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| Re: [GMCnet] Coach damaged in Dallas Tornado [message #165396 is a reply to message #165375] |
Wed, 04 April 2012 22:09   |
Don A
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<<<< I've heard it is Bob McLaughlin's coach. >>>>
Yes
Charles Wersal confirmed that.
" Yes that is his coach. Damage to the coach storage building and the house.
Windows out of the house in three bed rooms and some roof damage. Front and side windows out
of the coach and a board through the door. Bob and Beverly are both OK. No injuries. I think
Bob said someone got in a closet and someone in a tub and rode the storm out. Lost main power
to the house. It was just restored when I talked to him.
Charles"
Don Adams Dallas, TX
'76 26' Glenbrook, '90 Sidekick
rebuilt by R Archer, powered by J Bounds, Koba
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coach damaged in Dallas Tornado [message #165402 is a reply to message #165326] |
Wed, 04 April 2012 23:32 |
RadioActiveGMC
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Of course we are all very happy they made it out safe. So this isn't a joke or meant to be funny, but by the pic it looks like the GMC ended up in much better shape then the house. If so maybe they can use it as temp shelter.
***"Gettin There"-1973 23' Sequoia-
Michael, Onans smell, "Go solar/wind power!"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coach damaged in Dallas Tornado [message #165429 is a reply to message #165396] |
Thu, 05 April 2012 08:15 |
k2gkk
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Just a reminder to folks who may be in the path of one
of these storms.
One of the great ways to protect yourself is to put on
a motorcycle or even bicycle helmet.
Not a 100% solution, obviously, but since a large portion
of the deaths and injuries in tornados are due to flying
debris, anything option that can provide protection to
your head and brain is worth using. Broken legs, arms,
and such will heal, but head injuries tend to be permanent!
Judy and I have been through one of these (3 May '99) and
the house literally came down around us. No injuries, but I
sure continue to kick myself because I didn't think to put
our motorcycle helmets on as well as taking refuge in a
hastily built shelter in the laundry room!
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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: dj.adams@att.net
> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 22:09:12 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Coach damaged in Dallas Tornado
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> <<<< I've heard it is Bob McLaughlin's coach. >>>>
>
>
> Yes
> Charles Wersal confirmed that.
>
> " Yes that is his coach. Damage to the coach storage building and the house.
> Windows out of the house in three bed rooms and some roof damage. Front and side windows out
> of the coach and a board through the door. Bob and Beverly are both OK. No injuries. I think
> Bob said someone got in a closet and someone in a tub and rode the storm out. Lost main power
> to the house. It was just restored when I talked to him.
> Charles"
>
> --
> Don
> Dallas, TX
> 1976 26' Glenbrook
> rebuilt by R Archer
> powered by J Bounds, Koba
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coach damaged in Dallas Tornado [message #165506 is a reply to message #165429] |
Thu, 05 April 2012 21:48 |
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May i ask, would it be better to get in a car or gmc at that, and take off down the road and out run it.,.?
I agree with the helmet theory i keep one even in the car at times for
i have had a head injury before from a head on hit on me from a car going 60 mph My head hit the side window and top of door
wearing a helmet in a car is not as crazy as it seems. If in snow, rain, low vision, etc.
do you not think you can out run one of these, they only move about 40 mph over land but 212 mph in circles.
thank you best regards mickey ( ; - [))-{_-}=
On Apr 5, 2012, at 6:15 AM, D C *Mac* Macdonald wrote:
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> Just a reminder to folks who may be in the path of one
> of these storms.
>
> One of the great ways to protect yourself is to put on
> a motorcycle or even bicycle helmet.
>
> Not a 100% solution, obviously, but since a large portion
> of the deaths and injuries in tornados are due to flying
> debris, anything option that can provide protection to
> your head and brain is worth using. Broken legs, arms,
> and such will heal, but head injuries tend to be permanent!
