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Sun, 01 April 2012 18:49  |
Bruce Hart
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Now that most of you are back from Shawnee.
When I go to fill-up my gas tank I set the pump nozzle at its slowest rate, and after 5 gallons it shuts off, as the gas is not flowing fast enough to the tank and sometimes the gas comes spilling out. I end up just barely pressing on the nozzle handle and it takes about twenty minutes to fill my tank. Is this typical of the GMC? Is there a solution to get the gas in quicker?
Bruce Hart
1976 Palm Beach
1977 28' Kingsley
La Grange, Wyoming
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| Re: Filling the gas tank [message #164944 is a reply to message #164930] |
Sun, 01 April 2012 20:10  |
Carl S.
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It's typically a little slow to fill, but not THAT slow! You must have a problem with one, or both, of the venting systems for the tanks. The main vent to the filler neck might have a pinched line, and/or the vapor separator might be plugged.
Here is a link to my Gas hose replacement album:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5520
It may show where to start looking.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] Filling the gas tank [message #164983 is a reply to message #164964] |
Sun, 01 April 2012 23:15 |
peter bailey
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Dan,
I also find it easy to fill the vehicle here in USA especially when
it costs only $50 to fill.
Kay and I are in Branson MO to take in some shows and ofcourse the
motor museum.
We will stay for a couple of days then push off for Bowling Green
Kentucky taking 2 days to get there, got to see the corvet te
factory.
Peter Bailey fom Ozy (Aussie) temp. in USA
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Peter Bailey wrote on Sun, 01 April 2012 21:02
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> My tank fills easily except when the fuel is hot and boils back.
> Filling it early in the morning takes no time at all. Coming home
> yesterday, after lunch it was hot and took a little while. But,
after
> getting a few gallons of cooler fuel in, it speeds up.
> Dan
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Peter, can you translate from Aussie talk to American English?
Where are yall now?
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| Re: [GMCnet] Filling the gas tank [message #164996 is a reply to message #164983] |
Mon, 02 April 2012 08:15 |
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USAussie
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Peter,
Don't tell Kaye I sent you this email!
There is the Auburn, Cord, Duesenberg Museum in Auburn, Indiana. Behind it
is the NATMUS museum, they own the Futurliner but it's not kept there.
The motor museum at the Indy 500 track is neat too.
Finally if you come through Georgia there is the Mini Car Museum in Madison,
Georgia.
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Filling the gas tank
Dan,
I also find it easy to fill the vehicle here in USA especially when
it costs only $50 to fill.
Kay and I are in Branson MO to take in some shows and ofcourse the
motor museum.
We will stay for a couple of days then push off for Bowling Green
Kentucky taking 2 days to get there, got to see the corvet te
factory.
Peter Bailey fom Ozy (Aussie) temp. in USA
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Filling the gas tank [message #165013 is a reply to message #164996] |
Mon, 02 April 2012 10:14 |
Dennis S
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There are also...
Just south of Nashville..
http://lanemotormuseum.org/
Birmingham, Al for over 1200 motorcycles...
http://www.barbermuseum.org/index-full.php
Tupelo, Ms
http://www.tupeloautomuseum.com/index.php
Just to mention three that may be on your route...
Dennis
Bi| Robert Mueller wrote on Mon, 02 April 2012 08:15 |
Peter,
Don't tell Kaye I sent you this email!
There is the Auburn, Cord, Duesenberg Museum in Auburn, Indiana. Behind it
is the NATMUS museum, they own the Futurliner but it's not kept there.
The motor museum at the Indy 500 track is neat too.
Finally if you come through Georgia there is the Mini Car Museum in Madison,
Georgia.
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 11:16 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Filling the gas tank
Dan,
I also find it easy to fill the vehicle here in USA especially when
it costs only $50 to fill.
Kay and I are in Branson MO to take in some shows and ofcourse the
motor museum.
We will stay for a couple of days then push off for Bowling Green
Kentucky taking 2 days to get there, got to see the corvet te
factory.
