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Kudzu is currently offline  Kudzu   United States
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What is the best product to remove the glue from the sticker that made
up the coach's belt line? I've tried Goo-Gone, acetone, etc. I power
washed the whole thing and it expedited taking the flaky old sticker off
but it left behind the glue.

TIA

Dan in NC
Caregiver to a 1976 Eleganza II
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Re: [GMCnet] Glue removal from under OEM sticker... [message #169363 is a reply to message #169359] Sat, 12 May 2012 17:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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3M adhesive remover. Comes in a pint, quart, gallon, size container. Can be
purchased on line, just Google the name. It absolutely will not hurt your
paint. Stuff like MEKP and lacquer thinner will also take off the adhesive
and the underlying paint as well. There may be comparable products out
there, but this one has always worked for me, and I've been doing this kind
of stuff for a very long time.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403

On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Daniel Jarvis <TheJarvis@carolina.rr.com>wrote:

> What is the best product to remove the glue from the sticker that made
> up the coach's belt line? I've tried Goo-Gone, acetone, etc. I power
> washed the whole thing and it expedited taking the flaky old sticker off
> but it left behind the glue.
>
> TIA
>
> Dan in NC
> Caregiver to a 1976 Eleganza II
> "Tzetze Fly"
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Re: [GMCnet] Glue removal from under OEM sticker... [message #169380 is a reply to message #169363] Sat, 12 May 2012 19:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Advance has it in spray on, not sure if that would be effective?
*http://tinyurl.com/bvdymcc*

Dan in NC
Caregiver to a 1976 Eleganza II
"Tzetze Fly"

On 5/12/2012 6:37 PM, James Hupy wrote:
> 3M adhesive remover. Comes in a pint, quart, gallon, size container. Can be
> purchased on line, just Google the name. It absolutely will not hurt your
> paint. Stuff like MEKP and lacquer thinner will also take off the adhesive
> and the underlying paint as well. There may be comparable products out
> there, but this one has always worked for me, and I've been doing this kind
> of stuff for a very long time.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, OR
> 78 GMC Royale 403
>
> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Daniel Jarvis<TheJarvis@carolina.rr.com>wrote:
>
>> What is the best product to remove the glue from the sticker that made
>> up the coach's belt line? I've tried Goo-Gone, acetone, etc. I power
>> washed the whole thing and it expedited taking the flaky old sticker off
>> but it left behind the glue.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Dan in NC
>> Caregiver to a 1976 Eleganza II
>> "Tzetze Fly"
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Re: [GMCnet] Glue removal from under OEM sticker... [message #169416 is a reply to message #169363] Sun, 13 May 2012 10:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gmcrv1 is currently offline  gmcrv1   United States
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Jim,

Do you have the 3M part number for the adhesive remover? I know they make
at least two removers and one WILL flatten and eventually remove the paint.
I have used both. I believe the safe one to use is a decal adhesive
remover originally used to remove the adhesive under contact paper "woody
wagons".

Be sure you get the right one.

Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN



On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 5:37 PM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:

> 3M adhesive remover. Comes in a pint, quart, gallon, size container. Can be
> purchased on line, just Google the name. It absolutely will not hurt your
> paint. Stuff like MEKP and lacquer thinner will also take off the adhesive
> and the underlying paint as well. There may be comparable products out
> there, but this one has always worked for me, and I've been doing this kind
> of stuff for a very long time.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, OR
> 78 GMC Royale 403
>
> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Daniel Jarvis <TheJarvis@carolina.rr.com
> >wrote:
>
> > What is the best product to remove the glue from the sticker that made
> > up the coach's belt line? I've tried Goo-Gone, acetone, etc. I power
> > washed the whole thing and it expedited taking the flaky old sticker off
> > but it left behind the glue.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Dan in NC
> > Caregiver to a 1976 Eleganza II
> > "Tzetze Fly"
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Re: [GMCnet] Glue removal from under OEM sticker... [message #169421 is a reply to message #169416] Sun, 13 May 2012 11:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tom, I have an empty can down in the shop. I will get the number and post
it. All of these products will remove whatever kind of wax that you have on
your paint also, which might be the "flatter" appearance you speak of. IN
ANY EVENT, your experience might vary. It is good advise to always test
your paint in an area that is kind of hidden from view and see if there is
any color coming off onto your rag. Also, these "miracle fiber" cleaning
cloths are quite abrasive in their own right. I long for the day when we
still had cotton diapers around. They were absolutely the best wax
polishing cloths ever.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Tom Eckert <gmcrv1@gmail.com> wrote:

> Jim,
>
> Do you have the 3M part number for the adhesive remover? I know they make
> at least two removers and one WILL flatten and eventually remove the paint.
> I have used both. I believe the safe one to use is a decal adhesive
> remover originally used to remove the adhesive under contact paper "woody
> wagons".
>
> Be sure you get the right one.
>
> Tom Eckert N2VWN
> 73 Glacier
> Oakland, TN
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 5:37 PM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 3M adhesive remover. Comes in a pint, quart, gallon, size container. Can
> be
> > purchased on line, just Google the name. It absolutely will not hurt your
> > paint. Stuff like MEKP and lacquer thinner will also take off the
> adhesive
> > and the underlying paint as well. There may be comparable products out
> > there, but this one has always worked for me, and I've been doing this
> kind
> > of stuff for a very long time.
> > Jim Hupy
> > Salem, OR
> > 78 GMC Royale 403
> >
> > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Daniel Jarvis <
> TheJarvis@carolina.rr.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > What is the best product to remove the glue from the sticker that made
> > > up the coach's belt line? I've tried Goo-Gone, acetone, etc. I power
> > > washed the whole thing and it expedited taking the flaky old sticker
> off
> > > but it left behind the glue.
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Dan in NC
> > > Caregiver to a 1976 Eleganza II
> > > "Tzetze Fly"
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Re: [GMCnet] Glue removal from under OEM sticker... [message #169425 is a reply to message #169359] Sun, 13 May 2012 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think the product you're thinking of is 3M Decal and Stripe Remover. It's available on line, but is about $25 for a spray can.

If the coaches were painted with an Imron paint, I wonder if the regular adhesive remover may not work just fine. Never tried either, so just thinking out loud!


George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
Re: [GMCnet] Glue removal from under OEM sticker... [message #169431 is a reply to message #169416] Sun, 13 May 2012 13:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've had good luck with good old WD-40. You might try it on a spot.

Thanks

Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA


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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Glue removal from under OEM sticker...


> Jim,
>
> Do you have the 3M part number for the adhesive remover? I know they make
> at least two removers and one WILL flatten and eventually remove the
> paint.
> I have used both. I believe the safe one to use is a decal adhesive
> remover originally used to remove the adhesive under contact paper "woody
> wagons".
>
> Be sure you get the right one.
>
> Tom Eckert N2VWN
> 73 Glacier
> Oakland, TN
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 5:37 PM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 3M adhesive remover. Comes in a pint, quart, gallon, size container. Can
>> be
>> purchased on line, just Google the name. It absolutely will not hurt your
>> paint. Stuff like MEKP and lacquer thinner will also take off the
>> adhesive
>> and the underlying paint as well. There may be comparable products out
>> there, but this one has always worked for me, and I've been doing this
>> kind
>> of stuff for a very long time.
>> Jim Hupy
>> Salem, OR
>> 78 GMC Royale 403
>>
>> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Daniel Jarvis <TheJarvis@carolina.rr.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > What is the best product to remove the glue from the sticker that made
>> > up the coach's belt line? I've tried Goo-Gone, acetone, etc. I power
>> > washed the whole thing and it expedited taking the flaky old sticker
>> > off
>> > but it left behind the glue.
>> >
>> > TIA
>> >
>> > Dan in NC
>> > Caregiver to a 1976 Eleganza II
>> > "Tzetze Fly"
>> > _______________________________________________
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Re: [GMCnet] Glue removal from under OEM sticker... [message #169457 is a reply to message #169421] Sun, 13 May 2012 18:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Jim,

I agree on the cotton diapers as the best rags ever - the Pampers just
don't hold up when polishing my MG!

Yes, do check the number. I had one that worked great and thought I was
buying the same thing at a body shop supply house and it was much stronger
- took the paint of in the first swipe. Glad it wasn't a critical surface.

Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN


On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 11:15 AM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:

> Tom, I have an empty can down in the shop. I will get the number and post
> it. All of these products will remove whatever kind of wax that you have on
> your paint also, which might be the "flatter" appearance you speak of. IN
> ANY EVENT, your experience might vary. It is good advise to always test
> your paint in an area that is kind of hidden from view and see if there is
> any color coming off onto your rag. Also, these "miracle fiber" cleaning
> cloths are quite abrasive in their own right. I long for the day when we
> still had cotton diapers around. They were absolutely the best wax
> polishing cloths ever.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, OR
> 78 GMC Royale 403
>
> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Tom Eckert <gmcrv1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Jim,
> >
> > Do you have the 3M part number for the adhesive remover? I know they
> make
> > at least two removers and one WILL flatten and eventually remove the
> paint.
> > I have used both. I believe the safe one to use is a decal adhesive
> > remover originally used to remove the adhesive under contact paper "woody
> > wagons".
> >
> > Be sure you get the right one.
> >
> > Tom Eckert N2VWN
> > 73 Glacier
> > Oakland, TN
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 5:37 PM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > 3M adhesive remover. Comes in a pint, quart, gallon, size container.
> Can
> > be
> > > purchased on line, just Google the name. It absolutely will not hurt
> your
> > > paint. Stuff like MEKP and lacquer thinner will also take off the
> > adhesive
> > > and the underlying paint as well. There may be comparable products out
> > > there, but this one has always worked for me, and I've been doing this
> > kind
> > > of stuff for a very long time.
> > > Jim Hupy
> > > Salem, OR
> > > 78 GMC Royale 403
> > >
> > > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Daniel Jarvis <
> > TheJarvis@carolina.rr.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > What is the best product to remove the glue from the sticker that
> made
> > > > up the coach's belt line? I've tried Goo-Gone, acetone, etc. I power
> > > > washed the whole thing and it expedited taking the flaky old sticker
> > off
> > > > but it left behind the glue.
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > >
> > > > Dan in NC
> > > > Caregiver to a 1976 Eleganza II
> > > > "Tzetze Fly"
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Re: [GMCnet] Glue removal from under OEM sticker... [message #169484 is a reply to message #169359] Sun, 13 May 2012 22:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It was raining today so I didn't get a good chance to try the $10 spray
can I got from AutoZone. I did try it on a couple spot and if left for a
few minutes, started to soften the glue somewhat. So I am hopeful...

