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ljdavick
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I picked up a new Onan starter and RAGUSA deflector from Jim K today. Nick had the starter and RAGUSA deflector waiting for me at the front counter!
I felt like an honored guest. We are lucky to have (particularly those of us in the Bay Area) such a vendor. Nobody knows everything, or stocks everything, but Jim and Nick know where to get the stuff!
They say satisfied customer generally tell 4 people, whereas dissatisfied people tell 9. Y'all are my 4.
While I was there I looked at the remains of a 23 footer. I have a better idea how to route the cable for my rear view camera and the cut-out for the air conditioning mod.
Larry Davick
The Mystery Machine
Fremont, Ca.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan Starter [message #171930 is a reply to message #171835] |
Sun, 03 June 2012 22:19  |
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Larry,
You a great customer as you call ahead with the order.
Some show up and think we can wait on them as they pull out their list.
Our fill ratio is over 90%, but it is a pain when there are couple
people that need help on the line.
We enjoy having you stop in on Saturday as our phone load is not as hectic.
Currently were still looking for inventory misplaced in our new building.
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 12:37 AM, Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net> wrote:
> I picked up a new Onan starter and RAGUSA deflector from Jim K today. Â Nick had the starter and RAGUSA deflector waiting for me at the front counter!
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> I felt like an honored guest. We are lucky to have (particularly those of us in the Bay Area) such a vendor. Â Nobody knows everything, or stocks everything, but Jim and Nick know where to get the stuff!
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> They say satisfied customer generally tell 4 people, whereas dissatisfied people tell 9. Y'all are my 4.
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> While I was there I looked at the remains of a 23 footer. I have a better idea how to route the cable for my rear view camera and the cut-out for the air conditioning mod.
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> Larry Davick
> The Mystery Machine
> Fremont, Ca.
> 1976(ish) Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan Starter [message #171938 is a reply to message #171930] |
Mon, 04 June 2012 00:47 |
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ljdavick
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I installed the starter motor and RAGUSA deflector today. 2 steps forward, one step back.
Silly me - I was certain that the starter install would be 2 bolts + wires - simple 30 minute job. Well, once I installed the starter and tried to start the Troll there was a terrible grinding sound. I pulled off the cover and the fan surround to see that the starter gear was only barely engaging the big ring gear. For some reason I can’t now remember (and I haven’t been drinking!) I decided to install the RAGUSA starter motor bracket, that I’ve had for months, and try again. Well in order to do that I had to remove the fly-wheel. Removed the center nut and tugged and pulled and smacked it with a brass hammer and tugged some more - no go.
I thought about fashioning a simple puller but my drill bits were too dull. Finally I drove to Harbor Freight to pick up a cheap puller, and that popped the fly-wheel right off. I lit up my air compressor and blew away years of accumulated crud and pulled off a lot of tin. The Onan factory bracket looked pretty beefy, and it wasn’t broken at all, but I still replaced it with the RAGUSA one. Oddly the RAGUSA bracket did not have one screw hole that the Onan bracket included. I chalked this up to weight saving, and it was a small screw used to fasten the tin, and looked rather redundant. Once the new bracket was in I tried to remember how to replace the tin. I was so proud that it only took me 3 tries to get it right, I think.
I put the new starter in and looked at the alignment. It was spot-on. The gears looked to mesh perfectly. Turned on the batteries (from the disconnect) and tried to crank her. She cranked perfectly with every attempt but GOD what an awful racket. The fly-wheel is rubbing against the tin.
Still, I buttoned her up and sort-of hoped that the noise would go away. Once it was all back together (oh yes, including the new RAGUSA deflector) she fired up and ran beautifully, but LOUD! The clatter from that tin made my teeth hurt. The Onan was running, electricity was produced and the noise didn’t go away. Thankfully once I pushed it back into the hole the noise wasn’t so bad, but I’ve got to get back in and fix this.
Is it acceptable to add a washer as a shim to the fly-wheel? I honestly think that upon reinstalling the fly-wheel I got it closer to the tin than before so that it now rubs. Maybe I bent the tin, but I don’t see how. I’m concerned that the shaft looked to be tapered, and adding a shim might be a very bad idea.
