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battery drain [message #170597] Tue, 22 May 2012 23:30 Go to next message
grif339 is currently offline  grif339   United States
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Still in first week of ownership of 75 Eleganza II. My chassis battery is draining down and can't find the cause. I disconnected the positive cable that goes to the coach from the chassis battery and got zero drain on the multi-meter. Hooked it up and had a 7 amp pull on the battery. Went thru each light, fuse, switch and found a couple of them that were turned on with bad bulbs. Now I'm down to a 1.44 Amp pull on battery and have no idea where it's coming from. I went thru the schematic and owners manual. I'm down to fuse #7 that according to the manual controls front left light, bathroom fan, and I believe the galley light(don't have it infront of me at this moment) Anyhow I've gone thru every circuit and fuse and can't seem to find what the cause is. Common problem? Something I'm missing? Thanks for any advice.

Kelly G 75 Eleganza II Central Iowa
Re: battery drain [message #170598 is a reply to message #170597] Tue, 22 May 2012 23:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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grif339 wrote on Tue, 22 May 2012 21:30

Still in first week of ownership of 75 Eleganza II. My chassis battery is draining down and can't find the cause....

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...I'm down to fuse #7 that according to the manual controls front left light, bathroom fan, and I believe the galley light (don't have it infront of me at this moment) Anyhow I've gone thru every circuit and fuse and can't seem to find what the cause is. Common problem? Something I'm missing? Thanks for any advice.


Chassis battery --> fuse #7 left light & bathroom fan ????

Are you talking _HOUSE_ battery?


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Re: battery drain [message #170609 is a reply to message #170597] Wed, 23 May 2012 06:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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grif339 wrote on Wed, 23 May 2012 00:30

Still in first week of ownership of 75 Eleganza II. My chassis battery is draining down and can't find the cause. I disconnected the positive cable that goes to the coach from the chassis battery and got zero drain on the multi-meter. Hooked it up and had a 7 amp pull on the battery. Went thru each light, fuse, switch and found a couple of them that were turned on with bad bulbs. Now I'm down to a 1.44 Amp pull on battery and have no idea where it's coming from. I went thru the schematic and owners manual. I'm down to fuse #7 that according to the manual controls front left light, bathroom fan, and I believe the galley light(don't have it infront of me at this moment) Anyhow I've gone thru every circuit and fuse and can't seem to find what the cause is. Common problem? Something I'm missing? Thanks for any advice.

Grif,

There is a nomenclature issue here that Mike just hit on...
- The Chassis battery (a term left over from other coaches built on truck chassis) is the battery that does the vehicle service - like start the engine and run most outside lights.
- The House (or coach) battery is the one that does all the inside stuff, lights, fans, reefer and starts the APU in your coach.

By your description, you are looking at a house battery issue. - True??

If it is the circuit that the head fan is on, that is a great candidate for this sort of a problem. If a brush is stuck, it can draw current and not run. So, check that one out.

Easy answer is to use some alligator clips to put a small light bulb across the fuse holder. It will probably light or at least glow. Now go chase the gremlins. Just keep one eye on that light bulb. That light can be on long leads so you can see it easily. I used to use a little noise maker, but my hearing went bad and it drove everybody else crazy.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] battery drain [message #170611 is a reply to message #170597] Wed, 23 May 2012 09:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powerjon is currently offline  powerjon   United States
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Kelly,
On the 12 VDC fuse block for the coach lighting and accessories the
end of the fuse block with the power feed is fuse #1. Fuse 1 provides
power to the bath vent ( the 6" vent fan if you still have the old
unit). The Left Front lamp, Front power vent and one side of the
Galley lamp. The other side of the galley lamp is controlled by a
switch at the entry door and that is on Fuse #3.

