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Need a Carpenter in Dallas [message #167262] Mon, 23 April 2012 09:40 Go to next message
jhb1 is currently offline  jhb1   Canada
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Hi
I just bought a Honda generator to replace the Troll (Onan) but it is in Dallas and I am up north looking for someone to crate this up for me Jim Walker was kind enough to look at at and store the generator for me but I need to have it packaged and shipped. I am waiting on a couple of quotes from packaging services in Dallas.
Any help would be greatly appreciated

Thanks


John H. Bell
77 Royale; QuadBag,Manny OneTon,Honda EV4010, FITech
Montreal Qc.
Re: [GMCnet] Need a Carpenter in Dallas [message #167266 is a reply to message #167262] Mon, 23 April 2012 10:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You really don't have to crate it. If you can find a small pallet to mount it to and then just wrap it with some plastic wrap it should ship fine.

Emery Stora

On Apr 23, 2012, at 8:40 AM, jhb1 wrote:

>
>
> Hi
> I just bought a Honda generator to replace the Troll (Onan) but it is in Dallas and I am up north looking for someone to crate this up for me Jim Walker was kind enough to look at at and store the generator for me but I need to have it packaged and shipped. I am waiting on a couple of quotes from packaging services in Dallas.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated
>
> Thanks
> --
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Re: Need a Carpenter in Dallas [message #167279 is a reply to message #167262] Mon, 23 April 2012 12:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey John. I should be able to whip up a pallet or crate if you can wait a couple of weeks. I have a bunch of family coming in until May 4.

How or who are you going to ship it? Do you have the specs for what they need? As Emery says, a lot of stuff can be shipped just bolted on a pallet. Or I could build a box around it to protect it. Or maybe I could bring it to Amaana Colonies in Sept Smile

I haven't met Jim Walker yet, and would like to.
My email address is in my profile on the net.
cell is twoonefourfivethreesevenzerozerotwozero

Be glad to help if I can.


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Re: [GMCnet] Need a Carpenter in Dallas [message #167315 is a reply to message #167279] Mon, 23 April 2012 17:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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John,

If Don is willing to bring it to Amana it would probably be a good idea for
you to come down and get it.

You could remove your Onan and stick the Honda in there and Canadian Customs
would be none the wiser!

You should have seen all the paperwork Ken Burton and I had to organize to
get the Olds engine from Ray McHugh back into the USA, I hate to think what
you'll have to go through to get the Honda into Canada! Plus what it will
cost you in shipping, duty, and taxes!

I just went to MapQuest and found that it's 1077 miles from Montreal to the
Amana Colonies and using 9 mpg for your GMC it will cost $450 for gas.

C'mon to the Convention!

Regards,
Rob M.


-----Original Message-----
From: Don Adams

Hey John. I should be able to whip up a pallet or crate if you can wait a
couple of weeks. I have a bunch of family coming in until May 4.

How or who are you going to ship it? Do you have the specs for what they
need? As Emery says, a lot of stuff can be shipped just bolted on a pallet.
Or I could build a box around it to protect it. Or maybe I could bring it
to Amaana Colonies in Sept :)

I haven't met Jim Walker yet, and would like to.
My email address is in my profile on the net.
cell is twoonefourfivethreesevenzerozerotwozero

Be glad to help if I can.
--
Don
Dallas, TX

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Re: [GMCnet] Need a Carpenter in Dallas [message #167321 is a reply to message #167315] Mon, 23 April 2012 18:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob

I would love to go to the convention but still working and the better half works for McGill Unveristy so vacations are June July and August. Possibly a week in the winter so no conventions for me until I retire or win the lottery.

John

Robert Mueller wrote on Mon, 23 April 2012 18:31

John,

If Don is willing to bring it to Amana it would probably be a good idea for
you to come down and get it.

You could remove your Onan and stick the Honda in there and Canadian Customs
would be none the wiser!

You should have seen all the paperwork Ken Burton and I had to organize to
get the Olds engine from Ray McHugh back into the USA, I hate to think what
you'll have to go through to get the Honda into Canada! Plus what it will
cost you in shipping, duty, and taxes!

I just went to MapQuest and found that it's 1077 miles from Montreal to the
Amana Colonies and using 9 mpg for your GMC it will cost $450 for gas.