>
> Judy and I have been through one of these (3 May '99) and
> the house literally came down around us. No injuries, but I
> sure continue to kick myself because I didn't think to put
> our motorcycle helmets on as well as taking refuge in a
> hastily built shelter in the laundry room!
>
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> ~~ k2gkk @ hotmail dot com ~~
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> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
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>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> From: dj.adams@att.net
>> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 22:09:12 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Coach damaged in Dallas Tornado
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>> <<<< I've heard it is Bob McLaughlin's coach. >>>>
>>
>>
>> Yes
>> Charles Wersal confirmed that.
>>
>> " Yes that is his coach. Damage to the coach storage building and the house.
>> Windows out of the house in three bed rooms and some roof damage. Front and side windows out
>> of the coach and a board through the door. Bob and Beverly are both OK. No injuries. I think
>> Bob said someone got in a closet and someone in a tub and rode the storm out. Lost main power
>> to the house. It was just restored when I talked to him.
>> Charles"
>>
>> --
>> Don
>> Dallas, TX
>> 1976 26' Glenbrook
>> rebuilt by R Archer
>> powered by J Bounds, Koba
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coach damaged in Dallas Tornado [message #165508 is a reply to message #165506] |
Thu, 05 April 2012 21:51 |
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In a big tornado in Wichita Fall, TX back in the
early 1970s, over half of the deaths happened to
people who were trying to flee in their cars! I
am pretty sure this is a typical result.
A vehicle is virtually a non-survivable place to
be in a tornado!
DEFINITELY NON-RECOMMENDED FOR SAFETY!!!
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> From: mickeysss@me.com
> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 19:48:24 -0700
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Coach damaged in Dallas Tornado
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> May i ask, would it be better to get in a car or gmc at that, and take off down the road and out run it.,.?
> I agree with the helmet theory i keep one even in the car at times for
> i have had a head injury before from a head on hit on me from a car going 60 mph My head hit the side window and top of door
> wearing a helmet in a car is not as crazy as it seems. If in snow, rain, low vision, etc.
> do you not think you can out run one of these, they only move about 40 mph over land but 212 mph in circles.
> thank you best regards mickey ( ; - [))-{_-}=
>
>
>
> On Apr 5, 2012, at 6:15 AM, D C *Mac* Macdonald wrote:
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> >
> > Just a reminder to folks who may be in the path of one
> > of these storms.
> >
> > One of the great ways to protect yourself is to put on
> > a motorcycle or even bicycle helmet.
> >
> > Not a 100% solution, obviously, but since a large portion
> > of the deaths and injuries in tornados are due to flying
> > debris, anything option that can provide protection to
> > your head and brain is worth using. Broken legs, arms,
> > and such will heal, but head injuries tend to be permanent!
> >
> > Judy and I have been through one of these (3 May '99) and
> > the house literally came down around us. No injuries, but I
> > sure continue to kick myself because I didn't think to put
> > our motorcycle helmets on as well as taking refuge in a
> > hastily built shelter in the laundry room!
> >
> > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> > ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coach damaged in Dallas Tornado [message #165535 is a reply to message #165506] |
Fri, 06 April 2012 08:17 |
Marsha
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It's never recommended to try to out run them. They change directions before you even realize what's going on. They can develop sister tornadoes (think of something like conjoined twins) that can make contact with the ground anywhere around. Vehicles are tossed around like a bag of marshmallows during these storms. The wind get up under them and throws them, even if you aren't in the direct path of the funnel itself.
Your best bet it underground. Next is in something well attached to the ground, unfortunately most house don't qualify for this.
Take it from someone who's lost 2 complete houses around her and the pieces of many others. When you think there might be one coming, hide like it's the devil coming for your soul.
Marsha
--- On Thu, 4/5/12, mickey's space ship shuttle <mickeysss@me.com> wrote:
From: mickey's space ship shuttle <mickeysss@me.com>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Coach damaged in Dallas Tornado
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Thursday, April 5, 2012, 9:48 PM
May i ask, would it be better to get in a car or gmc at that, and take off down the road and out run it.,.?
