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stacy bartlett is currently offline  stacy bartlett   United States
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My family is considering purchasing a GMC. I've heard mostly great, but a
few concerning things. Thought I'd ask the experts! :-)

1. We are looking at a '73 sequoia and '76 Eleganza II. A fellow who runs
a reputable GMC restoration company suggested a newby stay away from the
73's. Said vast improvements were made starting in '75. Thoughts?

2. The Sequoia does not have couch/bunks. Can those be installed?

3. Are there two different types of toilets? The same, in-the-know fellow
said recylcing toilets were put in some, but not many of the units, and
that most people who have them don't like them. Is this the "macerator"
I've seen in some posts?

4. Same guy told me it would take $60,000 to make a unit road worthy; that
all rubber parts, and there are many, need to be replaced and that if there
is rust, that would take $12000.

5. Any additional tips, suggestions, or thoughts?

Thanks so much! Stacy
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Re: [GMCnet] new to forum; probably easy (to you) questions [message #163936 is a reply to message #163935] Fri, 23 March 2012 09:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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here are some things to read
http://gmcmotorhome.info/buygmc.html

good luck
gene


On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 6:59 AM, stacy bartlett <sabartlett8@gmail.com>wrote:

> My family is considering purchasing a GMC. I've heard mostly great, but a
> few concerning things. Thought I'd ask the experts! :-)
>
> 1. We are looking at a '73 sequoia and '76 Eleganza II. A fellow who runs
> a reputable GMC restoration company suggested a newby stay away from the
> 73's. Said vast improvements were made starting in '75. Thoughts?
>
> 2. The Sequoia does not have couch/bunks. Can those be installed?
>
> 3. Are there two different types of toilets? The same, in-the-know fellow
> said recylcing toilets were put in some, but not many of the units, and
> that most people who have them don't like them. Is this the "macerator"
> I've seen in some posts?
>
> 4. Same guy told me it would take $60,000 to make a unit road worthy; that
> all rubber parts, and there are many, need to be replaced and that if there
> is rust, that would take $12000.
>
> 5. Any additional tips, suggestions, or thoughts?
>
> Thanks so much! Stacy
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Re: [GMCnet] new to forum; probably easy (to you) questions [message #163937 is a reply to message #163935] Fri, 23 March 2012 09:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stacy
Tell us where you live. There may be a GMC owner living down the street
from you...<g>
Mike in NS




On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:59 AM, stacy bartlett <sabartlett8@gmail.com>wrote:

> My family is considering purchasing a GMC. I've heard mostly great, but a
> few concerning things. Thought I'd ask the experts! :-)
>
> 1. We are looking at a '73 sequoia and '76 Eleganza II. A fellow who runs
> a reputable GMC restoration company suggested a newby stay away from the
> 73's. Said vast improvements were made starting in '75. Thoughts?
>
> 2. The Sequoia does not have couch/bunks. Can those be installed?
>
> 3. Are there two different types of toilets? The same, in-the-know fellow
> said recylcing toilets were put in some, but not many of the units, and
> that most people who have them don't like them. Is this the "macerator"
> I've seen in some posts?
>
> 4. Same guy told me it would take $60,000 to make a unit road worthy; that
> all rubber parts, and there are many, need to be replaced and that if there
> is rust, that would take $12000.
>
> 5. Any additional tips, suggestions, or thoughts?
>
> Thanks so much! Stacy
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Re: [GMCnet] new to forum; probably easy (to you) questions [message #163939 is a reply to message #163937] Fri, 23 March 2012 09:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Macerator is like a blender for the solids and liquids that accumulate in your black tank. It grinds everything into a liquid solutiion and pumps it into a sewage system. Very nice to have, not a deal braker, they are not too expensive.
If you need bunks beds for additional sleeping, buy a coach with them already in place. PITA I think to install in a coach without them.
For $60,000, you could buy abut 4 very nice coaches, at today's prices. Many improvements went into the coaches as the years progressed. No reason not to look at a very good 1973, but research some of the GMC sites, and see what you want as an improvement. Since you have decided on bunk beds/couch combination, look at the page with all the GMC produced floor plans, and you will be better able to target the coach that will fit your needs.
Your location would add to the dialoge about available coaches in your area. And, you might find a owner and member of the cult to help with your hunting.
Tom,
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Re: [GMCnet] new to forum; probably easy (to you) questions [message #163942 is a reply to message #163936] Fri, 23 March 2012 09:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stacy: That website Gene suggested is great, we read it before we purchased
four months ago.
We purchased a 77 Kingsley that was in storage for 6 years. Our GMC needed
to be towed to a shop. We had decided that we wanted to buy cheaper and
put all new stuff in. It helps to be handy..but a lot of things we had a
shop do as soon as it was towed. We had new air bags new brakes, including
lines, tanks cleaned, new bushings, new tires and rims.
We have spent more than we thought we would, but, love the GMC. We just
are putting off the paint job! We have taken it out twice and have had no
problems. We purchased with a 83,000 mile engine.

