| Should I put in a sewer dump? [message #169025] |
Wed, 09 May 2012 09:11  |
Keith V
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the city is redoing the streets and sewers. I am thinking that now may be a good time to put a dump in.
I'd like to put it close to the street so I can access it easy.
the driveway is kinda far from the sewer line.
this way I could just pull up to the curb, yes, I'd be on the wrong side of the street...and dump away.
Is this a bad idea?
Is there a recommended access cover/fitting?
Remember this is minnesota, I need to deal with 3 feet of frost depth.
thanks
Keith
Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
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| Re: Should I put in a sewer dump? [message #169027 is a reply to message #169025] |
Wed, 09 May 2012 09:27  |
Bob de Kruyff
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| Keith V wrote on Wed, 09 May 2012 08:11 |
the city is redoing the streets and sewers. I am thinking that now may be a good time to put a dump in.
I'd like to put it close to the street so I can access it easy.
the driveway is kinda far from the sewer line.
this way I could just pull up to the curb, yes, I'd be on the wrong side of the street...and dump away.
Is this a bad idea?
Is there a recommended access cover/fitting?
Remember this is minnesota, I need to deal with 3 feet of frost depth.
thanks
Keith
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A friend did something like that in Anchorage and it worked well. I don't think frost depth is a big deal when dealing with a sewer access. I suspect local codes may be the biggest issue. Things seem pretty lax in Alaska compared to what you may run into.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: Should I put in a sewer dump? [message #169029 is a reply to message #169025] |
Wed, 09 May 2012 09:38 |
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mike miller
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| Keith V wrote on Wed, 09 May 2012 07:11 |
the city is redoing the streets and sewers. I am thinking that now may be a good time to put a dump in.
I'd like to put it close to the street so I can access it easy.
the driveway is kinda far from the sewer line.
this way I could just pull up to the curb, yes, I'd be on the wrong side of the street...and dump away.
Is this a bad idea?
Is there a recommended access cover/fitting?
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It is nice to be able to come back from a trip and dump before all the 'stuff' settles.
If you have a macerator, most of us can just find the sewer clean out (it should be where the sewer line leaves the house) and put a screw cap on it... if it doesn't have one already.
Without a macerator: While a sewer clean-out close enough to somewhere I could park the coach so I could gravity dump, would be nice, I am not sure if I would spend THAT much to have one. There are two public dump sites within a couple of miles and it allows me to 'stir' the 'stuff' in the tanks before dumping.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
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| Re: Should I put in a sewer dump? [message #169033 is a reply to message #169025] |
Wed, 09 May 2012 10:00 |
Chr$
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I use the cleanout in my front yard to dump. It is about 20 ft from the curb, but I have a Black Garden Hose that is labeled for just that. Black water. It stays at the house. When I dump, I just pull the 8 ft or so of hose from my macerator out of it's tube under the bumper, screw them together, and pump away. This also gives me the ability to flush the tank with the garden hose as well.
Closest normal dump to me wants $15 per load. No Thanks.
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
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| Re: Should I put in a sewer dump? [message #169036 is a reply to message #169025] |
Wed, 09 May 2012 10:09 |
GMC Cruse
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| Keith V wrote on Wed, 09 May 2012 10:11 |
the city is redoing the streets and sewers. I am thinking that now may be a good time to put a dump in.
I'd like to put it close to the street so I can access it easy.
the driveway is kinda far from the sewer line.
this way I could just pull up to the curb, yes, I'd be on the wrong side of the street...and dump away.
Is this a bad idea?
Is there a recommended access cover/fitting?
Remember this is minnesota, I need to deal with 3 feet of frost depth.
thanks
Keith
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You would probably have to locate it outside of the road right of way and on your property. That could make it some distance from the curb. Typically communities require cleanouts every 90-100 feet, so I also would recommend you call it a cleanout, that way it should be easier to get approval. Check with your city, but a lot of cities require an access housing with an at grade cover and the pipe cap in the housing below the grade cover. Here we require one such as the JR Smith 4100 series.
http://www.jrsmith.com/products/cleanout/cleanouts_4100_4103.htm
That type of cover prevents the pipe cap from getting damage from lawnmowers, snow plows, etc.
Mike K.
'75 PB
Southeast Michigan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Should I put in a sewer dump? [message #169058 is a reply to message #169026] |
Wed, 09 May 2012 13:38 |
jhbridges
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And, put the cap below 'Lawnmower Level"
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
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On May 9, 2012, at 7:11 AM, Keith V <my427v8@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> the city is redoing the streets and sewers. I am thinking that now may be a good time to put a dump in.
> I'd like to put it close to the street so I can access it easy.
> the driveway is kinda far from the sewer line.
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> this way I could just pull up to the curb, yes, I'd be on the wrong side of the street...and dump away.
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> Is this a bad idea?
> Is there a recommended access cover/fitting?
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> Remember this is minnesota, I need to deal with 3 feet of frost depth.
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> thanks
> Keith
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| Re: [GMCnet] Should I put in a sewer dump? [message #169062 is a reply to message #169058] |
Wed, 09 May 2012 14:27 |
Ken Burton
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| Johnny Bridges wrote on Wed, 09 May 2012 13:38 |
And, put the cap below 'Lawnmower Level"
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
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You could add a pad lock to the cap and charge $10.00 to anyone wants to open it just like Pilot/FlyingJ
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: Should I put in a sewer dump? [message #169110 is a reply to message #169025] |
Thu, 10 May 2012 05:33 |
lqqkatjon
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in MN. the sewers are pretty deep. usually they enter into a basement, below the poured floor. far under the frost line, witch could be 4 feet in winter.
I would recommend that you install the plumbing from the outside of the home, to the inside of the home, and tie it to your sewer lines/drain in the basement. and do as described, put some steel/concrete protector around over the pipe so it is not damaged by hitting it or driving on it. that way if that sewer dump breaks in frost conditions. your home sewer is safe
the frost in MN will do some odd things to items buried in the ground. if you have a T off your sewer, going through the frost line, it can heave up or down, breaking your sewer line below.
that way if that sewer dump breaks in frost conditions. your home sewer is safe.
if you have to have a sewer line replaced in MN. it is a major, major deal. Big money.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: Should I put in a sewer dump? [message #169388 is a reply to message #169110] |
Sat, 12 May 2012 21:38 |
midlf
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| Jon wrote on Thu, 10 May 2012 05:33 |
in MN. the sewers are pretty deep. usually they enter into a basement, below the poured floor. far under the frost line, witch could be 4 feet in winter.
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I believe they are deep in MN (and WI) as they want to run basement drains into the sewer. In our WI house out in the country w/ septic we pump the basement up into the sewer line. The sewer line to the septic tank is only 18" below grade and about 20' long. The line from the septic tank to the field is the same depth and about 100' long. We, nor anyone else around here, has ever had a problem with any of their sewer or septic lines freezing up. Can you say "Hot S@#t!"
Check with a local plumber as they have all the knowledge necessary for your area, frost and code wise. However do tell them straight out that you want a "clean-out". Just sorta ask if you had one if you could dump your black tank in it.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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