I agree with the helmet theory i keep one even in the car at times for
i have had a head injury before from a head on hit on me from a car going 60 mph My head hit the side window and top of door
wearing a helmet in a car is not as crazy as it seems. If in snow, rain, low vision, etc.
do you not think you can out run one of these, they only move about 40 mph over land but 212 mph in circles.
thank you best regards mickey ( ; - [))-{_-}=
On Apr 5, 2012, at 6:15 AM, D C *Mac* Macdonald wrote:
>
> Just a reminder to folks who may be in the path of one
> of these storms.
>
> One of the great ways to protect yourself is to put on
> a motorcycle or even bicycle helmet.
>
> Not a 100% solution, obviously, but since a large portion
> of the deaths and injuries in tornados are due to flying
> debris, anything option that can provide protection to
> your head and brain is worth using. Broken legs, arms,
> and such will heal, but head injuries tend to be permanent!
>
> Judy and I have been through one of these (3 May '99) and
> the house literally came down around us. No injuries, but I
> sure continue to kick myself because I didn't think to put
> our motorcycle helmets on as well as taking refuge in a
> hastily built shelter in the laundry room!
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> ~~ k2gkk @ hotmail dot com ~~
> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> From: dj.adams@att.net
>> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 22:09:12 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Coach damaged in Dallas Tornado
>>
>>
>> <<<< I've heard it is Bob McLaughlin's coach. >>>>
>>
>>
>> Yes
>> Charles Wersal confirmed that.
>>
>> " Yes that is his coach. Damage to the coach storage building and the house.
>> Windows out of the house in three bed rooms and some roof damage. Front and side windows out
>> of the coach and a board through the door. Bob and Beverly are both OK. No injuries. I think
>> Bob said someone got in a closet and someone in a tub and rode the storm out. Lost main power
>> to the house. It was just restored when I talked to him.
>> Charles"
>>
>> --
>> Don
>> Dallas, TX
>> 1976 26' Glenbrook
>> rebuilt by R Archer
>> powered by J Bounds, Koba
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coach damaged in Dallas Tornado [message #230105 is a reply to message #165535] |
Sun, 17 November 2013 17:44 |
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tornado info in the past. god help those in it's path, now average 166 miles per hour to over 200. From peoria, on over all washington county still warnings up to 65 sighted from chicago to kentucky and Hopkins county 65 tornados seen. 3 dead now 37 injured.
this is when the gmc is a life boat if it is still in one shape. mickey anaheim ca. 77 palm beach life boat.
On Apr 6, 2012, at 6:17 AM, Marsha wrote:
> It's never recommended to try to out run them. They change directions before you even realize what's going on. They can develop sister tornadoes (think of something like conjoined twins) that can make contact with the ground anywhere around. Vehicles are tossed around like a bag of marshmallows during these storms. The wind get up under them and throws them, even if you aren't in the direct path of the funnel itself.
> Your best bet it underground. Next is in something well attached to the ground, unfortunately most house don't qualify for this.
> Take it from someone who's lost 2 complete houses around her and the pieces of many others. When you think there might be one coming, hide like it's the devil coming for your soul.
> Marsha
>
> --- On Thu, 4/5/12, mickey's space ship shuttle <mickeysss@me.com> wrote:
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> From: mickey's space ship shuttle <mickeysss@me.com>
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Coach damaged in Dallas Tornado
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Thursday, April 5, 2012, 9:48 PM
>
>
>
> May i ask, would it be better to get in a car or gmc at that, and take off down the road and out run it.,.?
>
> I agree with the helmet theory i keep one even in the car at times for
>
> i have had a head injury before from a head on hit on me from a car going 60 mph My head hit the side window and top of door
>
> wearing a helmet in a car is not as crazy as it seems. If in snow, rain, low vision, etc.
>
> do you not think you can out run one of these, they only move about 40 mph over land but 212 mph in circles.