I am glad we purchased a 77 rather than a 75 due to the dash AC
Nancy
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 7:06 AM, gene Fisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com> wrote:

> here are some things to read
> http://gmcmotorhome.info/buygmc.html
>
> good luck
> gene
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 6:59 AM, stacy bartlett <sabartlett8@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > My family is considering purchasing a GMC. I've heard mostly great, but
> a
> > few concerning things. Thought I'd ask the experts! :-)
> >
> > 1. We are looking at a '73 sequoia and '76 Eleganza II. A fellow who
> runs
> > a reputable GMC restoration company suggested a newby stay away from the
> > 73's. Said vast improvements were made starting in '75. Thoughts?
> >
> > 2. The Sequoia does not have couch/bunks. Can those be installed?
> >
> > 3. Are there two different types of toilets? The same, in-the-know
> fellow
> > said recylcing toilets were put in some, but not many of the units, and
> > that most people who have them don't like them. Is this the "macerator"
> > I've seen in some posts?
> >
> > 4. Same guy told me it would take $60,000 to make a unit road worthy;
> that
> > all rubber parts, and there are many, need to be replaced and that if
> there
> > is rust, that would take $12000.
> >
> > 5. Any additional tips, suggestions, or thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks so much! Stacy
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Re: [GMCnet] new to forum; probably easy (to you) questions [message #163943 is a reply to message #163935] Fri, 23 March 2012 09:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
1275gtsport is currently offline  1275gtsport   Canada
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I take a stab at this seeing as I am just kind of new to the GMC scene.
Yes there were improvements to the newer coaches however that does not mean that a 73 has not been upgraded. depends on the unit. windows and the rear bogies were the two biggest I can remember (we will let the more experienced get into that)

I would say that the bunks/couch could be added just not sure why they aren't there now?

there are at least 2 types of toilets I have the recirculating type. I like it you first add 3 gallons of "fresh" water. then when the "toilet tank" gets to 7 gallons you drop the load into the black tank. sort of gives you an extra little holding tank. saved us one weekend when we had a hole in the side of the black tank.
the macerator is a separate pump connected to the black to to allow it to be pumped out to a suitable drain.

the total cost to rebuild kind of depends on how bad the unit was to start with. I was lucky in that the PO (previous owner) did most if not all of the mechanical first. I am left with redoing the interior and paint.

because I like to salvage and recycle I don't expect to be anywhere near the 50k your guy states. but there is no limit to what you can put into one of these.
if you haven't already read this
http://gmcmotorhome.info/buygmc.html

and here is another good spot to spend a couple of days.
http://www.bdub.net/GMCLinks.html

there is a saying of pay now or pay later. in this case (the GMC) this may or may not hold true. do your home work and the right one will come along.
I looked for about a year. kicked a few tires made a couple of offers and finally found one that fit us. both in price and in layout. we have 2 barrel chairs where most have a dinette. and they are on the passengers side which doesn't seem to show up in any of the Palm beach layouts. I think the chairs came from a palm beach alright just not this one.