C'mon to the Convention!
]





John H. Bell
77 Royale; QuadBag,Manny OneTon,Honda EV4010, FITech
Montreal Qc.
Re: Need a Carpenter in Dallas [message #167323 is a reply to message #167279] Mon, 23 April 2012 18:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Don
If you can do this for me it will make my life a lot easier I have been trying to get quotes to crate this all day some people are nuts. I have quotes ranging from 200 to 390 just to crate and shipping seems pretty consistent at around 180- 200
I will give you a call around 7:30 your time

John

Don A wrote on Mon, 23 April 2012 13:46


Hey John. I should be able to whip up a pallet or crate if you can wait a couple of weeks. I have a bunch of family coming in until May 4.

How or who are you going to ship it? Do you have the specs for what they need? As Emery says, a lot of stuff can be shipped just bolted on a pallet. Or I could build a box around it to protect it. Or maybe I could bring it to Amaana Colonies in Sept Smile

I haven't met Jim Walker yet, and would like to.
My email address is in my profile on the net.
cell is twoonefourfivethreesevenzerozerotwozero

Be glad to help if I can.



John H. Bell
77 Royale; QuadBag,Manny OneTon,Honda EV4010, FITech
Montreal Qc.
Re: [GMCnet] Need a Carpenter in Dallas [message #167331 is a reply to message #167321] Mon, 23 April 2012 18:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob,
John & I work at the same shop. We both also bring lots of stuff into Canada from the US. It is much easier than going from Canada to the US. All we normally require is a bill of sale.

The parts I brought back from Marcus Only required a bill of sale and the contact info of the seller. The customs agent barely blinked and passed me through with no fees to pay.

Les Burt
Montreal



On 2012-04-23, at 7:16 PM, jhb1 <jhbmjk@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Rob
>
> I would love to go to the convention but still working and the better half works for McGill Unveristy so vacations are June July and August. Possibly a week in the winter so no conventions for me until I retire or win the lottery.
>
> John
>
> Robert Mueller wrote on Mon, 23 April 2012 18:31
>> John,
>>
>> If Don is willing to bring it to Amana it would probably be a good idea for
>> you to come down and get it.
>>
>> You could remove your Onan and stick the Honda in there and Canadian Customs
>> would be none the wiser!
>>
>> You should have seen all the paperwork Ken Burton and I had to organize to
>> get the Olds engine from Ray McHugh back into the USA, I hate to think what
>> you'll have to go through to get the Honda into Canada! Plus what it will
>> cost you in shipping, duty, and taxes!
>>
>> I just went to MapQuest and found that it's 1077 miles from Montreal to the
>> Amana Colonies and using 9 mpg for your GMC it will cost $450 for gas.
>>
>> C'mon to the Convention!
>> ]
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Need a Carpenter in Dallas [message #167339 is a reply to message #167331] Mon, 23 April 2012 19:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Les,

Because I was importing an engine complicated matters greatly.

At one time Ray was going to bring the engine, trans, and final drive to the
USA for me. Below you will find an email discussing what I was told was
required.

**************************************************************************

Ray,

I apologize that it has taken me SO LONG to get back to you, however, since
I received your messages back in June noting that you would be willing to
bring the engine, transmission, and final drive down to the USA I have been
working on finding out what is required to get it across the border. Believe
you me it has been a struggle to find and talk to the right people! On
Friday I FINALLY got to talk to the US Customs Office at the Bluewater
Bridge border crossing as I believe that is where you will cross the border.
I wanted to speak to someone there so that you could speak to the same
person I did. I spoke to Supervisor Stoffel. I told him the following:

The parts were removed from a fire damaged GMC Motorhome manufactured in
Pontiac, Michigan. I told him I didn't know the year but it was between
1973-1977.

The engine was a Oldsmobile 455 made in Lansing, Michigan

The transmission was an Oldsmobile TH-425 made in Lansing, Michigan

The final drive was an Oldsmobile 3.07 to 1 made in Lansing, Michigan

You would be delivering it to a friend's home.

I would be installing it in my 1975 GMC Motorhome

He told me that as long as the declared value was less than $2000 it would
be considered a Third Party Informal Entry. I have attached a copy of a
revised Bill of Sale reflecting a price of $1500 for all three items; I
trust you will be amenable to signing that document. Also note that I have
added VIN number for your GMC, the serial numbers for the engine and
transmission. I have attached a document Oldsmobile 455 Engine Serial Number
Information; this document details where to find it. The transmission serial
number is on a small aluminum tag on the side; I have attached a photo one
on a transmission I have here in Australia.

Supervisor Stoffel noted you would need to provide a completed EPA form
3520-21 United States Environmental Protection Agency Engine Declaration
Form / Importation of Engines, Vehicles, and Equipment Subject to Federal
Air Pollution Regulations (copy attached). You would tick block A.
Heavy-Duty highway engines (for use in motor vehicles with gross vehicle
weight rating above 8500 pounds). Since the engine was manufactured by GM in
the USA it meets emission standards in effect at that time.