>
> thank you best regards mickey ( ; - [))-{_-}=
>
>
>
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> On Apr 5, 2012, at 6:15 AM, D C *Mac* Macdonald wrote:
>
>>
>> Just a reminder to folks who may be in the path of one
>> of these storms.
>>
>> One of the great ways to protect yourself is to put on
>> a motorcycle or even bicycle helmet.
>>
>> Not a 100% solution, obviously, but since a large portion
>> of the deaths and injuries in tornados are due to flying
>> debris, anything option that can provide protection to
>> your head and brain is worth using. Broken legs, arms,
>> and such will heal, but head injuries tend to be permanent!
>>
>> Judy and I have been through one of these (3 May '99) and
>> the house literally came down around us. No injuries, but I
>> sure continue to kick myself because I didn't think to put
>> our motorcycle helmets on as well as taking refuge in a
>> hastily built shelter in the laundry room!
>>
>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
>> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
>> ~~ k2gkk @ hotmail dot com ~~
>> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
>> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
>> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
>> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
>> ~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
>> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
>> _______________
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>>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>>> From: dj.adams@att.net
>>> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 22:09:12 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Coach damaged in Dallas Tornado
>>>
>>>
>>> <<<< I've heard it is Bob McLaughlin's coach. >>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes
>>> Charles Wersal confirmed that.
>>>
>>> " Yes that is his coach. Damage to the coach storage building and the house.
>>> Windows out of the house in three bed rooms and some roof damage. Front and side windows out
>>> of the coach and a board through the door. Bob and Beverly are both OK. No injuries. I think
>>> Bob said someone got in a closet and someone in a tub and rode the storm out. Lost main power
>>> to the house. It was just restored when I talked to him.
>>> Charles"
>>>
>>> --
>>> Don
>>> Dallas, TX
>>> 1976 26' Glenbrook
>>> rebuilt by R Archer
>>> powered by J Bounds, Koba
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coach damaged in Dallas Tornado [message #230112 is a reply to message #230105] |
Sun, 17 November 2013 20:30 |
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| mickeysss wrote on Sun, 17 November 2013 17:44 |
tornado info in the past. god help those in it's path, now average 166 miles per hour to over 200. From peoria, on over all washington county still warnings up to 65 sighted from chicago to kentucky and Hopkins county 65 tornados seen. 3 dead now 37 injured.
this is when the gmc is a life boat if it is still in one shape. mickey anaheim ca. 77 palm beach life boat.
On Apr 6, 2012, at 6:17 AM, Marsha wrote:
> It's never recommended to try to out run them. They change directions before you even realize what's going on. They can develop sister tornadoes (think of something like conjoined twins) that can make contact with the ground anywhere around. Vehicles are tossed around like a bag of marshmallows during these storms. The wind get up under them and throws them, even if you aren't in the direct path of the funnel itself.
> Your best bet it underground. Next is in something well attached to the ground, unfortunately most house don't qualify for this.
> Take it from someone who's lost 2 complete houses around her and the pieces of many others. When you think there might be one coming, hide like it's the devil coming for your soul.
> Marsha
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We had that line of tornadoes come through here this afternoon around 1:30. They came through at 55 mph. They suspended the Bears game a couple of hours and sent everyone out of the stands. The Bears eventually won the game a few hours later. No real damage here from the high winds. Straight line non-rotational gusts were around 60 mph.
On good thing about tornados unlike hurricanes is the damage is quick and not wide spread. I encountered a set one night while flying home. I was given radar vectors by Grissom AFB around them and continued home.
Damage is usually a few square blocks and then nothing. The severe ones like Joplin may go 1/2 to 1 mile.
I have seen lot of tornado damage over the years. I was in the Chicago IBM Building when it got hit about 25 years ago. It blew out some windows and bent the building steel frame work. One time I saw a railroad tie driven through a tree. I have seen entire houses lifted off foundations and put back down with no damage inside and 1/2 mile of high voltage power transmission line taken out.
