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[GMCnet] Pulling a Trailer with a GMC [message #162601] Sat, 10 March 2012 16:14 Go to next message
DennyR is currently offline  DennyR   United States
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Members,

I purchased a 76 Birchaven last summer.
it's in really nice original shape.
62K miles

We drove it to Hershey last fall and showed it at the AACA meet.
It qualified for HPOF and was certified. Yea! (Historical Preservation of Original Features)

My question is Can I pull a car trailer with the GMC?
If so what kind of trailer hitch do I need?
Any insight would be appreciated.
Thanks

Denny Robish
1015 Janet Ave N.W.
N. Canton, Ohio 44720
AACA # 900753
BCA # 43156
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Re: [GMCnet] Pulling a Trailer with a GMC [message #162606 is a reply to message #162601] Sat, 10 March 2012 17:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
C Boyd is currently offline  C Boyd   United States
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Welcome to the net. Sure you can pull a car trailer.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=31746&title=dixielanders-bristol-2&cat=500
Mr Merrell makes a good hitch.
http://www.bdub.net/blainemerrell/index.html







DennyR wrote on Sat, 10 March 2012 17:14

Members,

I purchased a 76 Birchaven last summer.
it's in really nice original shape.
62K miles

We drove it to Hershey last fall and showed it at the AACA meet.
It qualified for HPOF and was certified. Yea! (Historical Preservation of Original Features)

My question is Can I pull a car trailer with the GMC?
If so what kind of trailer hitch do I need?
Any insight would be appreciated.
Thanks

Denny Robish
1015 Janet Ave N.W.
N. Canton, Ohio 44720
AACA # 900753
BCA # 43156
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East Tennessee
Re: [GMCnet] Pulling a Trailer with a GMC [message #162610 is a reply to message #162606] Sat, 10 March 2012 17:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil   United States
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Or - you can two an enclosed trailer. A 3.70 final drive helps a lot.

http://tinyurl.com/7jyodhy
or

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=43141&title=big-trailer&cat=6016


Neil
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Los Angeles
Re: [GMCnet] Pulling a Trailer with a GMC [message #162611 is a reply to message #162610] Sat, 10 March 2012 17:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Anyone have a pic of Walt's trailer?? <VBG>
Yes, Denny, you certainly can.

Mike in NS



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>
>
> Or - you can two an enclosed trailer. A 3.70 final drive helps a lot.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/7jyodhy
> or
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=43141&title=big-trailer&cat=6016
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Re: [GMCnet] Pulling a Trailer with a GMC [message #162624 is a reply to message #162601] Sat, 10 March 2012 20:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DennyR wrote on Sat, 10 March 2012 15:14

Members,

I purchased a 76 Birchaven last summer.
it's in really nice original shape.
62K miles

We drove it to Hershey last fall and showed it at the AACA meet.
It qualified for HPOF and was certified. Yea! (Historical Preservation of Original Features)

My question is Can I pull a car trailer with the GMC?
If so what kind of trailer hitch do I need?
Any insight would be appreciated.
Thanks

Denny Robish
1015 Janet Ave N.W.
N. Canton, Ohio 44720
AACA # 900753
BCA # 43156
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I was at Hershey last year too (without the coach) and may have seen your coach. Here is what I tow with my 26 footer:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=34785

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=37015

I have a through-the-bumper hitch, that I built, similar to this one:

http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/730

You will need to have a hitch that will handle 200 - 400 pounds of tongue weight. I try to keep my tongue weight down to 5 - 7% of the trailer weight. I have had absolutely no issues with trailer sway at this weight. With front wheel drive, you need to keep the weight on the back bumper as low as you SAFELY can. Too much weight on the rear will have a cantilever effect on the front and can reduce traction and have a negative effect on the steering.


