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| [GMCnet] Brake lines [message #165470] |
Thu, 05 April 2012 14:08  |
Dolph Santorine
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I'm in process on the rear brakes on my coach.
To replace the lines or not to? That is the question.
At the risk of being completely ignorant, I've gotta ask.
The lines have little exterior rust, look good inside, and all (save for one) of the nuts came out.
Opinions
Dolph
DE N8JPC
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 GMC 26' Palm Beach
TZE167V100820
1976 GMC 26' Donor Coach
TZE166V101610
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| Re: [GMCnet] Brake lines [message #165473 is a reply to message #165470] |
Thu, 05 April 2012 14:31  |
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mike miller
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| Dolph Santorine wrote on Thu, 05 April 2012 12:08 |
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To replace the lines or not to? That is the question.
At the risk of being completely ignorant, I've gotta ask.
The lines have little exterior rust, look good inside, and all (save for one) of the nuts came out.
Opinions...
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Hoses: Replace unless you KNOW they have been replaced. (I like JimB's braided hoses.)
Lines: How long do YOU plan on using the coach?
I plan on replacing the ones on my "keeper" coach, but not on the coach I am using today. (Like yours the lines "look" ok.)
Replace with what?
If not in high rust area, steel line have lasted 30 years. There is no reason why new steel lines would not last as long. Up until recently, Stainless, lines would be the choice for high rust areas, but there is now "Poly-Armour" lines <http://www.agscompany.com/faq/10> That seem to be the best choice for most do-it-yourself applications.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
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| Re: [GMCnet] Brake lines [message #165499 is a reply to message #165470] |
Thu, 05 April 2012 20:20 |
midlf
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| Dolph Santorine wrote on Thu, 05 April 2012 14:08 |
The lines have little exterior rust, look good inside, and all (save for one) of the nuts came out.
Opinions
Dolph
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My lines were leaking and needed to be replaced. All the leaks were from rust and were located were UNDER the line to frame clamps. Unscrew some of the clamps in the rustier areas and see how the line looks underneath the clamp.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Brake lines [message #165507 is a reply to message #165499] |
Thu, 05 April 2012 21:48 |
Dolph Santorine
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Thanks for all the feedback.
The local parts emporium has Poly-Armour in stock, so I'll be replacing them all.
I picked up the Eastwood flare tool, too.
Dolph Santorine
Dolph@DolphSantorine.com
Excuse me for not being my usual wordy and sporadically verbose self. This message is sent from my iPhone.
No trees were killed in the sending of this message and few long dead dinosaurs were involved. A large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
On Apr 5, 2012, at 9:20 PM, Steve Southworth <midlf@centurytel.net> wrote:
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> Dolph Santorine wrote on Thu, 05 April 2012 14:08
>> The lines have little exterior rust, look good inside, and all (save for one) of the nuts came out.
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>> Opinions
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>> Dolph
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> My lines were leaking and needed to be replaced. All the leaks were from rust and were located were UNDER the line to frame clamps. Unscrew some of the clamps in the rustier areas and see how the line looks underneath the clamp.
> --
> Steve Southworth
> 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
> 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
> Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Brake lines [message #165519 is a reply to message #165517] |
Thu, 05 April 2012 23:38 |
Dolph Santorine
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Bob:
Missed your second email.
Here's the tool I purchased:
http://www.eastwood.com/professional-brake-tubing-flaring-tool.html?utm_content=25304&utm_campaign=GoogleSean02&utm_source=Google&utm_medi um=Merchant-Centre&SRCCODE=1SE0756
The guys on the GMC list like it, and on the Cadillac list LOVE it., so I have a nice addition to my toolbox.
Dolph
On Apr 5, 2012, at 11:47 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:
> Dolph,
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> If you have not double flared tubing before I would highly recommend you
> practice until you are good at it.
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> You don't want bad flares on your brake lines!
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> Regards,
> Rob M.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dolph Santorine
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> Thanks for all the feedback.