On that one there we were two parallel tower line sets several hundred feel apart. One set was taken out while the parallel set a few hundred feet away was left in service. From a tornado last spring year we still have one another set of downed towers that supplies my area that have not been replaced. We are running on the back up route. The power company is playing a game with them claiming that they need more money for infrastructure improvements.
I would rather be around tornados any day as compared to hurricanes.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coach damaged in Dallas Tornado [message #230118 is a reply to message #230112] |
Sun, 17 November 2013 23:04 |
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Do not listen to the ones that say do not seek shelter in a vehicle! You can get in and strap yourself in and now have some armor around you and information from outside via the radio and the windows. DO NOT seek shelter in a high profile vehicle like a semi truck or a motor home or ANY kind of trailer. DO NOT try to escape the tornado unless you are on the open highway and can safely run 100 mph. This is when people die, from a crash or a panicky accident, NOT from being in a car when the tornado passes over.
You can stand out in the parking lot, lay in a ditch, or seek shelter in a building that may fall down on you (or get swept away, like the Walmart in Petersburg)if you believe the newscasters, but you will have no armor and be subject to all that gets thrown your way. You need something that offers a relatively safe space that will not crush easily.
All the safety Nazis need to check their facts about how many people are killed while secured in their vehicles during tornados before dispensing incorrect advice.
Terry
Terry Kelpien
ASE Master Technician
73 Glacier 260
Smithfield, Va.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coach damaged in Dallas Tornado [message #230125 is a reply to message #230118] |
Mon, 18 November 2013 04:48 |
Robin Hood
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Terry,
The problem with cars is that they are light weight compared to their
surface area. They get airborne.
On Sunday, November 17, 2013, Terry wrote:
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> Do not listen to the ones that say do not seek shelter in a vehicle! You
> can get in and strap yourself in and now have some armor around you and
> information from outside via the radio and the windows. DO NOT seek shelter
> in a high profile vehicle like a semi truck or a motor home or ANY kind of
> trailer. DO NOT try to escape the tornado unless you are on the open
> highway and can safely run 100 mph. This is when people die, from a crash
> or a panicky accident, NOT from being in a car when the tornado passes over.
> You can stand out in the parking lot, lay in a ditch, or seek shelter in a
> building that may fall down on you (or get swept away, like the Walmart in
> Petersburg)if you believe the newscasters, but you will have no armor and
> be subject to all that gets thrown your way. You need something that offers
> a relatively safe space that will not crush easily.
> All the safety Nazis need to check their facts about how many people are
> killed while secured in their vehicles during tornados before dispensing
> incorrect advice.
>
> Terry
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> Smithfield, Va.
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1968 Pontiac Catalina "The Cheshire Cat"
1978 GMC Royale motorhome "Pinto Bean"
1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome "Barn Queen"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coach damaged in Dallas Tornado [message #230137 is a reply to message #230125] |
Mon, 18 November 2013 09:11 |
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When the tornado comes, you need to slap on some armor real quick. A substantial vehicle will fit that description. The naysayers can stand out in the parking lot or cower under the bed if they want, I will strap on some armor and be there to help afterward. If I have to go flying about in a tornado, I would much rather be wearing a car than a building. Especially since most houses are only held together with NAILS, something left over from colonial times.
A Ranger pickup truck was hurled into the brick and block wall of the hospital by a tornado here a few years ago. Someone in the truck would have been OK, but the ones on the inside of the wall that came down would have been dead. If you cannot get underground, you will NOT be safe, so you have to put as much between you and flying debris as possible. And if you are actually the flying debris, you better be wearing some good armor. And humans have much LESS weight per surface area than vehicles! We are a lot softer and more penetrable too...
Terry Kelpien
ASE Master Technician
73 Glacier 260
Smithfield, Va.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coach damaged in Dallas Tornado [message #230141 is a reply to message #230125] |
Mon, 18 November 2013 09:25 |
k2gkk
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Tornado here on 3 May 99 took a loaded railroad tank car over half mile! Got my house and eight vehicles,
too!
