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[GMCnet] 1976 Manuals [message #169968] Thu, 17 May 2012 08:56 Go to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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The 4-book set that was up a few weeks ago is back on eBay.

(http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270979165286)

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Re: [GMCnet] 1976 Manuals [message #170015 is a reply to message #169968] Thu, 17 May 2012 17:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Mac,

I read the listing and the guy that listed these didn’t know that those manuals will cover from 1973 to 1976 GMC's and the parts
books covers all GMC's.

Regards,
Rob M.
 

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From: D C *Mac* Macdonald

The 4-book set that was up a few weeks ago is back on eBay.

(http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270979165286)

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Re: [GMCnet] 1976 Manuals [message #170019 is a reply to message #170015] Thu, 17 May 2012 17:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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Well, Rob, the manuals listed will cover 75 and 76 exactly.

The is the first time I've seen X-7525 broken into 2 sections.
My original X-7525 is all in one book.

7525A and 7525B are maintenance manuals for the 75 and early 76
models. The X-7625 is the supplement for later 1976 production.
These are what I have for my 76. I have both hard copy manuals
and have printed them from the CD sold by a GMC member.

Yes, the other book is parts manual for ALL TZE coaches. I have
a very good reproduction (spiral bound) parts manual AND my own
printout from the CD.

They probably would be good for the 73 and 74 coaches as well,
but I don't know if they would state any differences between
those 73/74 and the 75/76 coaches.

I am sorely tempted to buy these, especially since the maint
manual is broken into two section.

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~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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> From: robmueller@iinet.net.au
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 08:44:33 +1000
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 1976 Manuals
>
> Mac,
>
> I read the listing and the guy that listed these didn’t know that those manuals will cover from 1973 to 1976 GMC's and the parts
> books covers all GMC's.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: D C *Mac* Macdonald
>
> The 4-book set that was up a few weeks ago is back on eBay.
>
> (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270979165286)
>
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~

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Re: [GMCnet] 1976 Manuals [message #170029 is a reply to message #170019] Thu, 17 May 2012 18:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Mac,

If I were you I'd save my money.

I have OEM X-7525, OEM X-7625, and OEM X-7725 Maintenance Manuals and an OEM 78Z Parts Book.

I have also have X-7525A and X-7525B Maintenance Manuals (they came with The Blue Streak).

Those manuals were sold by Cinnabar and when one compares them to the OEM manuals it is apparent that Cinnabar had the OEM manuals
reprinted from the scans.

The photos in those two manuals leave quite a bit to be desired. I have compared them and noted that the pictures in them are so
dark half the time you can't see what GMC intended you to see.

If you want two manuals just split the manuals you printed from scans into two sections. :-)

You do raise an interesting point; I have never seen a Maintenance Manual X-7425 but Bdub does have a scanned copy of it:

http://www.bdub.net/manuals/X7425/index.html

Obviously I'm not going through the two manuals to find the differences between the X-7425 and X-7525. Gene Dotson noted that his
X-7425 MM had a procedure to adjust the torsion bars from the one in X-7525. Upon review the procedure detailed in X-7525 would work
on a '73 or '74 model as well.

I don't know if it is standard practice in the automotive industry for revised copies of manuals to cover earlier vehicles but I can
state that in the aircraft industry it is. In other words a manual revised or published in 2012 for a product built in 2000 is
applicable. At least Hamilton Standards were.

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: D C *Mac* Macdonald

Well, Rob, the manuals listed will cover 75 and 76 exactly.

The is the first time I've seen X-7525 broken into 2 sections.
My original X-7525 is all in one book.

7525A and 7525B are maintenance manuals for the 75 and early 76
models. The X-7625 is the supplement for later 1976 production.
These are what I have for my 76. I have both hard copy manuals
and have printed them from the CD sold by a GMC member.

Yes, the other book is parts manual for ALL TZE coaches. I have
a very good reproduction (spiral bound) parts manual AND my own
printout from the CD.

They probably would be good for the 73 and 74 coaches as well,
but I don't know if they would state any differences between
those 73/74 and the 75/76 coaches.

I am sorely tempted to buy these, especially since the maint
manual is broken into two section.

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Re: [GMCnet] 1976 Manuals [message #170035 is a reply to message #170029] Thu, 17 May 2012 19:27 Go to previous message
emerystora is currently offline  emerystora   United States
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On May 17, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:

> Mac,
>
> If I were you I'd save my money.
>
> I have OEM X-7525, OEM X-7625, and OEM X-7725 Maintenance Manuals and an OEM 78Z Parts Book.
>
> I have also have X-7525A and X-7525B Maintenance Manuals (they came with The Blue Streak).
>
> Those manuals were sold by Cinnabar and when one compares them to the OEM manuals it is apparent that Cinnabar had the OEM manuals
> reprinted from the scans.
>
I have an original that I purchased from GM in 1981. It uses much thinner paper than the Cinnabar reproductions and that is the reason it is smaller. The photos are easy to read whereas the reproductions leave a lot to be desired.

Emery Stora


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