Dan in NC
Caregiver to a 1976 Eleganza II
"Tzetze Fly"

On 5/12/2012 6:03 PM, Daniel Jarvis wrote:
> What is the best product to remove the glue from the sticker that made
> up the coach's belt line? I've tried Goo-Gone, acetone, etc. I power
> washed the whole thing and it expedited taking the flaky old sticker off
> but it left behind the glue.
>
> TIA
>
> Dan in NC
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Re: [GMCnet] Glue removal from under OEM sticker... [message #169910 is a reply to message #169425] Wed, 16 May 2012 20:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GeorgeRud wrote on Sun, 13 May 2012 12:30

I think the product you're thinking of is 3M Decal and Stripe Remover. It's available on line, but is about $25 for a spray can.

If the coaches were painted with an Imron paint, I wonder if the regular adhesive remover may not work just fine. Never tried either, so just thinking out loud!


73-74 coaches are an enamel not Imron like 75+ so be careful. A good spot to use for the test area is where the stripes go under the front access doors.


Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
Re: [GMCnet] Glue removal from under OEM sticker... [message #169917 is a reply to message #169910] Wed, 16 May 2012 20:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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midlf wrote on Wed, 16 May 2012 18:21

GeorgeRud wrote on Sun, 13 May 2012 12:30

... If the coaches were painted with an Imron paint, I wonder if the regular adhesive remover may not work just fine. Never tried either, so just thinking out loud!


73-74 coaches are an enamel not Imron like 75+ so be careful. A good spot to use for the test area is where the stripes go under the front access doors.


I have been told that the very last coaches (1978) also did not get Imron.

I do know the paint on my '78 does NOT seem to be as good as I have heard Imron to be. But, due to the number of runs and stuff in what appears to be factory paint, I always put it down to poor quality control at the factory... it WAS the 70's you know.

Also, the decals used, seem to have different adhesives. The decals on '78 (Coachman installed) are MUCH easier to remove than the ones on the '77. The '77 has two different types of decals... I suspect the front were installed by GM and the rear stripes where put on my Coachman. Neither are easy to remove.

SO... the recommended adhesive remover would vary with what decal you are removing. Acetone seems to work well on the '78 Coachman stripe adhesive. Goo-Gone also works but it seems to be mostly acetone. I still do not know what works on other stripes.


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Re: [GMCnet] Glue removal from under OEM sticker... [message #169930 is a reply to message #169917] Wed, 16 May 2012 21:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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""I have been told that the very last coaches (1978) also did not get Imron""

???? Really


Bob de Kruyff
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Chandler, AZ
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I don't know about the rest of them, but ours got something that is
impervious to lacquer thinner.

Maybe not Imron, but just as good.

RonC

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>
> ""I have been told that the very last coaches (1978) also did not
> get Imron""
>
> ???? Really
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Re: [GMCnet] Glue removal from under OEM sticker... [message #169947 is a reply to message #169934] Wed, 16 May 2012 23:24 Go to previous message
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Lacquer thinner will not hurt polyurethane , imron, catlyzed enamels as long as the paint film is not trapped in the solvent for extended periods say by leaving a saturated rag laying on the panel. 3m adhesive remover works well on most films as do citrus based aerosol adhesive removers.

Sully
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On May 16, 2012, at 7:51 PM, rallymaster@juno.com wrote:

> I don't know about the rest of them, but ours got something that is
> impervious to lacquer thinner.
>
> Maybe not Imron, but just as good.
>
> RonC
>
> On Wed, 16 May 2012 21:47:49 -0500 Bob de Kruyff <NEXT2POOL@AOL.COM>
> writes:
>>
>>
>> ""I have been told that the very last coaches (1978) also did not
>> get Imron""
>>
>> ???? Really
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