Mac in OKC
Money Pit
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 18, 2013, at 4:48, "Robin Hood" <loxley@gmail.com> wrote:
Terry,
The problem with cars is that they are light weight compared to their
surface area. They get airborne.
> On Sunday, November 17, 2013, Terry wrote:
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> Do not listen to the ones that say do not seek shelter in a vehicle! You
> can get in and strap yourself in and now have some armor around you and
> information from outside via the radio and the windows. DO NOT seek shelter
> in a high profile vehicle like a semi truck or a motor home or ANY kind of
> trailer. DO NOT try to escape the tornado unless you are on the open
> highway and can safely run 100 mph. This is when people die, from a crash
> or a panicky accident, NOT from being in a car when the tornado passes over.
> You can stand out in the parking lot, lay in a ditch, or seek shelter in a
> building that may fall down on you (or get swept away, like the Walmart in
> Petersburg)if you believe the newscasters, but you will have no armor and
> be subject to all that gets thrown your way. You need something that offers
> a relatively safe space that will not crush easily.
> All the safety Nazis need to check their facts about how many people are
> killed while secured in their vehicles during tornados before dispensing
> incorrect advice.
>
> Terry
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> Smithfield, Va.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coach damaged in Dallas Tornado [message #230143 is a reply to message #230118] |
Mon, 18 November 2013 09:38 |
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WARNING ! ! !
NO VEHICLE (short of a tank, maybe even not there) is safe in which to ride out. tornado ! ! !
Mac in OKC
(With too close acquaintance with tornados)
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 17, 2013, at 23:04, "Terry" <mrbullitt@verizon.net> wrote:
Do not listen to the ones that say do not seek shelter in a vehicle! You can get in and strap yourself in and now have some armor around you and information from outside via the radio and the windows. DO NOT seek shelter in a high profile vehicle like a semi truck or a motor home or ANY kind of trailer. DO NOT try to escape the tornado unless you are on the open highway and can safely run 100 mph. This is when people die, from a crash or a panicky accident, NOT from being in a car when the tornado passes over.
You can stand out in the parking lot, lay in a ditch, or seek shelter in a building that may fall down on you (or get swept away, like the Walmart in Petersburg)if you believe the newscasters, but you will have no armor and be subject to all that gets thrown your way. You need something that offers a relatively safe space that will not crush easily.
All the safety Nazis need to check their facts about how many people are killed while secured in their vehicles during tornados before dispensing incorrect advice.
Terry
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Smithfield, Va.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coach damaged in Dallas Tornado [message #230158 is a reply to message #230143] |
Mon, 18 November 2013 11:45 |
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I was out West of The City on I 40 one summer in 1980 or so when one appeared. We stuck the car under an overpass between the uprights and watched the debris blow around us. Flat land and no place to hide made that the best option. It worked.
--johnny
From: D C _Mac_ Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>
To: "gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org" <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Coach damaged in Dallas Tornado
WARNING ! ! !
NO VEHICLE (short of a tank, maybe even not there) is safe in which to ride out. tornado ! ! !
Mac in OKC
(With too close acquaintance with tornados)
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 17, 2013, at 23:04, "Terry" <mrbullitt@verizon.net> wrote:
Do not listen to the ones that say do not seek shelter in a vehicle! You can get in and strap yourself in and now have some armor around you and information from outside via the radio and the windows. DO NOT seek shelter in a high profile vehicle like a semi truck or a motor home or ANY kind of trailer. DO NOT try to escape the tornado unless you are on the open highway and can safely run 100 mph. This is when people die, from a crash or a panicky accident, NOT from being in a car when the tornado passes over.
You can stand out in the parking lot, lay in a ditch, or seek shelter in a building that may fall down on you (or get swept away, like the Walmart in Petersburg)if you believe the newscasters, but you will have no armor and be subject to all that gets thrown your way. You need something that offers a relatively safe space that will not crush easily.