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> The local parts emporium has Poly-Armour in stock, so I'll be replacing them
> all.
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> I picked up the Eastwood flare tool, too.
>
> Dolph
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| Re: [GMCnet] Brake lines [message #165538 is a reply to message #165519] |
Fri, 06 April 2012 08:32 |
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USAussie
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Dolph,
That is the same kit I have in Sydney, it IS a PROFESSIONAL flaring tool and
produces PERECT flares.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dolph Santorine
Bob:
Missed your second email.
Here's the tool I purchased:
http://www.eastwood.com/professional-brake-tubing-flaring-tool.html?utm_cont
ent=25304&utm_campaign=GoogleSean02&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=Merchant-Ce
ntre&SRCCODE=1SE0756
The guys on the GMC list like it, and on the Cadillac list LOVE it., so I
have a nice addition to my toolbox.
Dolph
On Apr 5, 2012, at 11:47 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:
> Dolph,
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> If you have not double flared tubing before I would highly recommend you
> practice until you are good at it.
>
> You don't want bad flares on your brake lines!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
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Regards,
Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Brake lines [message #165560 is a reply to message #165519] |
Fri, 06 April 2012 12:21 |
Robert Burkitt
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Dolph -
I like that tool, it looks like it has a lot of capability. Because I use
stainless tubing for most of my projects I like the Mastercool 71300 or more
complete 71475 hydraulic flaring tool which works well in spite of the
work-hardening of stainless steel. I have the 71300 tool and use .028" wall
304L tubing, usually in straight lengths from The Right Stuff Detailing in
Westerville (Columbus), Ohio. The .032" hydraulic tubing that I can get from
local sources is more difficult to double flare.
http://www.toolsdelivered.com/Mastercool-71300-Air-Conditioning-Refrigeration-Tubing-Tools-Flaring-Swaging-Tools
I would recommend a bit of practice before depending on being able to
produce perfect double flares every time. Cutting and preparing the end of
the tubing has a big effect on the flare that is produced. A sharp wheel in
the tubing cutter plus reaming the inside and outside of the square end is
key to success. Plain carbon steel tubing is cheap so practice is not
expensive, that is not the case with stainless.
My plan for your original lines is to take them to The Right Stuff so they
can create a pattern to make lines for the GMC. They have computerized
pattern making and bending equipment and can double flare stainless tubing
in a matter of seconds.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dolph Santorine" <dolph@dolphsantorine.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Brake lines
> Bob:
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> Missed your second email.
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> Here's the tool I purchased:
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> http://www.eastwood.com/professional-brake-tubing-flaring-tool.html?utm_content=25304&utm_campaign=GoogleSean02&utm_source=Google&utm_medi um=Merchant-Centre&SRCCODE=1SE0756
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> The guys on the GMC list like it, and on the Cadillac list LOVE it., so I
> have a nice addition to my toolbox.
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>
> Dolph
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> On Apr 5, 2012, at 11:47 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:
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>> Dolph,
>>
>> If you have not double flared tubing before I would highly recommend you
>> practice until you are good at it.
>>
>> You don't want bad flares on your brake lines!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rob M.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dolph Santorine
>>
>> Thanks for all the feedback.
>>
>> The local parts emporium has Poly-Armour in stock, so I'll be replacing
>> them
>> all.
>>
>> I picked up the Eastwood flare tool, too.
>>
>> Dolph
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Brake lines [message #165565 is a reply to message #165470] |
Fri, 06 April 2012 12:51 |
Keith V
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Doesn't Jim K sell those?
Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
75 ex Royale GMC
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| Re: [GMCnet] Brake lines [message #165696 is a reply to message #165499] |
Sat, 07 April 2012 20:23 |
midlf
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| midlf wrote on Thu, 05 April 2012 20:20 |
My lines were leaking and needed to be replaced. All the leaks were from rust and were located were UNDER the line to frame clamps. Unscrew some of the clamps in the rustier areas and see how the line looks underneath the clamp.
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I forgot where I got that idea from. It was in this photo album.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=3901
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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