Peter Bailey fom Ozy (Aussie) temp. in USA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Filling the gas tank [message #165017 is a reply to message #164983] |
Mon, 02 April 2012 10:57 |
Don A
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<<< in Branson MO >>>
Peter, nice to have met you in Branson. I would be interested in your comments on the storm recovery conditions in Branson.
And if you are returning to Dallas DFW airport, I would suggest entering the South entrance off hwy 183 to avoid the construction.
Don Adams Dallas, TX
'76 26' Glenbrook, '90 Sidekick
rebuilt by R Archer, powered by J Bounds, Koba
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| Re: [GMCnet] Filling the gas tank [message #165059 is a reply to message #165051] |
Mon, 02 April 2012 16:38 |
Bruce Hart
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Back in the good old days, before there were computers in cars,
experimenters were able to add HHO to their engines and get remarkable
mileage gains and dramatic decreases in emissions. No other handling was
needed to get excellent results. Similarly, diesel engines, even today get
excellent results with HHO and need no other handling.
However, with the advent of the computer, fuel injection, oxygen sensors,
and other sensors used to control the air/fuel ratio, a problem is
introduced into this simple technology. The problem starts like this. When
hydrogen is introduced, and the engine is turning more times with less gas,
one of the results is that there is more oxygen coming through the exhaust.
This is reported to the computer by the oxygen sensor(s) that are installed
in the exhaust pipe(s). The computer reads this additional oxygen as a
"lean" air/fuel mix. It then promptly adds more gas, until it "sees" the
same exhaust conditions it was programmed to expect. However, it is now
incorrectly adding gas when it shouldn't.
People with modern, fuel-injected cars, who put in HHO, often report that
their vehicle runs smoother, and has a dramatic increase in horsepower. But
they also often report no increase in fuel mileage. This is because the
computer, that was designed for inefficient combustion, is adding much more
gas than is actually needed. What is needed to get all the gains available
to this technology is to compensate for this additional oxygen in the
exhaust.
A device was created that does just that. It's called an EFIE, which is
short for Electronic Fuel Injection Enhancer. You can find out more about
this device, and how it works in the article EFIE
Described<http://www.fuelsaver-mpg.com/efie-described>.
But basically this device compensates for the additional oxygen appearing
in the exhaust, and allows the computer to do it's job correctly when an
HHO system is installed.
HHO is able to improve fuel economy. In actual fact HHO, when added to the
air/fuel mixture going into the engine, causes that petroleum fuel to burn
more rapidly. Scientists say that it considerably increases the flame speed
of the petroleum mixture. And it is this fact that sums up the primary way
that HHO improves fuel mileage.
When the flame speed of the fuel mixture is increased, more of the fuel is
burned during the power stroke of the piston. Less fuel is being burned
after the power stroke, and during the exhaust stroke, which actually works
against the turning of the engine. And less unburned fuel is being expelled
from the engine as waste and pollutants. A relatively small amount of HHO
will have a dramatic impact on the amount of power a given amount of
gasoline will produce. It will also drop dramatically the amount of harmful
emissions the engine produces.
A 20-35% gain is easily attainable.
Like the GMCnet there are forums that informs on how to get this done.
http://www.hhoforums.com/
http://www.hhoforums.com/ based in Australia but has a excellent resource
base.
http://www.fuelsaver-mpg.com/
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Gary Worobec <gtw5@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Larry, Don;t want to hijack this thread but I have a neighbor with one of
> those hydrogen generator deals on his Duramax pickup and he swears by it.
> Not sure how it would work on a gas engine.
>
> Thanks
>
> Gary and Joanne Worobec
> 1973 GMC Glacier
> Anza, CA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Davick" <ljdavick@comcast.net>
> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Filling the gas tank
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> >
> >
> > Back to filling the tank - have you seen the new aluminum tanks Jim B is
> > fitting to a coach? They look great and I'd guess if you polished them
> > they might reflect some road heat. I wonder what the vendor would charge
> > to weld a shield on the underside. They also are a gallon larger and
> > include a drain plug. Otherwise they are designed as stock, so all
> > fittings will be the same.