All the safety Nazis need to check their facts about how many people are killed while secured in their vehicles during tornados before dispensing incorrect advice.
Terry
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Smithfield, Va.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coach damaged in Dallas Tornado [message #230159 is a reply to message #230158] |
Mon, 18 November 2013 12:35 |
mickeysss
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best to drive your car into a bank vault and fill it with money and wait to be flown away to get away with the money.
Mickey anaheim ca. 77 bank get away car. palm beach ball in the sky.
It would be good to take a ship container and dig a whole and put it in it for a shelter next to your house?
it may be good to drive your car into it. the tornados were from the typhoon that just moved over here. so it is best to
go on vacation to L.A. a few days before it comes bye. Up the insurance on the way out of town. Run for your life
when the bars are close together on the wind map over the pacific. You know it is coming then. run for it.
On Nov 18, 2013, at 9:45 AM, Johnny Bridges wrote:
> I was out West of The City on I 40 one summer in 1980 or so when one appeared. We stuck the car under an overpass between the uprights and watched the debris blow around us. Flat land and no place to hide made that the best option. It worked.
>
> --johnny
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>
> From: D C _Mac_ Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>
> To: "gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org" <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 10:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Coach damaged in Dallas Tornado
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>
> WARNING ! ! !
>
> NO VEHICLE (short of a tank, maybe even not there) is safe in which to ride out. tornado ! ! !
>
> Mac in OKC
> (With too close acquaintance with tornados)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 17, 2013, at 23:04, "Terry" <mrbullitt@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> Do not listen to the ones that say do not seek shelter in a vehicle! You can get in and strap yourself in and now have some armor around you and information from outside via the radio and the windows. DO NOT seek shelter in a high profile vehicle like a semi truck or a motor home or ANY kind of trailer. DO NOT try to escape the tornado unless you are on the open highway and can safely run 100 mph. This is when people die, from a crash or a panicky accident, NOT from being in a car when the tornado passes over.
> You can stand out in the parking lot, lay in a ditch, or seek shelter in a building that may fall down on you (or get swept away, like the Walmart in Petersburg)if you believe the newscasters, but you will have no armor and be subject to all that gets thrown your way. You need something that offers a relatively safe space that will not crush easily.
> All the safety Nazis need to check their facts about how many people are killed while secured in their vehicles during tornados before dispensing incorrect advice.
>
> Terry
> --
> 73 Glacier 260
> Smithfield, Va.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coach damaged in Dallas Tornado [message #230162 is a reply to message #230159] |
Mon, 18 November 2013 14:09 |
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Mac is correct, no vehicle is safe to ride out a tornado. But it is a lot safer that laying on the ground, holding on to a tree, or hiding in most buildings. There are varying degrees of safety, but the only guaranteed safe place is UNDERGROUND. Under the bridge on the road is ok if the girders are larger than your body, but you must get up into the structure of the bridge, do not just park underneath it. When Mac's railroad tank car comes down, there are no structures on the surface of the planet that will withstand that impact. Keep in mind that the structure over a basement can move and fall in, so you may still need crush protection. And if you have any kind of helmet, put it on!
Terry
Terry Kelpien
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73 Glacier 260
Smithfield, Va.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coach damaged in Dallas Tornado [message #230163 is a reply to message #230159] |
Mon, 18 November 2013 14:13 |
Bob de Kruyff
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""best to drive your car into a bank vault and fill it with money and wait to be flown away to get away with the money.
Mickey anaheim ca. 77 bank get away car. palm beach ball in the sky.
It would be good to take a ship container and dig a whole and put it in it for a shelter next to your house?
it may be good to drive your car into it. the tornados were from the typhoon that just moved over here. so it is best to
go on vacation to L.A. a few days before it comes bye. Up the insurance on the way out of town. Run for your life
when the bars are close together on the wind map over the pacific. You know it is coming then. run for it.
""
I never go anywhere unless the bars are close together 
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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