First, check the
> lubricant for any presence of ATF. If it is pink at all, the duplex seal
> between the final drive and the transmission is leaking transmission fluid
> forward into the final drive. If this is the case, you are going to have to
> pull the final drive and replace the sea. Second, what I often do when
> replacing a seal is to take a very sharp scratch awl and punch a hole in
> the metal part of the seal. Use a slide hammer with a self tapping screw on
> the end and screw it into the hole that you punched. A few strokes with the
> slide hammer, and the seal is out. Sometimes on a stubborn seal, more than
> one hole will have to be punched. While you have the CV flange out, inspect
> the area that the seal runs on. They can become quite worn. If it is
> grooved, there is a product called a "speedy sleeve" that can be used to
> repair them. On the big seal on the passenger side of the final drive,
> there is an "up" side to the seal and it must be installed with the 2
> little weep holes towards the top of the case. Also, make sure the gasket
> on the cover is installed correctly and that the vent near the top bolt
> hole is open.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, OR
> 78 GMC Royale 403
>
> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Ray Erspamer <78gmc-royale@att.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys
>>
>> I've got a leaking left final drive seal, how hard is this to replace ???
>>
>> I've contacted Jim Kan-O-Tomatoes to see if I can get a new seal, are any
>> special tools needed?   I can grab a seal locally if it's something
>> standard.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>  Ray
>>
>>
>> Ray & Lisa
>> 78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
>> Center Kitchen  TZE368V101144
>> Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
>> Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
>> 414-745-3188
>> Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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Re: [GMCnet] Final Drive Shaft Seal [message #172022 is a reply to message #172006] Mon, 04 June 2012 14:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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Mine was leaking on the driver's side. Had it fixed when Jim's mechanic installed the one ton frontend. I have no clue what caused it to leak.
Call Jim about it before you do anything. Talk with him and not the secretary. Very Happy
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Final Drive Shaft Seal [message #172032 is a reply to message #172022] Mon, 04 June 2012 16:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ray Erspamer is currently offline  Ray Erspamer   United States
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Mine is also leaking on the drivers side Dan. You can see where it flinging it
out.

Ray


Ray & Lisa
78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/




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Mine was leaking on the driver's side. Had it fixed when Jim's mechanic
installed the one ton frontend. I have no clue what caused it to leak.
Call Jim about it before you do anything. Talk with him and not the secretary.
:d

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Re: [GMCnet] Final Drive Shaft Seal [message #172040 is a reply to message #172032] Mon, 04 June 2012 16:59 Go to previous message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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Ray, I had so many leaks, on that engine and tranny, I did not know that the final drive was leaking. Jim's mechanic saw it and we had him fix it. I hate any leaks. This engine has 6,000 miles on it, John in Tucson fixed the tranny leaks, no oily spots in my driveway now. I also had a stock 307 leak on same side and the bearing started failing. Jim will take care of you.
Dan


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