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[GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ? [message #170993] Sun, 27 May 2012 18:11 Go to next message
Kingsley Coach is currently offline  Kingsley Coach   United States
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Netters

Is Mobile 1 still an acceptable grease for CV joints or has it fallen out
of fashion?
I hope the answer is 'yes' because I just stuffed the CV joints in my
Porsche with the stuff, however, it's a easy job to do and I can replace it
with something else if necessary. As mentioned by a few in the past, the
bottom of the can had some 'cherry juice' floating around.

Tks
Mike in NS

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Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ? [message #171001 is a reply to message #170993] Sun, 27 May 2012 19:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike,

Here's more info on grease than you probably want!

Regards,
Rob M

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Valvoline Synpower is more than adequate to lube the parts of the front end.

Here's Synpower from Napa @ $6.39 a tube.

http://tinyurl.com/3ul6uvl

https://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx?A=VAR985_000641163
8&An=0

Here's a link to the product information sheet on Synpower in Gene Fishers
photo album:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/5141/SynPower_Grease.pdf

As you can see they also recommend it for wheel bearings.

Using this grease will require carrying only one grease gun in your GMC.

Here's a picture of Valvoline Dura Blend in Gene Fishers photo album:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29595

Ken Burton noted that he gets the grease below from Tractor Supply @ $3.19 a
tube.

http://tinyurl.com/3ee6sgt

http://www.tractorsupply.com/vehicle-maintenance-accessories/vehicle-lubrica
nts-oil/grease/traveller-reg-moly-special-purpose-grease-14-oz--0804967

And last but not least none of the moly greases are available Downunder so
Bob Cook put me on to Caterpillar Desert Gold which is sold here.

http://www.cat.com/cda/files/1386255/7/NEHP6012-02.pdf


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From: Kingsley Coach

Netters

Is Mobile 1 still an acceptable grease for CV joints or has it fallen out
of fashion?
I hope the answer is 'yes' because I just stuffed the CV joints in my
Porsche with the stuff, however, it's a easy job to do and I can replace it
with something else if necessary. As mentioned by a few in the past, the
bottom of the can had some 'cherry juice' floating around.

Tks
Mike in NS


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Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ? [message #171018 is a reply to message #170993] Sun, 27 May 2012 20:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Mike: it probably will be fine in one of them Porches, but I would not use it in the Panhead.




Kingsley Coach wrote on Sun, 27 May 2012 19:11

Netters

Is Mobile 1 still an acceptable grease for CV joints or has it fallen out
of fashion?
I hope the answer is 'yes' because I just stuffed the CV joints in my
Porsche with the stuff, however, it's a easy job to do and I can replace it
with something else if necessary. As mentioned by a few in the past, the
bottom of the can had some 'cherry juice' floating around.

Tks
Mike in NS

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Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ? [message #171050 is a reply to message #171018] Mon, 28 May 2012 06:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob
No question there's a lot if reading there, but after 30 years teaching
English, I now just look at the pictures now. I will do all furture
selecting based upon colour and design of the packaging. Even this method
give a lot of selection and good quality <VBG> Thanks for the info !

Mike...a bit North of you.



On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Charles Boyd <covered-wagon@comcast.net>wrote:

>
>
> Hi Mike: it probably will be fine in one of them Porches, but I would not
> use it in the Panhead.
>
>
>
>
> Kingsley Coach wrote on Sun, 27 May 2012 19:11
> > Netters
> >
> > Is Mobile 1 still an acceptable grease for CV joints or has it fallen out
> > of fashion?
> > I hope the answer is 'yes' because I just stuffed the CV joints in my
> > Porsche with the stuff, however, it's a easy job to do and I can replace
> it
> > with something else if necessary. As mentioned by a few in the past, the
> > bottom of the can had some 'cherry juice' floating around.
> >
> > Tks
> > Mike in NS
> >
> > --
> > Michael Beaton
> > 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> > 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> > Antigonish, NS
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Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ? [message #171052 is a reply to message #171018] Mon, 28 May 2012 07:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Chuck

