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| Re: [GMCnet] dodge front wheels [message #164549] |
Thu, 29 March 2012 06:52  |
Gary Casey
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I also run pickup wheels - from a Chevy and they work just fine, but I needed new lug nuts, and that added to the cost. I had hoped to find a set from a GMC so the hubcaps matched, but no joy.
Regarding pressure, I run 60 and it seems to be about right, at least from the appearance of the bulge of the sidewalls. The "proper" pressure is determined mostly by the vehicle manufacturer, modified a little if the tire has a different section. The 225/70 is about the same as the original, so I suspect the tire pressure should be about the same as original - anyone disagree? Then the tire buyer is supposed to buy a tire that is capable of at least that pressure (max inflation pressure is on the sidewall). If the tire is rated at "only" 44 psi I suspect it also doesn't have the load rating it needs. But I might be mistaken.
Gary Casey
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I am running the dodge front wheels. they mount lug centered.
they were a inexpensive way to widen the front end. I believe I noticed improvement in handling. I went from 16.5 wheels to the dodge. I am running I think a 255 70 16. I am very happy with the results.
In the tire size, I think tires were a little more costly. and limited on selection. However not to a point of being too much of a concern. just slightly less choices. I also went with what I thought was equal to stock tire size to keep speedo and gearing in check. not sure if a person runs bigger or smaller tires what hey might cost or change.
What I noticed in the wider tire, was that the tire inflation pressures were a bit less. max pressure on my tires is 44 psi. but it is E rated.
that lower PSI seemed to be common in that size. I know the BFG AT in that size, you can pump up to 65 psi.
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| Re: [GMCnet] dodge front wheels [message #164551 is a reply to message #164549] |
Thu, 29 March 2012 07:30  |
tphipps
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Tire pressure is directly related to the vehicle weight on that tire/axle combination. If I ever get my coach weighed (hint for Amana Colonies), I'll look up the manufacters data chart, otherwise I will continue to run 65 in the front and 55 in the rear. Rear is heavier, but there are more tires to carry the load.
Tire size 225/70 16 is closer to OEM 16.5" tire. I know that the Dodge wheel will allow fatter tires up front, but on some coachs, not in the rear, although I've seen it done.
Tom Phipps, MS II
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
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| Re: [GMCnet] dodge front wheels [message #164574 is a reply to message #164549] |
Thu, 29 March 2012 10:41 |
kingd
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To the "unknown" poster, I would check those tires VERY !!!! carefelly.
I do not believe there is such a thing as an E rated 16" tire that has a MAX inflation presure of 44 PSI, and I further believe that any tire that has a MAX inflation of 44 PSI does not have the load carrying capacity for a GMCMH. I some jurisdictions one could get a "ticket" for having tires under rated for the weight of the vehicle.
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| Re: [GMCnet] dodge front wheels [message #164582 is a reply to message #164549] |
Thu, 29 March 2012 11:25 |
lqqkatjon
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as the owner of those tires. I am not sure what to think.
but on the sidewall, the tire is stamped: 2403 lbs @ 44 psi max. It also has "load range E" on the sidewall. they are hercules.
I did not like the idea of the 44psi. but I found most of the 255 70 16 tires out there had that same rating. but usually a 2271@ 44 psi. The BFG A/T KO tires were about the only one I remember with a higher pressure rating, and weight rating. 2680 lbs@ 65 psi I think. But are super spendy tires.
I found these tires on craigslist, the date codes showed only a year and half old. and they were like bran new. bought from a backyard tow truck guy for $100 for the pair. So for that price, I am learning to be OK with 44 psi.
see picture of front tires:
http://www.lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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| Re: [GMCnet] dodge front wheels [message #164684 is a reply to message #164677] |
Thu, 29 March 2012 23:02 |
mickeysss
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that is what i was thinking, thank you. if they do not hit the brake cals then i'm in, i have a few 16, E tires to try it out as well.
But i go to my Mexicano friends that have a used tire place here and they do it in 5 minutes and save me 25 mille gas bill.
Your right Rob thank you. I may get those flares too?
On Mar 29, 2012, at 8:39 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:
> Mickey,
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> Seems to me that all you have to do is load the Dodge van rims in your GMC,
> drive your coach down to Miquel's and have him see if they will fit.
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> Regards,
> Rob M.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mickey's space ship shuttle
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> I have a few dodge van rims for B3500 1999 - 1997 years would these work or
> is just pick up truck rims.???