Adam Raeburn
Rothesay, NB
1976 Austin Mini
1977 GMC Palm Beach
---------------------------------------------------
Once you replace everything that is attached to something else. It will all be fixed.
Re: [GMCnet] new to forum; probably easy (to you) questions [message #163947 is a reply to message #163937] Fri, 23 March 2012 09:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
stacy bartlett is currently offline  stacy bartlett   United States
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I live in the Twin Cities, MN. The Eleganza II is owned by a man who has
attended several rallies and is a member of a couple clubs. It is his
second. He's selling because they moved from 5 acres to a townhome.

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Kingsley Coach <kingsleygmc@gmail.com>wrote:

> Stacy
> Tell us where you live. There may be a GMC owner living down the street
> from you...<g>
> Mike in NS
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:59 AM, stacy bartlett <sabartlett8@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > My family is considering purchasing a GMC. I've heard mostly great, but
> a
> > few concerning things. Thought I'd ask the experts! :-)
> >
> > 1. We are looking at a '73 sequoia and '76 Eleganza II. A fellow who
> runs
> > a reputable GMC restoration company suggested a newby stay away from the
> > 73's. Said vast improvements were made starting in '75. Thoughts?
> >
> > 2. The Sequoia does not have couch/bunks. Can those be installed?
> >
> > 3. Are there two different types of toilets? The same, in-the-know
> fellow
> > said recylcing toilets were put in some, but not many of the units, and
> > that most people who have them don't like them. Is this the "macerator"
> > I've seen in some posts?
> >
> > 4. Same guy told me it would take $60,000 to make a unit road worthy;
> that
> > all rubber parts, and there are many, need to be replaced and that if
> there
> > is rust, that would take $12000.
> >
> > 5. Any additional tips, suggestions, or thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks so much! Stacy
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Re: [GMCnet] new to forum; probably easy (to you) questions [message #163954 is a reply to message #163943] Fri, 23 March 2012 10:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
stacy bartlett is currently offline  stacy bartlett   United States
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Hope this is replying to all of you.

You all are amazing!!!! Actually, this "community" I've heard about is one
of the things that attracts me to the GMC. I have done quite a bit of
homework but some of the terminology is new to me so I don't necessarily
comprehend. I have read the suggested page, but just re-read it.

Here's what I know about the 73:

*1973 26' Sequoia*. All original interior except for the carpet, no rips,
tears or stains, new roof top AC, new power converter, tires in great
condition, new Alcoa wheels, Onan 4000w generator, 455 Olds engine 79,500
miles, dash AC does not work, air lines have been disconnected from the air
bags and replaced with shrader valves for manual leveling, manuals
included, stored inside. Handles and rides nice, very clean unit,*Note:
11/28/11- The 455 olds is currently getting a new water pump and pulley,
also replacing head gasket and getting a complete inspection. (11/28/11)

What we like about this one is the AMAZING interior! Green floral, green
fridge, green countertop, green Star Trek-like captains chairs. Dark green
(parrot green, I believe) exterior.

Unfortunately, the engine is burning oil.


Here's what we know about the '76

This is the owners second Eleganza II. He's been to multiple rallies and
is a part of several groups/forums. He was the first to tell me about the
GMC "family."

1976 GMC Eleganza 26' Motorhome. The engine was rebuilt at 91,000 miles and
it now has about 135,000 and is sound and powerful.