Don't think I'd use it on the Panhead either.....the Pan is way too
complicated. The manual states on p.13, " If winter weather becomes so
extremely cold that 'Light' oil congeals in tank, add just enough kerosene
to keep oil fluid."
No measurements, no further directions...common sense required.....and that
usually leaves me out! <VBG>

Mike

On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Charles Boyd <covered-wagon@comcast.net>wrote:

>
>
> Hi Mike: it probably will be fine in one of them Porches, but I would not
> use it in the Panhead.
>
>
>
>
> Kingsley Coach wrote on Sun, 27 May 2012 19:11
> > Netters
> >
> > Is Mobile 1 still an acceptable grease for CV joints or has it fallen out
> > of fashion?
> > I hope the answer is 'yes' because I just stuffed the CV joints in my
> > Porsche with the stuff, however, it's a easy job to do and I can replace
> it
> > with something else if necessary. As mentioned by a few in the past, the
> > bottom of the can had some 'cherry juice' floating around.
> >
> > Tks
> > Mike in NS
> >
> > --
> > Michael Beaton
> > 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> > 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> > Antigonish, NS
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Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ? [message #171053 is a reply to message #171018] Mon, 28 May 2012 07:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Chuck

I thought I just typed a reply, but I guess it didn't go through.
Don't know that I'd use it on my Pan either, it's way too complicated.
Page 13 of the manual states, " If winter weather becomes so extremely cold
that 'light' oil congeals in tank, add just enough kerosene to keep oil
fluid."
No ,measurements, no further instructions, just common sense required...and
most times that leaves me out! <VBG>

Mike

On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Charles Boyd <covered-wagon@comcast.net>wrote:

>
>
> Hi Mike: it probably will be fine in one of them Porches, but I would not
> use it in the Panhead.
>
>
>
>
> Kingsley Coach wrote on Sun, 27 May 2012 19:11
> > Netters
> >
> > Is Mobile 1 still an acceptable grease for CV joints or has it fallen out
> > of fashion?
> > I hope the answer is 'yes' because I just stuffed the CV joints in my
> > Porsche with the stuff, however, it's a easy job to do and I can replace
> it
> > with something else if necessary. As mentioned by a few in the past, the
> > bottom of the can had some 'cherry juice' floating around.
> >
> > Tks
> > Mike in NS
> >
> > --
> > Michael Beaton
> > 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> > 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> > Antigonish, NS
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>
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Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ? [message #171054 is a reply to message #171053] Mon, 28 May 2012 07:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Isn't that Mobil One Synpower grease that is recommended for
a bunch of applications for our coaches? NOT Mobil One oil!

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
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~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 09:11:23 -0300
> From: kingsleygmc@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ?
>
> Chuck
>
> I thought I just typed a reply, but I guess it didn't go through.
> Don't know that I'd use it on my Pan either, it's way too complicated.
> Page 13 of the manual states, " If winter weather becomes so extremely cold
> that 'light' oil congeals in tank, add just enough kerosene to keep oil
> fluid."
> No ,measurements, no further instructions, just common sense required...and
> most times that leaves me out! <VBG>
>
> Mike
>
> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Charles Boyd <covered-wagon@comcast.net>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Mike: it probably will be fine in one of them Porches, but I would not
> > use it in the Panhead.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kingsley Coach wrote on Sun, 27 May 2012 19:11
> > > Netters
> > >
> > > Is Mobile 1 still an acceptable grease for CV joints or has it fallen out
> > > of fashion?
> > > I hope the answer is 'yes' because I just stuffed the CV joints in my
> > > Porsche with the stuff, however, it's a easy job to do and I can replace
> > it
> > > with something else if necessary. As mentioned by a few in the past, the
> > > bottom of the can had some 'cherry juice' floating around.
> > >
> > > Tks
> > > Mike in NS
> > >
> > > --
> > > Michael Beaton
> > > 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> > > 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> > > Antigonish, NS
> > > _______________________________________________
> > >
> >
> > --
> > C. Boyd
> > 76 Crestmont by Midas
> > East Tennessee
>
> --
> Michael Beaton
> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> Antigonish, NS

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Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ? [message #171056 is a reply to message #171054] Mon, 28 May 2012 08:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mac
Mobile 1 grease was the question, Not mobile 1 oil...

