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Thu, 10 May 2012 13:52  |
Rick
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I'm new to this forum and to the GMC so I hope this makes sense.
My new(old) '74 Painted Desert has a bad furnace (located under the kitchen sink).
I'm not sure what the brand or model it is, though I suspect it is a Suburban.
What brand and model would be the best replacement? And is there anything special required to compensate for the curved exterior wall.
Regards,
Rick D.
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC furnace [message #169153 is a reply to message #169146] |
Thu, 10 May 2012 14:56  |
Rick
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Thanks!
Sent from my iPad
On May 10, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Rick,
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> It sounds like you've been lurking for a while! GMCMotorhome.info is your friend. Check out these notes about replacing the furnace...
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> <http://gmcmotorhome.info/heat.html#solaire>
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> Larry Davick
> Fremont, California
> The Mystery Machine
> '76 (ish) Palm Beach
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick" <rsdahbugeye@gmail.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:52:20 AM
> Subject: [GMCnet] GMC furnace
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> I'm new to this forum and to the GMC so I hope this makes sense.
> My new(old) '74 Painted Desert has a bad furnace (located under the kitchen sink).
> I'm not sure what the brand or model it is, though I suspect it is a Suburban.
> What brand and model would be the best replacement? And is there anything special required to compensate for the curved exterior wall.
>
> Regards,
> Rick D.
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC furnace [message #169156 is a reply to message #169146] |
Thu, 10 May 2012 15:00 |
Rick
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So I'm thinking of getting a Suburban NT30 (SP?) any thoughts?
On May 10, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Rick,
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> It sounds like you've been lurking for a while! GMCMotorhome.info is your friend. Check out these notes about replacing the furnace...
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> <http://gmcmotorhome.info/heat.html#solaire>
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> Larry Davick
> Fremont, California
> The Mystery Machine
> '76 (ish) Palm Beach
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick" <rsdahbugeye@gmail.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:52:20 AM
> Subject: [GMCnet] GMC furnace
>
> I'm new to this forum and to the GMC so I hope this makes sense.
> My new(old) '74 Painted Desert has a bad furnace (located under the kitchen sink).
> I'm not sure what the brand or model it is, though I suspect it is a Suburban.
> What brand and model would be the best replacement? And is there anything special required to compensate for the curved exterior wall.
>
> Regards,
> Rick D.
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC furnace [message #169157 is a reply to message #169146] |
Thu, 10 May 2012 15:08 |
Bruce Hart
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Also check out the pricing at PPL RV supplies. Specify for ducted furnaces.
http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/rv-furnaces/trailer-heater-dimensions.htm
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Rick,
>
> It sounds like you've been lurking for a while! GMCMotorhome.info is your
> friend. Check out these notes about replacing the furnace...
>
> <http://gmcmotorhome.info/heat.html#solaire>
>
>
> Larry Davick
> Fremont, California
> The Mystery Machine
> '76 (ish) Palm Beach
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick" <rsdahbugeye@gmail.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:52:20 AM
> Subject: [GMCnet] GMC furnace
>
> I'm new to this forum and to the GMC so I hope this makes sense.
> My new(old) '74 Painted Desert has a bad furnace (located under the
> kitchen sink).
> I'm not sure what the brand or model it is, though I suspect it is a
> Suburban.
> What brand and model would be the best replacement? And is there anything
> special required to compensate for the curved exterior wall.
>
> Regards,
> Rick D.
>
> _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC furnace [message #169180 is a reply to message #169157] |
Thu, 10 May 2012 19:01 |
armandminnie
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When I redid my interior I converted my very poorly ducted furnace to a non-ducted one by altering the front cover and blocking the duct holes. Now it just blows out from the toe-kick on my cabinet. We have camped with temps in the upper 30F range and it worked plenty well. So, if you are not up for all of the effort to convert old duct work to a new furnace it can work.
Armand Minnie
Marana, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC furnace [message #169193 is a reply to message #169145] |
Thu, 10 May 2012 19:41 |
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| Rick wrote on Thu, 10 May 2012 11:52 |
I'm new to this forum and to the GMC so I hope this makes sense.
My new(old) '74 Painted Desert has a bad furnace (located under the kitchen sink).
I'm not sure what the brand or model it is, though I suspect it is a Suburban.
What brand and model would be the best replacement? And is there anything special required to compensate for the curved exterior wall. ...
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Welcome to the nut-house! 
As you stated in another message, the Suburban "NT" models are almost direct replacements for the original furnace. The newer furnaces need some modifications to fit. BUT as the are a little smaller, so it is easier than it could be.
As for BTU size, it has been argued that bigger is not always better due to furnace cycling issues. You might get better results with a smaller (BTU) model over a larger one... besides being cheaper to buy.
Yes, there is "special requirement" to compensate for the curved exterior wall. The "NT" models are designed to be placed directly against the wall for cooling air-flow reasons. You can mount it on a slanted base (tilting it to match the wall) or put a metal "back" on the new furnace. (I understand Suburban makes a kit for this.) I have done it both ways and think the level mounting with metal back is the better way to go -- due to space usage and ease of furnace servicing. (I could NOT take my Birch's furnace out due to the tilted mounting.)
If you do NOT tilt the furnace, make sure the final intake and exhaust tubes are long enough to make a good seal.