From his e-mails:


"We have been all over the country and have been to several GMC Rallys and
they are a great place to learn about the GMC because they have seminars
and vendors that explain the best way to enjoy your motorhome experience.
This was our second We put new carpeting in the unit and take out the
bench/beds in the back and put in

a full mattress across the back. new windshields in the front, new air
bags in the rear suspension, new shocks in the front and back. a trailer
hitch, New refrigerator, Microwave Oven, New radiator, misc steering arms,
new paint, additional running lights, air compressor for the air bags and
leveling system. I took out the Onan generator that was in the back and
wasgoing to replace it with a new Honda that many owners are now using but
I never got around to it. I found outthat I did not use the generator as
often as I thought I would because it was only used to power the microwave
oven when we were not hooked up to power at a camp site. I don't know of
any work that has to be done to take it on a long trip but every new owner
sees items that they would like to change like curtains or decorating
items. One perk that impressed me that as a GMC owner, there seems to be
almost a family bond there and if you ran into trouble of any kind while
out traveling, you can look at your GMC member directory and find a member
in a town nearby and they are willing to help, no matter what time it is or
what the problems is."


Thanks so much for everyone's help!

Stacy



On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:25 AM, 1275gtsport@gmail.com <
1275gtsport@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> I take a stab at this seeing as I am just kind of new to the GMC scene.
> Yes there were improvements to the newer coaches however that does not
> mean that a 73 has not been upgraded. depends on the unit. windows and the
> rear bogies were the two biggest I can remember (we will let the more
> experienced get into that)
>
> I would say that the bunks/couch could be added just not sure why they
> aren't there now?
>
> there are at least 2 types of toilets I have the recirculating type. I
> like it you first add 3 gallons of "fresh" water. then when the "toilet
> tank" gets to 7 gallons you drop the load into the black tank. sort of
> gives you an extra little holding tank. saved us one weekend when we had a
> hole in the side of the black tank.
> the macerator is a separate pump connected to the black to to allow it to
> be pumped out to a suitable drain.
>
> the total cost to rebuild kind of depends on how bad the unit was to start
> with. I was lucky in that the PO (previous owner) did most if not all of
> the mechanical first. I am left with redoing the interior and paint.
>
> because I like to salvage and recycle I don't expect to be anywhere near
> the 50k your guy states. but there is no limit to what you can put into one
> of these.
> if you haven't already read this
> http://gmcmotorhome.info/buygmc.html
>
> and here is another good spot to spend a couple of days.
> http://www.bdub.net/GMCLinks.html
>
> there is a saying of pay now or pay later. in this case (the GMC) this may
> or may not hold true. do your home work and the right one will come along.
> I looked for about a year. kicked a few tires made a couple of offers and
> finally found one that fit us. both in price and in layout. we have 2
> barrel chairs where most have a dinette. and they are on the passengers
> side which doesn't seem to show up in any of the Palm beach layouts. I
> think the chairs came from a palm beach alright just not this one.
> --
> Adam Raeburn
> Rothesay, NB
> 1976 Austin Mini
> 1977 GMC Palm Beach motorhome
>
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Re: [GMCnet] new to forum; probably easy (to you) questions [message #163956 is a reply to message #163954] Fri, 23 March 2012 10:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Welcome to our group. If you can, buy from a club member who has been using the coach. A rolling coach is much better than a sitting coach, pay the difference. You can make any mod to a GMC you want, just look through our photosite. Any information that one needs can be obtained right here within this group. I am no mechanic so frequently I am in here looking for help.
As I type we are at the Spring convention for the GMC Motorhome group in Shawnee Ok. There are other owners in your area. Check the Black List. Several in that area are not on the list.
Keep us posted on your decision.
Life is good when you own a GMC Motorhome.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] new to forum; probably easy (to you) questions [message #163957 is a reply to message #163935] Fri, 23 March 2012 10:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Of course its only a thought and not much help but with the help of the forum, and all these eyes and ears out there, you'd easily be able to find a coach in good shape. It can really dampen the spirit to get into a coach thats way over your head. Recently there was a lot of talk about coaches for sale. Some of which are so inexpensive that you can modify them into anything you like and keep your cost reasonable.
23ft are more rare, and after a lot of thought about switching to a 26ft I personally would never do that. But hang around on the forum. I'm not sure if traveling is a issue, but if not then I'm certain you'd be able to find a great coach from all the research thats done by members here.