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> Thank you mickey
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| Re: [GMCnet] dodge front wheels [message #164691 is a reply to message #164677] |
Fri, 30 March 2012 00:04 |
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ROB or anyone, if I do go to my friends and they only have regular rolling jacks, in order to save my front windows from
cracking, would it be best that they use two floor jacks at the same time on each side under the front bumper to the frame
behind the radiator, or can one of them work in the middle, I do not have any other jacks so far. I do not have J hooks
or any of those funny hooks, where can i use floor jacks to lift the front and try these rims.
thank you,
Regards mickey
I think i can use a floor jack on the rear boogie with out any thing under the middle of it, is this true as well?
On Mar 29, 2012, at 8:39 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:
> Mickey,
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> Seems to me that all you have to do is load the Dodge van rims in your GMC,
> drive your coach down to Miquel's and have him see if they will fit.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mickey's space ship shuttle
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> I have a few dodge van rims for B3500 1999 - 1997 years would these work or
> is just pick up truck rims.???
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> Thank you mickey
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| Re: [GMCnet] dodge front wheels [message #164704 is a reply to message #164691] |
Fri, 30 March 2012 09:10 |
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A floor jsck will work fine on the rear, placing the jack under the boggie support. You don't need a "J" hook for this application. "J" hooks are designed for use with the standard design Hydraulic Jacks that many carry.
I would not lift the front end from either cornor of the frame behind the radiator. I lift, by placing the floor jack in the middle of the cross member (near the 2 holes), and stationing jack stands at each cornor of the cross member. Jack a little, place jack stands underneath, jack some more, re-adjust jaack stands, until I get the coach to the height that I need. I attempt to keep the coach at an even height across the width of the coach. I do not want to crack and destroy a windshield.
Neither bumper can support the vehicle.
Remember, a GMC can hit the ground in 0.013 seconds, from a dead fall. Be sure to place additional blocking under the frame as a final check on it's fall to earth. I use 6x6 wooden blocks, placed along the frame.
Just my take on safe jacking.
Tom Phipps,
MS II
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
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| Re: [GMCnet] dodge front wheels [message #164732 is a reply to message #164704] |
Fri, 30 March 2012 13:55 |
mickeysss
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Thank you i found the jack plate, but i do not see the measurements to make one or where i can buy one.
THank You for this, I think when i do to the tire store i will put a floor jack under the cross member frame one on each side and
jack at the same rate, maybe three of them. I just need to test the wheel rim to see if it hits the calipers. thank you mickey :-)
pardan my stupid jokes.
On Mar 30, 2012, at 7:10 AM, Thomas Phipps wrote:
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> A floor jsck will work fine on the rear, placing the jack under the boggie support. You don't need a "J" hook for this application. "J" hooks are designed for use with the standard design Hydraulic Jacks that many carry.
> I would not lift the front end from either cornor of the frame behind the radiator. I lift, by placing the floor jack in the middle of the cross member (near the 2 holes), and stationing jack stands at each cornor of the cross member. Jack a little, place jack stands underneath, jack some more, re-adjust jaack stands, until I get the coach to the height that I need. I attemp to keep the coach at an even height across the width of the coah. I do not want to crack and destroy a windshield.
> Neither bumper can support the vehicle.
> Remember, a GMC can hit the ground in 0.013 seconds, from a dead fall. Be sure to place additional blocking under the frame as a final check on it's fall to earth.
> Just my take on safe jacking.
> Tom Phipps,
> MS II
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| Re: [GMCnet] dodge front wheels [message #164736 is a reply to message #164732] |
Fri, 30 March 2012 15:30 |
Bruce Hart
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Mickey,
Applied has the jack plate, look under wheels and accessories second to
last item.
http://www.appliedgmc.com/level.itml/icOid/489
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:56 PM, mickey's space ship shuttle <
mickeysss@me.com> wrote:
> Thank you i found the jack plate, but i do not see the measurements to
> make one or where i can buy one.
>
> THank You for this, I think when i do to the tire store i will put a floor
> jack under the cross member frame one on each side and
> jack at the same rate, maybe three of them. I just need to test the wheel
> rim to see if it hits the calipers. thank you mickey :-)
>
> pardan my stupid jokes.
>
>
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> On Mar 30, 2012, at 7:10 AM, Thomas Phipps wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > A floor jsck will work fine on the rear, placing the jack under the
> boggie support. You don't need a "J" hook for this application. "J" hooks
> are designed for use with the standard design Hydraulic Jacks that many
> carry.