On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 9:30 AM, D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>wrote:

>
> Isn't that Mobil One Synpower grease that is recommended for
> a bunch of applications for our coaches? NOT Mobil One oil!
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ______________
> *[ ]~~~[][ ][|\
> *--OO--[]---O-*
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 09:11:23 -0300
> > From: kingsleygmc@gmail.com
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ?
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > I thought I just typed a reply, but I guess it didn't go through.
> > Don't know that I'd use it on my Pan either, it's way too complicated.
> > Page 13 of the manual states, " If winter weather becomes so extremely
> cold
> > that 'light' oil congeals in tank, add just enough kerosene to keep oil
> > fluid."
> > No ,measurements, no further instructions, just common sense
> required...and
> > most times that leaves me out! <VBG>
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Charles Boyd <
> covered-wagon@comcast.net>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Mike: it probably will be fine in one of them Porches, but I would
> not
> > > use it in the Panhead.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Kingsley Coach wrote on Sun, 27 May 2012 19:11
> > > > Netters
> > > >
> > > > Is Mobile 1 still an acceptable grease for CV joints or has it
> fallen out
> > > > of fashion?
> > > > I hope the answer is 'yes' because I just stuffed the CV joints in my
> > > > Porsche with the stuff, however, it's a easy job to do and I can
> replace
> > > it
> > > > with something else if necessary. As mentioned by a few in the past,
> the
> > > > bottom of the can had some 'cherry juice' floating around.
> > > >
> > > > Tks
> > > > Mike in NS
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Michael Beaton
> > > > 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> > > > 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> > > > Antigonish, NS
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > C. Boyd
> > > 76 Crestmont by Midas
> > > East Tennessee
> >
> > --
> > Michael Beaton
> > 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> > 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> > Antigonish, NS
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ? [message #171065 is a reply to message #170993] Mon, 28 May 2012 09:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've switched to Valvoline Synpower found at NAPA. Used to like Moble One grease as you can see when clean red grease starts to come out of fittings that are on vented boot parts. However I found the phase separation issue on the red stuff when it sat. Might not be a big deal as it's the carrier settling out. But since these GMCs sit a lot I figured there would be less of that with Synpower. Also the Synpower seems to have solved 'stearing coupler ball bind' on several posts here, so that is the best "field test" I can think of. It seems a bit more substancial than the red stuff. Only one SKU now to have in the garage.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
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Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ? [message #171068 is a reply to message #171054] Mon, 28 May 2012 09:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Mac,

It's VALVOLINE Synpower - close but no cigar! ;-)

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/gmc-chemicals-and-tools/p31184-valvoline1.
html

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: D C *Mac* Macdonald

Isn't that Mobil One Synpower grease that is recommended for
a bunch of applications for our coaches? NOT Mobil One oil!

~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~


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Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ? [message #171074 is a reply to message #171068] Mon, 28 May 2012 10:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey, Rob, at 74 I claim CRS! At least I got the Synpower
part correct and I suspect that is the more important part!