***"Gettin There"-1973 23' Sequoia- Michael, Onans smell, "Go solar/wind power!"
Re: [GMCnet] new to forum; probably easy (to you) questions [message #163960 is a reply to message #163954] Fri, 23 March 2012 11:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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""Hope this is replying to all of you.

You all are amazing!!!! Actually, this "community" I've heard about is one
of the things that attracts me to the GMC. I have done quite a bit of
homework but some of the terminology is new to me so I don't necessarily
comprehend. I have read the suggested page, but just re-read it.

""

Welcome Stacy! If at all possible, I would try to find a GMC owner in your area and go and look at some of these. Personally, I have been surprised how different a coach may be when seeing it in person vs reading the descriptions--much more so than a car. Also, these things have a lot of specific things to look out for--some serious, others no big deal. I'm glad you have the bug, but take your time because there are many very nice coaches out there. BTW, I went to Hopkins High school if you are in that area Smile


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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I'm in the east metro; Hopkins is about 25 or so miles.

What are the serious things I should look for that I'm might not know to
ask about?

Thanks

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Bob de Kruyff <NEXT2POOL@aol.com> wrote:

>
>
> ""Hope this is replying to all of you.
>
> You all are amazing!!!! Actually, this "community" I've heard about is one
> of the things that attracts me to the GMC. I have done quite a bit of
> homework but some of the terminology is new to me so I don't necessarily
> comprehend. I have read the suggested page, but just re-read it.
>
> ""
>
> Welcome Stacy! If at all possible, I would try to find a GMC owner in your
> area and go and look at some of these. Personally, I have been surprised
> how different a coach may be when seeing it in person vs reading the
> descriptions--much more so than a car. Also, these things have a lot of
> specific things to look out for--some serious, others no big deal. I'm glad
> you have the bug, but take your time because there are many very nice
> coaches out there. BTW, I went to Hopkins High school if you are in that
> area :)
> --
> Bob de Kruyff
> 78 Eleganza
> Chandler, AZ
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Re: [GMCnet] new to forum; probably easy (to you) questions [message #163966 is a reply to message #163963] Fri, 23 March 2012 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bob de Kruyff   United States
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""I'm in the east metro; Hopkins is about 25 or so miles.

What are the serious things I should look for that I'm might not know to
ask about?

Thanks

""

The biggest issue to look for is frame rust. I suspect some one here can supply a link to pictures, but one common area is just around the rear wheel area which we call the bogie part of the frame. There is a double layer there that can corrode and cause rear wheel alignment problems. Some require a complete frame replacement which can run around $7000 minimum. There are also spots in the front frame or "clip" that can rust and require extensive repair. I don't mean to scare you but it soes happen depending on where the coach has lived. Water leaks are common and can cause extensive rot of the wooden floor. Those are a couple to look out for--then there is wiring, and so on. These things have all of the components of a house and an automobile. The good part is that almost all parts are readily available and repairs are usually very straight forward.


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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Hi Stacie, welcome to this group of nuts. One wag has said that "we all have $25000.00 coaches." I think that's pretty accurate. I paid $8000.00 for my '73 in 2003, have accomplished most of the work myself, and have about $15,000.00 more into it. It is now reliable but I still have some things to work on, as we all have. I don't think it's the year, as I love my '73, but the condition of the unit. As noted, try to get a club member to look at your choices, and continue to ask questions on here.







geo groth '73 260 Sequoia Carson City Nevada 89703
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Any thoughts based on the limited descriptions I gave of the two units,
anyone?

I have to say it again: I am just so impressed with this bunch.

