| Pictures of Rockwell AL Manifold Installation [message #166539] |
Mon, 16 April 2012 20:03  |
Jon payne
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Hi all,
I finally posted the pics of the Rockwell install. I noted some quality escapes as you will see. Sorry I did not take any pics of the gaskets installed on the intake prior to installation! For sure that was one of the more important steps to highlight being the concerns with the gaskets slipping. Anyway if you properly glue the gaskets on with 3M 08001 and install 3/8" x 2" bolts (heads cut off) on each end you should have no issues with the gaskets slipping. Oh, and I used Dick Patterson's gaskets with block-off plates.
Anyway, please see below link to the pictures and let me know what you guys think. Comments most welcome!
Jon
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=43848&title=rockwell-aluminum-inta&cat=6061
Jon Payne
76 Palm Beach
Westfield,IN
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| Re: Pictures of Rockwell AL Manifold Installation [message #166544 is a reply to message #166539] |
Mon, 16 April 2012 20:43  |
Dennis S
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Jon,
Looks good! Thank you for the photos -- great reference.
-How soon after changing will you do an oil change?
-Will the new heater hose adapter for the intake manifold have a restrictor?
-did the AC compressor bracket bolt on OK?
Dennis
| Jon Payne wrote on Mon, 16 April 2012 20:03 |
Hi all,
I finally posted the pics of the Rockwell install. I noted some quality escapes as you will see. Sorry I did not take any pics of the gaskets installed on the intake prior to installation! For sure that was one of the more important steps to highlight being the concerns with the gaskets slipping. Anyway if you properly glue the gaskets on with 3M 08001 and install 3/8" x 2" bolts (heads cut off) on each end you should have no issues with the gaskets slipping. Oh, and I used Dick Patterson's gaskets with block-off plates.
Anyway, please see below link to the pictures and let me know what you guys think. Comments most welcome!
Jon
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=43848&title=rockwell-aluminum-inta&cat=6061
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Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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| Re: Pictures of Rockwell AL Manifold Installation [message #166554 is a reply to message #166539] |
Mon, 16 April 2012 21:25 |
Carl S.
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| Jon Payne wrote on Mon, 16 April 2012 18:03 |
Hi all,
I finally posted the pics of the Rockwell install. I noted some quality escapes as you will see. Sorry I did not take any pics of the gaskets installed on the intake prior to installation! For sure that was one of the more important steps to highlight being the concerns with the gaskets slipping. Anyway if you properly glue the gaskets on with 3M 08001 and install 3/8" x 2" bolts (heads cut off) on each end you should have no issues with the gaskets slipping. Oh, and I used Dick Patterson's gaskets with block-off plates.
Anyway, please see below link to the pictures and let me know what you guys think. Comments most welcome!
Jon
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=43848&title=rockwell-aluminum-inta&cat=6061
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Awesome pics, Jon. Very helpful. Thanks for being so specific on the sealers used and the problem areas. Most of us would have a good guess at what "gorilla snot" is, but it is helpful that you listed it by it's proper name, 3M 08001. This is what this forum is all about.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pictures of Rockwell AL Manifold Installation [message #166555 is a reply to message #166554] |
Mon, 16 April 2012 21:33 |
James Hupy
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Gorrilla Snot is also known as 'Yellow Peril" here in the Pacific
Northwest. If you get it on your hands, you will wear it off or remove the
outer layer of skin to remove it. Wear gloves. It is the best stuff for
this application. I also like Yamabond #4 for similar applications and it
is silver colored when cured.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Carl Stouffer <carljr3b@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Jon Payne wrote on Mon, 16 April 2012 18:03
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I finally posted the pics of the Rockwell install. I noted some quality
> escapes as you will see. Sorry I did not take any pics of the gaskets
> installed on the intake prior to installation! For sure that was one of
> the more important steps to highlight being the concerns with the gaskets
> slipping. Anyway if you properly glue the gaskets on with 3M 08001 and
> install 3/8" x 2" bolts (heads cut off) on each end you should have no
> issues with the gaskets slipping. Oh, and I used Dick Patterson's gaskets
> with block-off plates.
> >
> > Anyway, please see below link to the pictures and let me know what you
> guys think. Comments most welcome!
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=43848&title=rockwell-aluminum-inta&cat=6061
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> Awesome pics, Jon. Very helpful. Thanks for being so specific on the
> sealers used and the problem areas. Most of us would have a good guess at
> what "gorilla snot" is, but it is helpful that you listed it by it's proper
> name, 3M 08001. This is what this forum is all about.
> --
> Carl S.
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pictures of Rockwell AL Manifold Installation [message #166560 is a reply to message #166544] |
Mon, 16 April 2012 21:56 |
Gary Worobec
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Yes, unless they changed the bolt hole you will have to modify your A-6 A/C
bracket to mount the top bolt to the new manifold. It's off by half a bolt
hole. This may have been corrected if the manifold is V.2. or V.3. I cut the
tab off of my bracket and then welded a new piece on. I'll send you a pic
offline.