> > I would not lift the front end from either cornor of the frame behind
> the radiator. I lift, by placing the floor jack in the middle of the cross
> member (near the 2 holes), and stationing jack stands at each cornor of the
> cross member. Jack a little, place jack stands underneath, jack some more,
> re-adjust jaack stands, until I get the coach to the height that I need. I
> attemp to keep the coach at an even height across the width of the coah. I
> do not want to crack and destroy a windshield.
> > Neither bumper can support the vehicle.
> > Remember, a GMC can hit the ground in 0.013 seconds, from a dead fall.
> Be sure to place additional blocking under the frame as a final check on
> it's fall to earth.
> > Just my take on safe jacking.
> > Tom Phipps,
> > MS II
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| Re: [GMCnet] dodge front wheels [message #164745 is a reply to message #164736] |
Fri, 30 March 2012 19:39 |
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thank you
warm regards mick
On Mar 30, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Bruce Hart wrote:
> Mickey,
> Applied has the jack plate, look under wheels and accessories second to
> last item.
> http://www.appliedgmc.com/level.itml/icOid/489
>
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:56 PM, mickey's space ship shuttle <
> mickeysss@me.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you i found the jack plate, but i do not see the measurements to
>> make one or where i can buy one.
>>
>> THank You for this, I think when i do to the tire store i will put a floor
>> jack under the cross member frame one on each side and
>> jack at the same rate, maybe three of them. I just need to test the wheel
>> rim to see if it hits the calipers. thank you mickey :-)
>>
>> pardan my stupid jokes.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2012, at 7:10 AM, Thomas Phipps wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A floor jsck will work fine on the rear, placing the jack under the
>> boggie support. You don't need a "J" hook for this application. "J" hooks
>> are designed for use with the standard design Hydraulic Jacks that many
>> carry.
>>> I would not lift the front end from either cornor of the frame behind
>> the radiator. I lift, by placing the floor jack in the middle of the cross
>> member (near the 2 holes), and stationing jack stands at each cornor of the
>> cross member. Jack a little, place jack stands underneath, jack some more,
>> re-adjust jaack stands, until I get the coach to the height that I need. I
>> attemp to keep the coach at an even height across the width of the coah. I
>> do not want to crack and destroy a windshield.
>>> Neither bumper can support the vehicle.
>>> Remember, a GMC can hit the ground in 0.013 seconds, from a dead fall.
>> Be sure to place additional blocking under the frame as a final check on
>> it's fall to earth.
>>> Just my take on safe jacking.
>>> Tom Phipps,
>>> MS II
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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| Re: [GMCnet] dodge front wheels [message #164757 is a reply to message #164736] |
Fri, 30 March 2012 21:15 |
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this is the answer for the front
http://gmcwsproducts.blogspot.com/2010/04/gmc-jack-pad-for-front.html
gene
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Bruce Hart <hartsgmc@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mickey,
> Applied has the jack plate, look under wheels and accessories second to
> last item.
> http://www.appliedgmc.com/level.itml/icOid/489
>
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:56 PM, mickey's space ship shuttle <
> mickeysss@me.com> wrote:
>
> > Thank you i found the jack plate, but i do not see the measurements to
> > make one or where i can buy one.
> >
> > THank You for this, I think when i do to the tire store i will put a
> floor
> > jack under the cross member frame one on each side and
> > jack at the same rate, maybe three of them. I just need to test the wheel
> > rim to see if it hits the calipers. thank you mickey :-)
> >
> > pardan my stupid jokes.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mar 30, 2012, at 7:10 AM, Thomas Phipps wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > A floor jsck will work fine on the rear, placing the jack under the
> > boggie support. You don't need a "J" hook for this application. "J"
> hooks
> > are designed for use with the standard design Hydraulic Jacks that many
> > carry.
> > > I would not lift the front end from either cornor of the frame behind
> > the radiator. I lift, by placing the floor jack in the middle of the
> cross
> > member (near the 2 holes), and stationing jack stands at each cornor of
> the
> > cross member. Jack a little, place jack stands underneath, jack some
> more,
> > re-adjust jaack stands, until I get the coach to the height that I need.
> I
> > attemp to keep the coach at an even height across the width of the coah.
> I
> > do not want to crack and destroy a windshield.
> > > Neither bumper can support the vehicle.
> > > Remember, a GMC can hit the ground in 0.013 seconds, from a dead fall.
> > Be sure to place additional blocking under the frame as a final check on
> > it's fall to earth.
> > > Just my take on safe jacking.
> > > Tom Phipps,
> > > MS II
> > > _______________________________________________
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