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:11 PM, George Groth <grggroth@sbcglobal.net>wrote:

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>
> Hi Stacie, welcome to this group of nuts. One wag has said that "we all
> have $25000.00 coaches." I think that's pretty accurate. I paid $8000.00
> for my '73 in 2003, have accomplished most of the work myself, and have
> about $15,000.00 more into it. It is now reliable but I still have some
> things to work on, as we all have. I don't think it's the year, as I love
> my '73, but the condition of the unit. As noted, try to get a club member
> to look at your choices, and continue to ask questions on here.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] new to forum; probably easy (to you) questions [message #163970 is a reply to message #163969] Fri, 23 March 2012 12:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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""I'm in the east metro; Hopkins is about 25 or so miles.

What are the serious things I should look for that I'm might not know to
ask about?

Thanks

""

The 76 so far.


Bob de Kruyff
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No doubt about it...without seeing the units first hand makes any recomendation a risky thing to do...that having been said, I have a 78 and a 76 stretch (total rebuild). The factory upgrades associated with the later units could be called minor but significant like the dash air improvements, air system and so on. As, as so many have said, the decision should be about the condition of what you are looking at. So much is dependent on what you want, what you can afford to put into the coach over time and your willingness and mechanical ability. In short...you have to do your homework and make the decision..."WE" as a comunity have made commitments to support each other (and you) in whatever ways we can. Whatever your choice, jump in and welcom to the asylum !!
Dan...who thinks this has turned into an obsession !!
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Stacy, i am in st.cloud. . Give me a call. Lets talk about what you are looking at. 612-nine-six-one- 4196.

my family has owned my GMC for a year and a half. but i am pretty mechanical and have gone though alot of it's systems.

I would be happy to talk to you about the one's you are looking at. or if i can find the time, would be happy to go out and look at them with you.

I am around this weekend, and will be working on mine. if you want a first hand look at one. come take the hour drive north to come take a look.

let me know what i can do to help in your quest.


Jon Roche 75 palm beach EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now. St. Cloud, MN http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/

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welcome to the gmc think bank. mickey - palm beach 77, no ash tray.



On Mar 23, 2012, at 10:21 AM, stacy bartlett wrote:

> Any thoughts based on the limited descriptions I gave of the two units,
> anyone?
>
> I have to say it again: I am just so impressed with this bunch.
>
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:11 PM, George Groth <grggroth@sbcglobal.net>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi Stacie, welcome to this group of nuts. One wag has said that "we all
>> have $25000.00 coaches." I think that's pretty accurate. I paid $8000.00
>> for my '73 in 2003, have accomplished most of the work myself, and have
>> about $15,000.00 more into it. It is now reliable but I still have some
>> things to work on, as we all have. I don't think it's the year, as I love
>> my '73, but the condition of the unit. As noted, try to get a club member
>> to look at your choices, and continue to ask questions on here.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> geo groth '73 260 Sequoia
>> Carson City Nevada 89703
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Welcome Sir: here is brocures on how they looked new.
[http://www.bdub.net/publications/
the 73-74 had some external rivets, 1st series ac and point ignition, 455. 75-76 2nd series ac, better, HEI ignition,455. 77-78 3rd series ac, best, late 77-78 went to 403 cu in small block engine. here are the manuals if you want to see how they are bolted together.
http://www.bdub.net/factory-manuals.html







quote title=stacy bartlett wrote on Fri, 23 March 2012 09:59]My family is considering purchasing a GMC. I've heard mostly great, but a
few concerning things. Thought I'd ask the experts! Smile

1. We are looking at a '73 sequoia and '76 Eleganza II. A fellow who runs
a reputable GMC restoration company suggested a newby stay away from the
73's. Said vast improvements were made starting in '75. Thoughts?

2. The Sequoia does not have couch/bunks. Can those be installed?

3. Are there two different types of toilets? The same, in-the-know fellow
said recylcing toilets were put in some, but not many of the units, and
that most people who have them don't like them. Is this the "macerator"
I've seen in some posts?

4. Same guy told me it would take $60,000 to make a unit road worthy; that
all rubber parts, and there are many, need to be replaced and that if there
is rust, that would take $12000.

5. Any additional tips, suggestions, or thoughts?

Thanks so much! Stacy
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