> >
> > On a bizarre note - he's installing a hydrogen generator. It looks like
> > snake oil, but I'd love to be wrong. It uses water, electricity and
> > potassium hydroxide to produce hydrogen that is fed to the air cleaner.
> >
> > <http://mileageshop.com/mileage-saver-double-unit>
> >
> > I suppose some diesel owners put urine in their tanks - why not piss away
> > some money on hydrogen...
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> > The Mystery Machine
> > 1976(ish) Palm Beach
> > Fremont, Ca
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1977 28' Kingsley
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| Re: [GMCnet] Filling the gas tank [message #165082 is a reply to message #165059] |
Mon, 02 April 2012 19:47 |
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ljdavick
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Bruce,
Based on what you report this hydrogen generator should be perfect for the carbureted GMC's. I'm still smelling snake oil, but, again, I hope I'm wrong.
Larry Davick
Fremont, California
The Mystery Machine
'76 (ish) Palm Beach
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Hart" <hartsgmc@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 2:38:37 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Filling the gas tank
Back in the good old days, before there were computers in cars,
experimenters were able to add HHO to their engines and get remarkable
mileage gains and dramatic decreases in emissions. No other handling was
needed to get excellent results. Similarly, diesel engines, even today get
excellent results with HHO and need no other handling.
However, with the advent of the computer, fuel injection, oxygen sensors,
and other sensors used to control the air/fuel ratio, a problem is
introduced into this simple technology. The problem starts like this. When
hydrogen is introduced, and the engine is turning more times with less gas,
one of the results is that there is more oxygen coming through the exhaust.
This is reported to the computer by the oxygen sensor(s) that are installed
in the exhaust pipe(s). The computer reads this additional oxygen as a
"lean" air/fuel mix. It then promptly adds more gas, until it "sees" the
same exhaust conditions it was programmed to expect. However, it is now
incorrectly adding gas when it shouldn't.
People with modern, fuel-injected cars, who put in HHO, often report that
their vehicle runs smoother, and has a dramatic increase in horsepower. But
they also often report no increase in fuel mileage. This is because the
computer, that was designed for inefficient combustion, is adding much more
gas than is actually needed. What is needed to get all the gains available
to this technology is to compensate for this additional oxygen in the
exhaust.
A device was created that does just that. It's called an EFIE, which is
short for Electronic Fuel Injection Enhancer. You can find out more about
this device, and how it works in the article EFIE
Described<http://www.fuelsaver-mpg.com/efie-described>.
But basically this device compensates for the additional oxygen appearing
in the exhaust, and allows the computer to do it's job correctly when an
HHO system is installed.
HHO is able to improve fuel economy. In actual fact HHO, when added to the
air/fuel mixture going into the engine, causes that petroleum fuel to burn
more rapidly. Scientists say that it considerably increases the flame speed
of the petroleum mixture. And it is this fact that sums up the primary way
that HHO improves fuel mileage.
When the flame speed of the fuel mixture is increased, more of the fuel is
burned during the power stroke of the piston. Less fuel is being burned
after the power stroke, and during the exhaust stroke, which actually works
against the turning of the engine. And less unburned fuel is being expelled
from the engine as waste and pollutants. A relatively small amount of HHO
will have a dramatic impact on the amount of power a given amount of
gasoline will produce. It will also drop dramatically the amount of harmful
emissions the engine produces.
A 20-35% gain is easily attainable.
Like the GMCnet there are forums that informs on how to get this done.
http://www.hhoforums.com/
http://www.hhoforums.com/ based in Australia but has a excellent resource
base.
http://www.fuelsaver-mpg.com/
--
Bruce Hart
1976 Palm Beach
Milliken, Co
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A Mystery Machine
1976(ish) Palm Beach
Fremont, Ca
Howell EFI + EBL + Electronic Dizzy
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