One other small point - the RAGUSA air deflector’s instructions said to drill a 9/32” hole for the provided sheet metal screw. The provided screw was too small. I found the perfect screw in my junk box. I really like the look of this deflector - it looks very substantial. Now my coach has RAGUSA products from stem to stern!
Oh, and the 30 minute job was more like 4 hours. Boy did I have fun!
Larry Davick
The Mystery Machine
1976(ish) Palm Beach
Fremont, CA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan Starter [message #171945 is a reply to message #171938] |
Mon, 04 June 2012 01:53 |
Ken Burton
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Do not feel bad. It took me 2.5 hours to replace an air filter on my Blazer Saturday evening. It was only 4 wing bolts. I could not get one started. I ended up removing the entire air filter box and MAP sensor. Then I drove to the airport to borrow a metric tap for one of the holes. No one was around so I went to three stores before I found the correct tap.
2.5 hours to do a 5 minute job.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan Starter [message #171962 is a reply to message #171945] |
Mon, 04 June 2012 06:55 |
Ken Henderson
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And y'all wonder why it takes me 2 months to find, rebuild, and install a
Cad 500!
I'm gonna drive it some more today, this time for EFI calibration.
Ken H.
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 2:53 AM, Ken Burton wrote:
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> Do not feel bad. It took me 2.5 hours to replace an air filter on my
> Blazer Saturday evening...
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan Starter [message #172000 is a reply to message #171962] |
Mon, 04 June 2012 11:40 |
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| Ken Henderson wrote on Mon, 04 June 2012 06:55 |
And y'all wonder why it takes me 2 months to find, rebuild, and install a
Cad 500!
I'm gonna drive it some more today, this time for EFI calibration.
Ken H.
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 2:53 AM, Ken Burton wrote:
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Yes, but you have more experience changing Cadillac engines than I do changing Blazer air filters. That should have some effect on the total time it takes to do the job.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan Starter [message #172059 is a reply to message #171962] |
Mon, 04 June 2012 20:06 |
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Two months??? My god, what a speed demon! Took me two years(I think)
Gary Kosier
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From: Ken Henderson
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And y'all wonder why it takes me 2 months to find, rebuild, and install a
Cad 500!
I'm gonna drive it some more today, this time for EFI calibration.
Ken H.
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> Blazer Saturday evening...
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan Starter [message #172184 is a reply to message #172113] |
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ljdavick
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Matt,
If you are suggesting that my attention to detail is somewhat lacking then I’m afraid you are correct!
I just didn’t see any way I could have mucked up the tin. Now the scary question - I reinstalled the flywheel, not with a torque wrench, but with an electric impact wrench. Is it possible that I drove the flywheel too far onto the taper? Should I look for a replacement flywheel?
Larry Davick
The Mystery Machine
1976(ish) Palm Beach
Fremont, CA
On Jun 5, 2012, at 6:50 AM, Matt Colie wrote:
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> The flywheel is on a taper. You cannot change the position on the crankshaft.....
> I suggest that you look at adjusting the fan's airbox in greater detail. Maybe something got assembled a little wrong.
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> Matt
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> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan Starter [message #172211 is a reply to message #172184] |
Tue, 05 June 2012 23:03 |
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| ljdavick wrote on Tue, 05 June 2012 19:23 |
Matt,
If you are suggesting that my attention to detail is somewhat lacking then I’m afraid you are correct!
I just didn’t see any way I could have mucked up the tin. Now the scary question - I reinstalled the flywheel, not with a torque wrench, but with an electric impact wrench. Is it possible that I drove the flywheel too far onto the taper? Should I look for a replacement flywheel?
Larry Davick
The Mystery Machine
1976(ish) Palm Beach
Fremont, CA
On Jun 5, 2012, at 6:50 AM, Matt Colie wrote:
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No. Not unless you split the center of the flywheel and then it would not go very far. Fix the air shield that is rubbing.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan Starter [message #172227 is a reply to message #172211] |
Wed, 06 June 2012 08:31 |
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| Ken Burton wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 00:03 |
| ljdavick wrote on Tue, 05 June 2012 19:23 |
Matt,
If you are suggesting that my attention to detail is somewhat lacking then I’m afraid you are correct!