Here are pictures:
This is someone else's with a nice angled base (much better than mine):
<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6020-suburban-furnace-replace.html>
This is my '73 with a homemade metal back on a level base (You might notice that I am a wood butcher... and not a metal worker. But you get the idea...)
<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3995-furnace.html>
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC furnace [message #169205 is a reply to message #169145] |
Thu, 10 May 2012 20:33 |
GeorgeRud
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I believe that Jim Bounds has also been installing Atwood furnaces as replacements, with the controls and access available from a removable panel on the outside of the coach.
I will eventually get around to replacing the original furnace in my coach, and like the ease of hookups and maintenance from the removable outside panel, without having to fool around under the cabinets.
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC furnace [message #169262 is a reply to message #169193] |
Fri, 11 May 2012 14:36 |
Rick
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Thanks for all the recommendations!
I picked up a Suburban NT30SP today and look forward to making it fit. The project photos you linked are going to be a great help, some real creative ideas there.
Rick
On May 10, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Rick wrote on Thu, 10 May 2012 11:52
>> I'm new to this forum and to the GMC so I hope this makes sense.
>> My new(old) '74 Painted Desert has a bad furnace (located under the kitchen sink).
>> I'm not sure what the brand or model it is, though I suspect it is a Suburban.
>> What brand and model would be the best replacement? And is there anything special required to compensate for the curved exterior wall. ...
>
>
> Welcome to the nut-house! :twisted:
>
> As you stated in another message, the Suburban "NT" models are almost direct replacements for the original furnace. The newer furnaces need some modifications to fit. BUT as the are a little smaller, so it is easier than it could be.
>
> As for BTU size, it has been argued that bigger is not always better due to furnace cycling issues. You might get better results with a smaller (BTU) model over a larger one... besides being cheaper to buy.
>
> Yes, there is "special requirement" to compensate for the curved exterior wall. The "NT" models are designed to be placed directly against the wall for cooling air-flow reasons. You can mount it on a slanted base (tilting it to match the wall) or put a metal "back" on the new furnace. (I understand Suburban makes a kit for this.) I have done it both ways and think the level mounting with metal back is the better way to go -- due to space usage and ease of furnace servicing. (I could NOT take my Birch's furnace out due to the tilted mounting.)
>
> If you do NOT tilt the furnace, make sure the final intake and exhaust tubes are long enough to make a good seal.
>
> Here are pictures:
>
> This is someone else's with a nice angled base (much better than mine):
> <http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6020-suburban-furnace-replace.html>
>
> This is my '73 with a homemade metal back on a level base (You might notice that I am a wood butcher... and not a metal worker. But you get the idea...)
> <http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3995-furnace.html>
>
> --
> Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
> (#1)'73 26' exPainted D. -- (#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
> http://m000035.blogspot.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC furnace [message #169277 is a reply to message #169262] |
Fri, 11 May 2012 16:16 |
Mr ERFisher
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and here are a few that may have been linked
http://gmcmotorhome.info/heat.html#solaire
gene
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Rick <rsdahbugeye@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for all the recommendations!
> I picked up a Suburban NT30SP today and look forward to making it fit. The
> project photos you linked are going to be a great help, some real creative
> ideas there.
>
> Rick
>
>
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> On May 10, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Rick wrote on Thu, 10 May 2012 11:52
> >> I'm new to this forum and to the GMC so I hope this makes sense.
> >> My new(old) '74 Painted Desert has a bad furnace (located under the
> kitchen sink).
> >> I'm not sure what the brand or model it is, though I suspect it is a
> Suburban.
> >> What brand and model would be the best replacement? And is there
> anything special required to compensate for the curved exterior wall. ...
> >
> >
> > Welcome to the nut-house! :twisted:
> >
> > As you stated in another message, the Suburban "NT" models are almost
> direct replacements for the original furnace. The newer furnaces need some
> modifications to fit. BUT as the are a little smaller, so it is easier
> than it could be.
> >
> > As for BTU size, it has been argued that bigger is not always better due
> to furnace cycling issues. You might get better results with a smaller
> (BTU) model over a larger one... besides being cheaper to buy.
> >
> > Yes, there is "special requirement" to compensate for the curved
> exterior wall. The "NT" models are designed to be placed directly against
> the wall for cooling air-flow reasons. You can mount it on a slanted base
> (tilting it to match the wall) or put a metal "back" on the new furnace.
> (I understand Suburban makes a kit for this.) I have done it both ways
> and think the level mounting with metal back is the better way to go -- due
> to space usage and ease of furnace servicing. (I could NOT take my Birch's
> furnace out due to the tilted mounting.)
> >
> > If you do NOT tilt the furnace, make sure the final intake and exhaust
> tubes are long enough to make a good seal.
> >
> > Here are pictures:
> >
> > This is someone else's with a nice angled base (much better than mine):
> > <http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6020-suburban-furnace-replace.html>
> >
> > This is my '73 with a homemade metal back on a level base (You might
> notice that I am a wood butcher... and not a metal worker. But you get the
> idea...)
> > <http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3995-furnace.html>
> >
> > --
> > Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
> > (#1)'73 26' exPainted D. -- (#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77
> 23' Birchaven Side Bath
> > http://m000035.blogspot.com
> > _______________________________________________
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