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Troubleshooting the Onan control board and LOP switch [message #169671] Mon, 14 May 2012 22:33 Go to next message
bhayes is currently offline  bhayes   United States
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The latest challenge on my GMC is to get the Onan working again. I purchased a Dinosaur control board from JimK about a year or so ago, and the Onan ran fine for a while (except for occasionally stalling, which is a separate issue). But now it refuses to continue running after the I let up on the Start switch.

I went through the troubleshooting steps at http://gmcmotorhome.info/generator.html#Starting. The Onan runs when I jumper terminals 9 and 5, and all of the voltages across terminals 10 and 1, 11 and 1, 8 and 11, and across the fuse all check out. I had previously disconnected the alternator/battery charger, and the Onan ran fine without it. It also has plenty of oil.

I tried to go through the LOP switch tests at http://gmcmotorhome.info/generator.html#switch, but I can't disconnect terminal 12 because the board I purchased has all of the pigtail wires soldered in place. Is there a way to test the LOP switch without removing terminal 12?

And as always, thanks for all of your help!

-B


Bryan Hayes
'76 Eleganza II
Salt Lake City, Utah
Re: Troubleshooting the Onan control board and LOP switch [message #169679 is a reply to message #169671] Mon, 14 May 2012 23:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bob de Kruyff   United States
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""Is there a way to test the LOP switch without removing terminal 12?

"" It's not too bad of a job to pull the terminal off the switch itself and either ground it or leave it off and see if the genny starts.


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
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Re: Troubleshooting the Onan control board and LOP switch [message #169680 is a reply to message #169671] Mon, 14 May 2012 23:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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Unplug the wire on the LOP a the switch.

Ken Burton - N9KB
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Re: Troubleshooting the Onan control board and LOP switch [message #169682 is a reply to message #169680] Mon, 14 May 2012 23:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken Burton wrote on Mon, 14 May 2012 21:17

Unplug the wire on the LOP a the switch.


Just make sure the wire remains isolated from everything... including ground.

The oil pressure switch applies a ground when the oil pressure is low. So if the disconnected wire is touching something that provides a low resistance to ground.... you get the idea.


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Re: Troubleshooting the Onan control board and LOP switch [message #169684 is a reply to message #169680] Mon, 14 May 2012 23:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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We had a discussion at Bean station about those Dinosaur boards.

One of the people at BS complained enough direct to Dinosaur that they made a mod the to a new board and sent it to him. One of the comments he received when talking the the technician was they have a high number of these boards returned. The fix he had them do was to change the resistor in series with the up to speed relay from 10 ohms to 23.5 ohms (two 47 ohm resistors in Parallel). He is still testing the "fixed" board and has no problems with it. He previously went through 3 boards from Dinosaur.

You can check the switch but I suspect that you have a bad relay and need to call and then return the board to Dinosaur.

I would call them.



Ken Burton - N9KB
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Re: Troubleshooting the Onan control board and LOP switch [message #169685 is a reply to message #169682] Mon, 14 May 2012 23:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I removed the LOP wire. With the Onan off, the resistance across the LOP switch was around 5 ohms (if I'm reading my digital multimeter correctly). I jumpered terminals 5 and 9, started it up, and the resistance went to 1, which I believe is infinity on this particular multimeter. I tried starting the Onan with the LOP switch disconnected and the wire not touching anything. Same problem--it turns over and starts, but stops as soon as I let up on the Start switch.

Bad board again?



Bryan Hayes
'76 Eleganza II
Salt Lake City, Utah
Re: Troubleshooting the Onan control board and LOP switch [message #169688 is a reply to message #169684] Mon, 14 May 2012 23:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken, thanks for the tip on the Dinosaur board. I'll give them a call.

Bryan Hayes
'76 Eleganza II
Salt Lake City, Utah
Re: Troubleshooting the Onan control board and LOP switch [message #170194 is a reply to message #169688] Sat, 19 May 2012 16:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is there an aftermarket low oil pressure switch for the Onan?

Bryan Hayes
'76 Eleganza II
Salt Lake City, Utah
Re: Troubleshooting the Onan control board and LOP switch [message #170197 is a reply to message #170194] Sat, 19 May 2012 17:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Never mind, found it.

Bryan Hayes
'76 Eleganza II
Salt Lake City, Utah
Re: Troubleshooting the Onan control board and LOP switch [message #170453 is a reply to message #169684] Mon, 21 May 2012 19:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"We had a discussion at Bean station about those Dinosaur boards.

One of the people at BS complained enough direct to Dinosaur that they made a mod the to a new board and sent it to him. One of the comments he received when talking the the technician was they have a high number of these boards returned. The fix he had them do was to change the resistor in series with the up to speed relay from 10 ohms to 23.5 ohms (two 47 ohm resistors in Parallel). He is still testing the "fixed" board and has no problems with it. He previously went through 3 boards from Dinosaur.

You can check the switch but I suspect that you have a bad relay and need to call and then return the board to Dinosaur."

Hello All!

I'm the one who worked with Dinosaur to test all my returned boards. You should have the registration card with the serial numbers of your returned boards.

The board they sent me which has worked since last July (going on 50+ hours of operation)was a special configuration. Serial number 073W0398. Ken detailed the work that Dino did above.

I would call Dinosaur ask for Chad Shumway, Tech Support & Engineering. Give him the serial numbers of your returned boards so they can check them out. Mention my custom board #073W0398 and see if that will fix your problem.

George (onan running like a champ, fingers crossed)Zhookoff
78 EL II
Atlanta
Re: Troubleshooting the Onan control board and LOP switch [message #172175 is a reply to message #170453] Tue, 05 June 2012 18:20 Go to previous message
bhayes is currently offline  bhayes   United States
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George, thanks for the follow-up. I talked to both Chris and Guy (company founder) at Dinosaur, and they're sending me another board. Glad to see that both Dinosaur and JimK stand behind their products.

Bryan Hayes
'76 Eleganza II
Salt Lake City, Utah
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