I just didn’t see any way I could have mucked up the tin. Now the scary question - I reinstalled the flywheel, not with a torque wrench, but with an electric impact wrench. Is it possible that I drove the flywheel too far onto the taper? Should I look for a replacement flywheel?
Larry Davick
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No. Not unless you split the center of the flywheel and then it would not go very far. Fix the air shield that is rubbing.
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Larry,
The electric wrench was a dangerous move.
If you do not now see cracks in the flywheel, it is probably good.
I would suggest that you remove it now, read the book and then put it back on. There are two reasons for this.
First is that the repeated load caused by the running engine combined with the possibly higher than expected load in the hub may cause the flywheel casting to crack at some time in the future.
Second is that those same things sited above may cause the flywheel to gall or weld to the crankshaft. This could real difficulties at a future service.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan Starter [message #172247 is a reply to message #172227] |
Wed, 06 June 2012 10:45 |
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ljdavick
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Off she comes. I did spray some white lithium grease on the shaft and inner surface of the flywheel before reinstalling.
I suppose I’ll have to say it to myself - RTFM!
Larry Davick
The Mystery Machine
1976(ish) Palm Beach
Fremont, CA
On Jun 6, 2012, at 6:31 AM, Matt Colie wrote:
> Larry,
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> The electric wrench was a dangerous move.
> If you do not now see cracks in the flywheel, it is probably good.
> I would suggest that you remove it now, read the book and then put it back on. There are two reasons for this.
> First is that the repeated load caused by the running engine combined with the possibly higher than expected load in the hub may cause the flywheel casting to crack at some time in the future.
> Second is that those same things sited above may cause the flywheel to gall or weld to the crankshaft. This could real difficulties at a future service.
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> Matt
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> '73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air) Just about as stock as you will find
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan Starter [message #172300 is a reply to message #172291] |
Wed, 06 June 2012 18:46 |
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Rob,
Yup - I checked the manual too AFTER I rammed the flywheel back on. I wonder if I've cracked the flywheel if I'll actually be able to see it. I'll try torquing it properly and hope for the best. If that works I'll let everyone know, even though you will hear the WHOOPIE even in Australia!
Larry Davick
Fremont, California
The Mystery Machine
'76 (ish) Palm Beach
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 3:53:16 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Onan Starter
Larry,
I checked the MM and the torque on the flywheel is 35-40 ft lb. IIWY I would
remove the flywheel and put it back on torqued correctly.
Regards,
Rob
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan Starter [message #172350 is a reply to message #172308] |
Thu, 07 June 2012 00:57 |
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ljdavick
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Rob,
Thanks for the offer and the advise. You poor thing, stuck in Australia where Beer is used to clean clothes. You’ll give away any precious thing for a decent American beer! I’m happy to share something even better, my favorite Gin from San Francisco - Distillery #209 from Pier 50. As yummy on ice as it is on Corn Flakes.
Oh dear - I’m beginning to think I could have a problem...
Larry Davick
The Mystery Machine
1976(ish) Palm Beach
Fremont, CA
On Jun 6, 2012, at 6:04 PM, Robert Mueller wrote:
> Larry,
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> Frankly I would be surprised if you did as it is a solid hunk of cast iron.
> I had mine off for rebalancing after I flap wheeled down the fins to clear
> the Pertronics sensor I mounted too close.
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> I would check the corners of the slot for the keyway with a magnifying glass
> as that's probably the weakest point.
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> If it is cracked JimB has a pile of them and I'd be willing to send you one
> for the price off shipping and promise of a beer next time you meet!
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> Regards,
> Rob M.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan Starter [message #172354 is a reply to message #172350] |
Thu, 07 June 2012 06:01 |
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Larry,
I'm not much of a beer drinker myself, single malt is my preference but a
nice gin and tonic is refreshing on a hot summer's day.
I will make one comment about American beer that a REAL Aussie once noted:
"your Yank piss is like rootin' in a tinny!"
Translation "your Yank beer is like screwing in an aluminum boat."
Since I looked rather perplexed he added; "F'in near water!"
This was back in the '80's when the beer here had a much higher alcohol
content than US beer.
Regards,
Rob M.