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> From: robmueller@iinet.net.au
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 00:42:53 +1000
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ?
>
> Mac,
>
> It's VALVOLINE Synpower - close but no cigar! ;-)
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/gmc-chemicals-and-tools/p31184-valvoline1.
> html
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: D C *Mac* Macdonald
>
> Isn't that Mobil One Synpower grease that is recommended for
> a bunch of applications for our coaches? NOT Mobil One oil!
>
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~

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Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ? [message #171075 is a reply to message #171065] Mon, 28 May 2012 10:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Monday, May 28, 2012, John R. Lebetski wrote:
>
> I've switched to Valvoline Synpower found at NAPA.
>

Valvoline Synpower is also fortified with molybdenum disulfide, a critical
component in high-force, low-motion systems like CV joints. All specialty
CV grease gas it (its what makes it dark-colored and permanently staining).
And it's rated at up to 450 degrees, while Mobile 1 is only rated to 275 or
something like that.

Rick "who learned about the red stuff the hard way on the steering CV
joint" Denney


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Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ? [message #171122 is a reply to message #171074] Mon, 28 May 2012 18:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Mac,

Hell I'm nine years your junior and I have the same problem from time to
time. Are you telling me it's going to get worse! ;-)

Actually the reason I mentioned it was because I was concerned that if you
went into an auto parts store and asked for Mobil 1 Synpower the geniuses
that work behind the counter now not be able to figger out that you wanted
Valvoline Synpower and tell you they didn't have any! ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: D C *Mac* Macdonald

Hey, Rob, at 74 I claim CRS! At least I got the Synpower
part correct and I suspect that is the more important part!

~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~

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Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ? [message #171171 is a reply to message #170993] Mon, 28 May 2012 23:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mobile one grease is good for little red pull wagons and outhouse doors.

I almost lost some rear wheel bearings to it. Luckily Blaine spotted it and we repacked ALL of my rear wheels just in time. I use Valvoline Synpower on important things like bearings and CV joints. I use TSC non-synthetic moly grease in minimum motion things like ball joints and tie rod ends.

Save the Mobil One for the outhouse. When it fails you probably will still be able to get the door open.


Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ? [message #171184 is a reply to message #171171] Tue, 29 May 2012 06:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you gentlemen one and all! It is clear Chuck and Ken are in the same
camp ! <VBG>
Mike in NS

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:53 AM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>
> Mobile one grease is good for little red pull wagons and outhouse doors.
>
> I almost lost some rear wheel bearings to it. Luckily Blaine spotted it
> and we repacked ALL of my rear wheels just in time. I use Valvoline
> Synpower on important things like bearings and CV joints. I use TSC
> non-synthetic moly grease in minimum motion things like ball joints and tie
> rod ends.
>
> Save the Mobil One for the outhouse. When it fails you probably will
> still be able to get the door open.
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Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ? [message #171340 is a reply to message #171056] Wed, 30 May 2012 10:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ray Erspamer is currently offline  Ray Erspamer   United States
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All I use on my coach is caterpillar desert gold grease, quite pricey, about $14
per tube, but it's incredible stuff.

I'm not a chemical engineer so maybe someone will tell me it's crap, but in the
research I've done I think it's the way to go. JMHO.

Ray


Ray & Lisa
78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/




________________________________
From: Kingsley Coach <kingsleygmc@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Mon, May 28, 2012 8:39:45 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ?

Mac
Mobile 1 grease was the question, Not mobile 1 oil...

On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 9:30 AM, D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>wrote:

>
> Isn't that Mobil One Synpower grease that is recommended for
> a bunch of applications for our coaches? NOT Mobil One oil!
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ______________
> *[ ]~~~[][ ][|\
> *--OO--[]---O-*
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 09:11:23 -0300
> > From: kingsleygmc@gmail.com
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ?
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > I thought I just typed a reply, but I guess it didn't go through.
> > Don't know that I'd use it on my Pan either, it's way too complicated.
> > Page 13 of the manual states, " If winter weather becomes so extremely
> cold
> > that 'light' oil congeals in tank, add just enough kerosene to keep oil
> > fluid."
> > No ,measurements, no further instructions, just common sense
> required...and
> > most times that leaves me out! <VBG>
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Charles Boyd <
> covered-wagon@comcast.net>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Mike: it probably will be fine in one of them Porches, but I would
> not
> > > use it in the Panhead.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Kingsley Coach wrote on Sun, 27 May 2012 19:11
> > > > Netters
> > > >
> > > > Is Mobile 1 still an acceptable grease for CV joints or has it
> fallen out
> > > > of fashion?
> > > > I hope the answer is 'yes' because I just stuffed the CV joints in my
> > > > Porsche with the stuff, however, it's a easy job to do and I can
> replace
> > > it
> > > > with something else if necessary. As mentioned by a few in the past,
> the
> > > > bottom of the can had some 'cherry juice' floating around.
> > > >
> > > > Tks
> > > > Mike in NS
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Michael Beaton
> > > > 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> > > > 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> > > > Antigonish, NS
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > C. Boyd
> > > 76 Crestmont by Midas
> > > East Tennessee
> >
> > --
> > Michael Beaton
> > 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> > 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> > Antigonish, NS
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ? [message #171432 is a reply to message #171340] Wed, 30 May 2012 18:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Ray,

Here's the specs for Desert Gold

NLGI # 2
Ambient Range –20° to +40° C/–4° to +104° F
Operating Range –21° to +149° C/–5° to +300° F
Base Fluid Type Petroleum
Thickener Type Lithium Complex
Color Gray
% Molybdenum disulfi de 3
Worked Penetration (mm) 265-295
% Change/100,000 stroke 10 Max
Roll Stability w/H2O, % change N/A
Viscosity Index, Min N/A
Viscosity @ 100° C, cSt 22
Viscosity @ 40° C, cSt 320
4 Ball Wear (mm) Max, Typ. 0.55
4 Ball E.P. Weld Point (kg) Min. 315
Timken E.P. Test OK load (lb) Typ. 55*
Oxidation – psi drop/500 hr Max N/A
Rust Test Pass
Salt Fog Test, hours N/A
Copper Corrosion 1b
Dropping Point +260° C (+500° F)
* The values shown are typical values and should not be used as quality
control parameters to either

Here's the specs for Valvoline Synpower

Typical Properties
NLGI Grade 2
Working range of -40 to - 400 F.
Thickener Type Lithium Complex
Color and Texture Dark Gray / Buttery
ASTM Worked Penetration @ 77° F 275
ASTM Dropping Pt, °F 500 min.
ASTM D-1743 Rust Test Pass
Weld Pt., kg 315
Load Wear Index, kg 50
Vis @ 100°C (cSt) 5.9
Viscosity Index 135
Pour Point °F -80

As we say Downunder they're near as dammit! ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.
 


-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ray Erspamer
Sent: Thursday, 31 May 2012 1:22 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ?

All I use on my coach is caterpillar desert gold grease, quite pricey, about
$14
per tube, but it's incredible stuff.

I'm not a chemical engineer so maybe someone will tell me it's crap, but in
the
research I've done I think it's the way to go. JMHO.

Ray


Ray & Lisa
78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/




________________________________
From: Kingsley Coach <kingsleygmc@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Mon, May 28, 2012 8:39:45 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ?

Mac
Mobile 1 grease was the question, Not mobile 1 oil...

On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 9:30 AM, D C *Mac* Macdonald
<k2gkk@hotmail.com>wrote:

>
> Isn't that Mobil One Synpower grease that is recommended for
> a bunch of applications for our coaches? NOT Mobil One oil!
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ______________
> *[ ]~~~[][ ][|\
> *--OO--[]---O-*
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 09:11:23 -0300
> > From: kingsleygmc@gmail.com
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ?
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > I thought I just typed a reply, but I guess it didn't go through.
> > Don't know that I'd use it on my Pan either, it's way too complicated.
> > Page 13 of the manual states, " If winter weather becomes so extremely
> cold
> > that 'light' oil congeals in tank, add just enough kerosene to keep oil
> > fluid."
> > No ,measurements, no further instructions, just common sense
> required...and
> > most times that leaves me out! <VBG>
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Charles Boyd <
> covered-wagon@comcast.net>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Mike: it probably will be fine in one of them Porches, but I would
> not
> > > use it in the Panhead.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Kingsley Coach wrote on Sun, 27 May 2012 19:11
> > > > Netters
> > > >
> > > > Is Mobile 1 still an acceptable grease for CV joints or has it
> fallen out
> > > > of fashion?
> > > > I hope the answer is 'yes' because I just stuffed the CV joints in
my
> > > > Porsche with the stuff, however, it's a easy job to do and I can
> replace
> > > it
> > > > with something else if necessary. As mentioned by a few in the past,
> the
> > > > bottom of the can had some 'cherry juice' floating around.
> > > >
> > > > Tks
> > > > Mike in NS
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Michael Beaton
> > > > 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> > > > 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> > > > Antigonish, NS
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > C. Boyd
> > > 76 Crestmont by Midas
> > > East Tennessee
> >
> > --
> > Michael Beaton
> > 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> > 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> > Antigonish, NS
>
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1977 Kingsley 26-11
1977 Eleganza II 26-3
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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ? [message #171545 is a reply to message #171432] Thu, 31 May 2012 10:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ray Erspamer is currently offline  Ray Erspamer   United States
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This is great info Rob, thanks for sharing it !

Ray


Ray & Lisa
78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/




________________________________
From: Robert Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Wed, May 30, 2012 6:53:46 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ?

Ray,

Here's the specs for Desert Gold

NLGI # 2
Ambient Range –20° to +40° C/–4° to +104° F
Operating Range –21° to +149° C/–5° to +300° F
Base Fluid Type Petroleum
Thickener Type Lithium Complex
Color Gray
% Molybdenum disulfi de 3
Worked Penetration (mm) 265-295
% Change/100,000 stroke 10 Max
Roll Stability w/H2O, % change N/A
Viscosity Index, Min N/A
Viscosity @ 100° C, cSt 22
Viscosity @ 40° C, cSt 320
4 Ball Wear (mm) Max, Typ. 0.55
4 Ball E.P. Weld Point (kg) Min. 315
Timken E.P. Test OK load (lb) Typ. 55*
Oxidation – psi drop/500 hr Max N/A
Rust Test Pass
Salt Fog Test, hours N/A
Copper Corrosion 1b
Dropping Point +260° C (+500° F)
* The values shown are typical values and should not be used as quality
control parameters to either

Here's the specs for Valvoline Synpower

Typical Properties
NLGI Grade 2
Working range of -40 to - 400 F.
Thickener Type Lithium Complex
Color and Texture Dark Gray / Buttery
ASTM Worked Penetration @ 77° F 275
ASTM Dropping Pt, °F 500 min.
ASTM D-1743 Rust Test Pass
Weld Pt., kg 315
Load Wear Index, kg 50
Vis @ 100°C (cSt) 5.9
Viscosity Index 135
Pour Point °F -80

As we say Downunder they're near as dammit! ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.



-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ray Erspamer
Sent: Thursday, 31 May 2012 1:22 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ?

All I use on my coach is caterpillar desert gold grease, quite pricey, about
$14
per tube, but it's incredible stuff.

I'm not a chemical engineer so maybe someone will tell me it's crap, but in
the
research I've done I think it's the way to go. JMHO.

Ray


Ray & Lisa
78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/




________________________________
From: Kingsley Coach <kingsleygmc@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Mon, May 28, 2012 8:39:45 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ?

Mac
Mobile 1 grease was the question, Not mobile 1 oil...

