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[GMCnet] Charger versus Charger [message #169103] Wed, 09 May 2012 23:36 Go to next message
Steve Jess is currently offline  Steve Jess   United States
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I've been following the discussion regarding replacing the "buzz box" with a newer box with four stage charging.

What happens when you add solar cells and their charger to the system? Do the two systems get along or must you disable the solar power when plugged into shore power?

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Re: [GMCnet] Charger versus Charger [message #169112 is a reply to message #169103] Thu, 10 May 2012 06:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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Steve Jess wrote on Thu, 10 May 2012 00:36

I've been following the discussion regarding replacing the "buzz box" with a newer box with four stage charging.

What happens when you add solar cells and their charger to the system? Do the two systems get along or must you disable the solar power when plugged into shore power?

Regards,

Steve,

No

More Complete answer follows.

Modern battery maintenance systems have several strategies for monitoring the state of charge of the bank to which they are attached. All of these involve some phase that assess the state of charge and continues based on that charging system's criteria. Most quality solar controllers fit this description and do this as well. So, if you are connected to shore power or running the APU, the solar system controller will understand that the bank it is attached to has a state of charge that has some (or no) requirement for additional charge and will adjust itself accordingly. The same thing will happen if the main engine is running. The alternator systems in our coaches are at best described as primitive. They supply only one high charging voltage to to the system, much like the buzz-box or other outdated charging systems. When any good controller, be it solar or line powered, comes up against this, it will simply shut down and wait until it senses that the bank is ready for some attention.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Charger versus Charger [message #169120 is a reply to message #169112] Thu, 10 May 2012 07:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Steve, they get a long together just fine. Makes for "life is good". And with those LED lights there will less work by both.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Charger versus Charger [message #169202 is a reply to message #169103] Thu, 10 May 2012 20:18 Go to previous message
Steve Jess is currently offline  Steve Jess   United States
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Thanks to Matt Colie and Dan Gregg for their timely answers. I'm a long way from getting solar panels, but it's good to know there won't be any problems.
My question was prompted by reading about how voltage regulator ICs work. Supposedly you can get 1 amp at 5 volts from a 7805, but if you try to get 2 amps by running two 7805s in parallel, they might start fighting each other and the whole circuit can shut down. I wondered if the same was true of battery chargers. I'm glad to know that's not the case.

Steve Jess - Boise, ID
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> Steve Jess wrote on Thu, 10 May 2012 00:36
> > I've been following the discussion regarding replacing the "buzz box" with a newer box with four stage charging.
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> > What happens when you add solar cells and their charger to the system? Do the two systems get along or must you disable the solar power when plugged into shore power?
> >
> > Regards,
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> Steve,
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> No
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> More Complete answer follows.
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> Modern battery maintenance systems have several strategies for monitoring the state of charge of the bank to which they are attached. All of these involve some phase that assess the state of charge and continues based on that charging system's criteria. Most quality solar controllers fit this description and do this as well. So, if you are connected to shore power or running the APU, the solar system controller will understand that the bank it is attached to has a state of charge that has some (or no) requirement for additional charge and will adjust itself accordingly. The same thing will happen if the main engine is running. The alternator systems in our coaches are at best described as primitive. They supply only one high charging voltage to to the system, much like the buzz-box or other outdated charging systems. When any good controller, be it solar or line powered, comes up against this, it will simply shut down and wait until it senses that the bank is ready f
or
> some attention.
>
> Matt
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> Matt & Mary Colie
> '73 Glacier 23 Chaumi?re (say show-me-air) Just about as stock as you will find
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit


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