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Sent: Thursday, 7 June 2012 3:58 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Onan Starter
Rob,
Thanks for the offer and the advise. You poor thing, stuck in Australia
where Beer is used to clean clothes. You'll give away any precious thing
for a decent American beer! I'm happy to share something even better, my
favorite Gin from San Francisco - Distillery #209 from Pier 50. As yummy on
ice as it is on Corn Flakes.
Oh dear - I'm beginning to think I could have a problem...
Larry
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan Starter [message #172356 is a reply to message #172350] |
Thu, 07 June 2012 07:12 |
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Larry -
Go buy yourself a bottle of Blanton's. Enjoy a couple of shots over ice. Then pour the gin back in the horse. And remember, Aussies drink Canadian beer (Foster's)
Â
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
From: Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 1:57 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Onan Starter
Rob,
Thanks for the offer and the advise. You poor thing, stuck in Australia where Beer is used to clean clothes. You’ll give away any precious thing for a decent American beer! I’m happy to share something even better, my favorite Gin from San Francisco - Distillery #209 from Pier 50. As yummy on ice as it is on Corn Flakes.
Oh dear - I’m beginning to think I could have a problem...
Larry Davick
The Mystery Machine
1976(ish) Palm Beach
Fremont, CA
On Jun 6, 2012, at 6:04 PM, Robert Mueller wrote:
> Larry,
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> Frankly I would be surprised if you did as it is a solid hunk of cast iron.
> I had mine off for rebalancing after I flap wheeled down the fins to clear
> the Pertronics sensor I mounted too close.
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> I would check the corners of the slot for the keyway with a magnifying glass
> as that's probably the weakest point.
>
> If it is cracked JimB has a pile of them and I'd be willing to send you one
> for the price off shipping and promise of a beer next time you meet!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan Starter [message #172372 is a reply to message #172356] |
Thu, 07 June 2012 09:11 |
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Johnny,
No they don't!
New South Wales: Tooheys, Reschs, Hahn, James Squire, KB Lager and St Arnou
Queensland: XXXX and Powers
South Australia: West End, Southwark and Coopers
Tasmania: Boags in the north, Cascade in the south
Victoria: Carlton Draught, Victoria Bitter and Melbourne Bitter
Western Australia: Swan and Emu
As you can see Foster's ain't even on the list!
NSW Joke: Why do Queenslanders call their beer XXXX? Cause they can't spell
beer!
If you read this, sorry Mark!
Regards,
Rob M.
PS - Fosters does own the brewery that makes Victoria Bitter and others.
-----Original Message-----
From: Johnny Bridges
Larry -
Go buy yourself a bottle of Blanton's. Enjoy a couple of shots over ice.
Then pour the gin back in the horse. And remember, Aussies drink Canadian
beer (Foster's)
--johnny
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'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Thu, 07 June 2012 10:04 |
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Then they got better sense than I thought! Actually, a local (Atlanta) bar owner used to buy Aussie Fosters, until it got too expensive to fly it in. Decent beer, unlike the product from Canada. They brew it there so they can sell it here as 'imported'. I notice PBR ain't on your list either - was the tipple of choice when I was a young sprat.
But, having only a small Norcold fridge in the coach, I have to stock the Good Stuff. Not enough room fopr swill.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode
'76 palm beach
From: Robert Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Onan Starter
Johnny,
No they don't!
New South Wales: Tooheys, Reschs, Hahn, James Squire, KB Lager and St Arnou
Queensland: XXXX and Powers
South Australia: West End, Southwark and Coopers
Tasmania: Boags in the north, Cascade in the south
Victoria: Carlton Draught, Victoria Bitter and Melbourne Bitter
Western Australia: Swan and Emu
As you can see Foster's ain't even on the list!
NSW Joke: Why do Queenslanders call their beer XXXX? Cause they can't spell
beer!
If you read this, sorry Mark!
Regards,
Rob M.
PS - Fosters does own the brewery that makes Victoria Bitter and others.
-----Original Message-----
From: Johnny Bridges
Larry -
Go buy yourself a bottle of Blanton's. Enjoy a couple of shots over ice.
Then pour the gin back in the horse. And remember, Aussies drink Canadian
beer (Foster's)
--johnny
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Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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