On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 9:30 AM, D C *Mac* Macdonald
<k2gkk@hotmail.com>wrote:

>
> Isn't that Mobil One Synpower grease that is recommended for
> a bunch of applications for our coaches? NOT Mobil One oil!
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ______________
> *[ ]~~~[][ ][|\
> *--OO--[]---O-*
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 09:11:23 -0300
> > From: kingsleygmc@gmail.com
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ?
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > I thought I just typed a reply, but I guess it didn't go through.
> > Don't know that I'd use it on my Pan either, it's way too complicated.
> > Page 13 of the manual states, " If winter weather becomes so extremely
> cold
> > that 'light' oil congeals in tank, add just enough kerosene to keep oil
> > fluid."
> > No ,measurements, no further instructions, just common sense
> required...and
> > most times that leaves me out! <VBG>
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Charles Boyd <
> covered-wagon@comcast.net>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Mike: it probably will be fine in one of them Porches, but I would
> not
> > > use it in the Panhead.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Kingsley Coach wrote on Sun, 27 May 2012 19:11
> > > > Netters
> > > >
> > > > Is Mobile 1 still an acceptable grease for CV joints or has it
> fallen out
> > > > of fashion?
> > > > I hope the answer is 'yes' because I just stuffed the CV joints in
my
> > > > Porsche with the stuff, however, it's a easy job to do and I can
> replace
> > > it
> > > > with something else if necessary. As mentioned by a few in the past,
> the
> > > > bottom of the can had some 'cherry juice' floating around.
> > > >
> > > > Tks
> > > > Mike in NS
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Michael Beaton
> > > > 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> > > > 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> > > > Antigonish, NS
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > C. Boyd
> > > 76 Crestmont by Midas
> > > East Tennessee
> >
> > --
> > Michael Beaton
> > 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> > 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> > Antigonish, NS
>
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1977 Kingsley 26-11
1977 Eleganza II 26-3
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Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ? [message #171556 is a reply to message #171432] Thu, 31 May 2012 17:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave Mumert   United States
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Hi Rob

You guys hanging by your feet down there have different Desert Gold the we
do, maybe you have the specs for Ultra 5Moly.

Here is Cat Parts page Desert Gold
http://parts.cat.com/parts/machine-fluids/greases/desert-gold-grease
Cat Ultra 5Moly
http://parts.cat.com/parts/machine-fluids/greases/ultra-5moly-grease

I don't think the operating range goes to 2320 degrees I think they mean 232
degrees. At what temperature does steel melt?

I read somewhere that Calcium Sulfonate was a better thickener than Lithium
when there a chance that moisture might be present.

Like you say, it is pretty much the same as Valvoline Synpower

Dave Mumert

> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ?
>
> Here's the specs for Desert Gold
>
> NLGI # 2
> Ambient Range –20° to +40° C/–4° to +104° F Operating Range –21° to +149°
> C/–5° to +300° F Base Fluid Type Petroleum Thickener Type Lithium Complex
> Color Gray % Molybdenum disulfi de 3 Worked Penetration (mm) 265-295 %
> Change/100,000 stroke 10 Max Roll Stability w/H2O, % change N/A Viscosity
> Index, Min N/A Viscosity @ 100° C, cSt 22 Viscosity @ 40° C, cSt 320
> 4 Ball Wear (mm) Max, Typ. 0.55
> 4 Ball E.P. Weld Point (kg) Min. 315
> Timken E.P. Test OK load (lb) Typ. 55*
> Oxidation – psi drop/500 hr Max N/A
> Rust Test Pass
> Salt Fog Test, hours N/A
> Copper Corrosion 1b
> Dropping Point +260° C (+500° F)
> * The values shown are typical values and should not be used as quality
> control parameters to either
>

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Re: [GMCnet] Mobile 1 and CV joints ? [message #171558 is a reply to message #170993] Thu, 31 May 2012 17:51 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Cat has so many greases I don't know which to use so I stick with valvoline Synpower. I guess if I had a Cat it would tell me which one. Mine just meow and Hissss.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
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