You will need to provide a completed Department of Transportation form HS-7
(copy attached) Declaration Importation of Motor Vehicles and Motor Vehicle
Equipment Subject to Federal Motor Vehicle Safety, Bumper, and Theft
Protection Standards. Since it is over 25 years old it is exempt.

You will need to provide a completed Customs and Border Protection form 7523
Entry Manifest of Merchandise Free of Duty, Carrier's Certificate and
Release. Since the declared value is under $2000.00 there will be no duty.

You will need to provide a copy of the Ontario, Canada Title or Registration
Documents for the GMC from which the parts were removed.

You will need to provide the serial number of the engine. See attached copy
of Oldsmobile 455 Engine Serial Number Information

You will need to provide the serial number of the transmission - See
attached photo Transmission serial number tag

I have attached a copy of my Texas Drivers License in case Customs might
want to see it.

I have requested a friend of mine in Houston scan a copy of the Texas Title
for my GMC and will forward it to you also. For the record it is a 1975 GMC
outfitted by Avion and carries VIN365V100426 and is also powered by an
Oldsmobile 455.

I have attached a map showing where the engine would need to be delivered
to. As you can see it is 30 miles west of the Indy 500 Speedway.

Blaine Merrell

101 Way West Airpark
Bainbridge, IN 46105-9449
Tel: 765-522-3241
email: dsekula@tds.net

Blaine has the tools and equipment to remove the engine, transmission, and
final drive from the bed of your pickup.

Naturally if you still would be willing to deliver the engine I would be
more than happy to share your gasoline costs for the trip; let me know how
much you would like.

I will call you Monday evening to discuss this.

Regards,
Rob

************************************************************************

As it turned out Ray didn't come to the USA and Ken Burton went up and got
it for me. He had all the documentation and to make absolutely sure that he
wouldn't have any problems bringing the engine back into the USA on the way
into Canada Ken stopped at US Customs and they reviewed the paperwork and
blessed it.

Ken got lucky and when he returned with the engine the customs agent on duty
was the same lady he had shown all the forms to on the way into Canada and
she waved him through with no problems.

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Les Burt


Rob,
John & I work at the same shop. We both also bring lots of stuff into Canada
from the US. It is much easier than going from Canada to the US. All we
normally require is a bill of sale.

The parts I brought back from Marcus Only required a bill of sale and the
contact info of the seller. The customs agent barely blinked and passed me
through with no fees to pay.

Les Burt
Montreal



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Re: [GMCnet] Need a Carpenter in Dallas [message #167347 is a reply to message #167339] Mon, 23 April 2012 19:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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All I can say is I'm glad I'm Canadian.

I have brought engine's and transmissions into the US in previous years and all I did was state that they were unserviceable and being used as cores that were worth less than 100$. They let me through with no hassles.

Les Burt
Montreal



On 2012-04-23, at 8:21 PM, "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:

> Les,
>
> Because I was importing an engine complicated matters greatly.
>
> At one time Ray was going to bring the engine, trans, and final drive to the
> USA for me. Below you will find an email discussing what I was told was
> required.
>
> **************************************************************************
>
> Ray,
>
> I apologize that it has taken me SO LONG to get back to you, however, since
> I received your messages back in June noting that you would be willing to
> bring the engine, transmission, and final drive down to the USA I have been
> working on finding out what is required to get it across the border. Believe
> you me it has been a struggle to find and talk to the right people! On
> Friday I FINALLY got to talk to the US Customs Office at the Bluewater
> Bridge border crossing as I believe that is where you will cross the border.
> I wanted to speak to someone there so that you could speak to the same
> person I did. I spoke to Supervisor Stoffel. I told him the following:
>
> The parts were removed from a fire damaged GMC Motorhome manufactured in
> Pontiac, Michigan. I told him I didn't know the year but it was between
> 1973-1977.
>
> The engine was a Oldsmobile 455 made in Lansing, Michigan
>
> The transmission was an Oldsmobile TH-425 made in Lansing, Michigan
>
> The final drive was an Oldsmobile 3.07 to 1 made in Lansing, Michigan
>
> You would be delivering it to a friend's home.
>
> I would be installing it in my 1975 GMC Motorhome
>
> He told me that as long as the declared value was less than $2000 it would
> be considered a Third Party Informal Entry. I have attached a copy of a
> revised Bill of Sale reflecting a price of $1500 for all three items; I
> trust you will be amenable to signing that document. Also note that I have
> added VIN number for your GMC, the serial numbers for the engine and
> transmission. I have attached a document Oldsmobile 455 Engine Serial Number
> Information; this document details where to find it. The transmission serial
> number is on a small aluminum tag on the side; I have attached a photo one
> on a transmission I have here in Australia.
>
> Supervisor Stoffel noted you would need to provide a completed EPA form
> 3520-21 United States Environmental Protection Agency Engine Declaration
> Form / Importation of Engines, Vehicles, and Equipment Subject to Federal
> Air Pollution Regulations (copy attached). You would tick block A.
> Heavy-Duty highway engines (for use in motor vehicles with gross vehicle
> weight rating above 8500 pounds). Since the engine was manufactured by GM in
> the USA it meets emission standards in effect at that time.
>
> You will need to provide a completed Department of Transportation form HS-7
> (copy attached) Declaration Importation of Motor Vehicles and Motor Vehicle
> Equipment Subject to Federal Motor Vehicle Safety, Bumper, and Theft
> Protection Standards. Since it is over 25 years old it is exempt.
>
> You will need to provide a completed Customs and Border Protection form 7523
> Entry Manifest of Merchandise Free of Duty, Carrier's Certificate and
> Release. Since the declared value is under $2000.00 there will be no duty.
>
> You will need to provide a copy of the Ontario, Canada Title or Registration
> Documents for the GMC from which the parts were removed.
>
> You will need to provide the serial number of the engine. See attached copy
> of Oldsmobile 455 Engine Serial Number Information
>
> You will need to provide the serial number of the transmission - See
> attached photo Transmission serial number tag
>
> I have attached a copy of my Texas Drivers License in case Customs might
> want to see it.
>
> I have requested a friend of mine in Houston scan a copy of the Texas Title
> for my GMC and will forward it to you also. For the record it is a 1975 GMC
> outfitted by Avion and carries VIN365V100426 and is also powered by an
> Oldsmobile 455.
>
> I have attached a map showing where the engine would need to be delivered
> to. As you can see it is 30 miles west of the Indy 500 Speedway.
>
> Blaine Merrell
>
> 101 Way West Airpark
> Bainbridge, IN 46105-9449
> Tel: 765-522-3241
> email: dsekula@tds.net
>
> Blaine has the tools and equipment to remove the engine, transmission, and
> final drive from the bed of your pickup.
>
> Naturally if you still would be willing to deliver the engine I would be
> more than happy to share your gasoline costs for the trip; let me know how
> much you would like.
>
> I will call you Monday evening to discuss this.
>
> Regards,
> Rob
>
> ************************************************************************
>
> As it turned out Ray didn't come to the USA and Ken Burton went up and got
> it for me. He had all the documentation and to make absolutely sure that he
> wouldn't have any problems bringing the engine back into the USA on the way
> into Canada Ken stopped at US Customs and they reviewed the paperwork and
> blessed it.
>
> Ken got lucky and when he returned with the engine the customs agent on duty
> was the same lady he had shown all the forms to on the way into Canada and
> she waved him through with no problems.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Les Burt
>
>
> Rob,
> John & I work at the same shop. We both also bring lots of stuff into Canada
> from the US. It is much easier than going from Canada to the US. All we
> normally require is a bill of sale.
>
> The parts I brought back from Marcus Only required a bill of sale and the
> contact info of the seller. The customs agent barely blinked and passed me
> through with no fees to pay.
>
> Les Burt
> Montreal
>
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Need a Carpenter in Dallas [message #167365 is a reply to message #167347] Mon, 23 April 2012 22:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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""All I can say is I'm glad I'm Canadian.

I have brought engine's and transmissions into the US in previous years and all I did was state that they were unserviceable and being used as cores that were worth less than 100$. They let me through with no hassles.

Les Burt
Montreal

""

Les, I'm a Canadian myself and spent most of my life in a border town. We quickly get adept on what to say and not to say and what the hot buttons are. I have seen people on either side use one wrong word and it's all over Smile
I'm surprised Rob isn't in jail--ha ha


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
Re: [GMCnet] Need a Carpenter in Dallas [message #167368 is a reply to message #167365] Mon, 23 April 2012 23:12 Go to previous message
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Bob,

Ken must be as perceptive as you so he volunteered to pickup the engine! ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob de Kruyff

Les, I'm a Canadian myself and spent most of my life in a border town. We
quickly get adept on what to say and not to say and what the hot buttons
are. I have seen people on either side use one wrong word and it's all over
:)
I'm surprised Rob isn't in jail--ha ha
--
Bob

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