JR Wright
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GMC Eastern States
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78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan

On May 23, 2012, at 12:30 AM, Kelly wrote:

>
>
> Still in first week of ownership of 75 Eleganza II. My chassis
> battery is draining down and can't find the cause. I disconnected
> the positive cable that goes to the coach from the chassis battery
> and got zero drain on the multi-meter. Hooked it up and had a 7 amp
> pull on the battery. Went thru each light, fuse, switch and found a
> couple of them that were turned on with bad bulbs. Now I'm down to a
> 1.44 Amp pull on battery and have no idea where it's coming from. I
> went thru the schematic and owners manual. I'm down to fuse #7 that
> according to the manual controls front left light, bathroom fan, and
> I believe the galley light(don't have it infront of me at this
> moment) Anyhow I've gone thru every circuit and fuse and can't seem
> to find what the cause is. Common problem? Something I'm missing?
> Thanks for any advice.
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Re: [GMCnet] battery drain [message #170617 is a reply to message #170597] Wed, 23 May 2012 09:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tangerine is currently offline  Tangerine   United States
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On 5/23/2012 12:30 AM, Kelly wrote:
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> Still in first week of ownership of 75 Eleganza II. My chassis battery is draining down and can't find the cause. I disconnected the positive cable that goes to the coach from the chassis battery and got zero drain on the multi-meter. Hooked it up and had a 7 amp pull on the battery. Went thru each light, fuse, switch and found a couple of them that were turned on with bad bulbs. Now I'm down to a 1.44 Amp pull on battery and have no idea where it's coming from. I went thru the schematic and owners manual. I'm down to fuse #7 that according to the manual controls front left light, bathroom fan, and I believe the galley light(don't have it infront of me at this moment) Anyhow I've gone thru every circuit and fuse and can't seem to find what the cause is. Common problem? Something I'm missing? Thanks for any advice.
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Just a long shot but I would make sure that the battery boost switch is
not engaged. When engaged it will have a draw. But I think it would
drain both batteries.
Gary W. Mills (Livonia MI)
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Re: battery drain [message #170632 is a reply to message #170597] Wed, 23 May 2012 13:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You may have an add on propane leak detector which will draw a little. Our fridge draws a little too even when off.
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grif339 wrote on Tue, 22 May 2012 23:30

Still in first week of ownership of 75 Eleganza II. My chassis battery is draining down and can't find the cause. I disconnected the positive cable that goes to the coach from the chassis battery and got zero drain on the multi-meter. Hooked it up and had a 7 amp pull on the battery. Went thru each light, fuse, switch and found a couple of them that were turned on with bad bulbs. Now I'm down to a 1.44 Amp pull on battery and have no idea where it's coming from. I went thru the schematic and owners manual. I'm down to fuse #7 that according to the manual controls front left light, bathroom fan, and I believe the galley light(don't have it infront of me at this moment) Anyhow I've gone thru every circuit and fuse and can't seem to find what the cause is. Common problem? Something I'm missing? Thanks for any advice.



Wally Anderson
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75 Glenbrook
Re: battery drain [message #170637 is a reply to message #170632] Wed, 23 May 2012 14:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
grif339 is currently offline  grif339   United States
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Thanks for the assistance, the switch for the fan in the head was stuck, and the fan doesn't work, so I've isolated the problem.

Kelly G 75 Eleganza II Central Iowa
Re: battery drain [message #170662 is a reply to message #170597] Wed, 23 May 2012 17:55 Go to previous message
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Good that thing did not smoke..
1)The OEM style replacement bath fans can be had at www.appliedgmc.com or at www.gmcmotorhomeparts.com.
2)for saftey's sake stop disconnecting the positve cable. The correct protocol is to disconnect the negative cable. Reason is if the negative is connected and you are wrenching on the positive, any part of the chassis you might touch with the wrench on the positive will cause a direct short/ battery explosion. If you connect the negative last/disconnect first, the only thing you can short to is the positive battery terminal (unless you swing over to the breaker or shunt relay in the back of course). It's just a good protocol thing.


John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
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