Thanks
Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA
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From: "Dennis Sexton" <dennisfsexton@aol.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Pictures of Rockwell AL Manifold Installation
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> Jon,
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> Looks good! Thank you for the photos -- great reference.
>
> -How soon after changing will you do an oil change?
>
> -Will the new heater hose adapter for the intake manifold have a
> restrictor?
>
> -did the AC compressor bracket bolt on OK?
>
> Dennis
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> Jon Payne wrote on Mon, 16 April 2012 20:03
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I finally posted the pics of the Rockwell install. I noted some quality
>> escapes as you will see. Sorry I did not take any pics of the gaskets
>> installed on the intake prior to installation! For sure that was one of
>> the more important steps to highlight being the concerns with the gaskets
>> slipping. Anyway if you properly glue the gaskets on with 3M 08001 and
>> install 3/8" x 2" bolts (heads cut off) on each end you should have no
>> issues with the gaskets slipping. Oh, and I used Dick Patterson's gaskets
>> with block-off plates.
>>
>> Anyway, please see below link to the pictures and let me know what you
>> guys think. Comments most welcome!
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=43848&title=rockwell-aluminum-inta&cat=6061
>
>
> --
> Dennis S
> 73 Painted Desert 230
> Germantown, TN
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| Re: Pictures of Rockwell AL Manifold Installation [message #166565 is a reply to message #166544] |
Mon, 16 April 2012 22:33 |
Jon payne
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Hi Dennis,
I will change the oil again soon. I have not driven her yet do to the coolant leak at the heater hose connection. As i mentioned on one of the pictures I posted I had to order another adapter. So to answer your question I am still using the original fitting with the restrictor and new adaptor does not have a restrictor, just adding an adaptor to reduce it down to 1/2 in. Regarding the AC Compressor, it bolted up just fine, no issues to report there.
Jon
Jon Payne
76 Palm Beach
Westfield,IN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pictures of Rockwell AL Manifold Installation [message #166588 is a reply to message #166571] |
Tue, 17 April 2012 08:07 |
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Yes,
I would get that interior of the block spanking clean and then apply the
Glyptal red insulating varnish - ads the return of oil to the pan as the
surface will almost be like glass. I would think it may also help reduce
the amount of gunk build up.
But, there are those in here that know much more then I do - hopefully they
will jump in.
Good Luck,
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:01 AM, David H. Jarvis <jarvis210@shaw.ca> wrote:
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> While this is apart, would there be any advantage to paint the inside of
> the block with Glyptal?
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pictures of Rockwell AL Manifold Installation [message #166591 is a reply to message #166571] |
Tue, 17 April 2012 08:16 |
powerjon
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That is an excellant idea, but Glyptal is only possible on a block
that has cleaned and scrubbed before final assembly. You cannot get
the valley area clean enough when R&Ring the manifold for the stuff to
stick. Besides that you also need to clean up the oil drain back
holes and I would not be grinding on an motor and contaminate it.
Grinding residue is death on bearings.
JR Wright
GMC Great Laker MHC
GMC Eastern States
GMCMHI
78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
On Apr 17, 2012, at 1:01 AM, David H. Jarvis wrote:
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> While this is apart, would there be any advantage to paint the
> inside of the block with Glyptal?
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| Re: Pictures of Rockwell AL Manifold Installation [message #166594 is a reply to message #166565] |
Tue, 17 April 2012 08:49 |
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| Jon Payne wrote on Mon, 16 April 2012 22:33 |
Hi Dennis,
I will change the oil again soon. I have not driven her yet do to the coolant leak at the heater hose connection. As i mentioned on one of the pictures I posted I had to order another adapter. So to answer your question I am still using the original fitting with the restrictor and new adaptor does not have a restrictor, just adding an adaptor to reduce it down to 1/2 in. Regarding the AC Compressor, it bolted up just fine, no issues to report there.
Jon
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Jon,
Thank you
-- when I removed my intake I was worried about how much carbon from the turkey tray may have fallen into the oil gallies as well as how much (if any) anti-freeze coolant may have entered -- so I decided to do a couple of quick oil changes afterwards.
Dennis
Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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| Re: Pictures of Rockwell AL Manifold Installation [message #166803 is a reply to message #166539] |
Thu, 19 April 2012 09:02 |
JohnL455
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As long as gravity is still a law, and as long as the oil pickup tube is staying submerged in oil, I see only downside to Gyptol in a low RPM engine. Only would conisider it on a sanitary clean preped engine block on a stand, but not in motorhome installation. Reminds me of a 70s Ford conversion van my friend had that rusted out EVEN sooner than most and was dealer rustproofed with a fake Ziebart type material. We opened the doors to find sheets and clumps of dryed crusty material fallen off laying in the bottom of the doors and panels. It had blocked all the drain holes and was holding water and more dirt. The rust was only relieving the clog.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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