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member

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Re: [GMCnet] Pulling a Trailer with a GMC [message #162631 is a reply to message #162601] Sat, 10 March 2012 21:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bob de Kruyff   United States
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DennyR wrote on Sat, 10 March 2012 15:14

Members,

I purchased a 76 Birchaven last summer.
it's in really nice original shape.
62K miles

We drove it to Hershey last fall and showed it at the AACA meet.
It qualified for HPOF and was certified. Yea! (Historical Preservation of Original Features)

My question is Can I pull a car trailer with the GMC?
If so what kind of trailer hitch do I need?
Any insight would be appreciated.
Thanks

Denny Robish
1015 Janet Ave N.W.
N. Canton, Ohio 44720
AACA # 900753
BCA # 43156
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Denny--I have a GMC and I am also in the towing business. You have recieved some very un-informed and dangerous advice from some of our netters.Pulling a car hauler with a vehicle on it is one of the most complex combinations that is available. I would like to know what trailer you are using and what you are placing on it,


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
Re: [GMCnet] Pulling a Trailer with a GMC [message #162643 is a reply to message #162631] Sun, 11 March 2012 07:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl S. is currently offline  Carl S.   United States
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Bob de Kruyff wrote on Sat, 10 March 2012 20:08

DennyR wrote on Sat, 10 March 2012 15:14

Members,

I purchased a 76 Birchaven last summer.
it's in really nice original shape.
62K miles

We drove it to Hershey last fall and showed it at the AACA meet.
It qualified for HPOF and was certified. Yea! (Historical Preservation of Original Features)

My question is Can I pull a car trailer with the GMC?
If so what kind of trailer hitch do I need?
Any insight would be appreciated.
Thanks

Denny Robish
1015 Janet Ave N.W.
N. Canton, Ohio 44720
AACA # 900753
BCA # 43156
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Denny--I have a GMC and I am also in the towing business. You have recieved some very un-informed and dangerous advice from some of our netters.Pulling a car hauler with a vehicle on it is one of the most complex combinations that is available. I would like to know what trailer you are using and what you are placing on it,



Okay...Since I was the only person offering any trailer towing advice, My post must be the one Mr. De Kruyff is referring to. I don't have a fancy engineerin' degree, and I'm NOT in the towing business, but I DO own five trailers, including a car hauler, a tilt bed, a dump trailer, and an office trailer, that I have towed (without a single incident) for thousands of miles with various motor homes and 3/4 ton to 2-1/2 ton trucks, over a period of nearly 40 years. Nevertheless, I will respectfully withdraw my "uninformed and dangerous" advice, and will defer to the expert. Please disregard my earlier post.


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: [GMCnet] Pulling a Trailer with a GMC [message #162656 is a reply to message #162611] Sun, 11 March 2012 11:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kingsley Coach wrote on Sat, 10 March 2012 17:55

Anyone have a pic of Walt's trailer?? <VBG>
Yes, Denny, you certainly can.

Mike in NS
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Walt Taylor pic Wink
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=24370&title=taylor-rotorsports&cat=3092


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Re: [GMCnet] Pulling a Trailer with a GMC [message #162666 is a reply to message #162631] Sun, 11 March 2012 13:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DennyR is currently offline  DennyR   United States
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Bob,

I don't have a trailer as yet.
I have a collection of old cars, 40 Buick Century Touring, 48 Special
Sedanette.
Those are probably the heaviest.
I was planning on getting an enclosed trailer.
Looking to take the cars to shows meets and tours.
Any and all information appreciated.

Denny




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>
>
> DennyR wrote on Sat, 10 March 2012 15:14
>> Members,
>>
>> I purchased a 76 Birchaven last summer.
>> it's in really nice original shape.
>> 62K miles
>>
>> We drove it to Hershey last fall and showed it at the AACA meet.
>> It qualified for HPOF and was certified. Yea! (Historical Preservation
>> of Original Features)
>>
>> My question is Can I pull a car trailer with the GMC?
>> If so what kind of trailer hitch do I need?
>> Any insight would be appreciated.
>> Thanks
>>
>> Denny Robish
>> 1015 Janet Ave N.W.
>> N. Canton, Ohio 44720
>> AACA # 900753
>> BCA # 43156
>> _______________________________________________
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> Denny--I have a GMC and I am also in the towing business. You have
> recieved some very un-informed and dangerous advice from some of our
> netters.Pulling a car hauler with a vehicle on it is one of the most
> complex combinations that is available. I would like to know what trailer
> you are using and what you are placing on it,
> --
> Bob de Kruyff
> 78 Eleganza
> Chandler, AZ
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Re: [GMCnet] Pulling a Trailer with a GMC [message #162673 is a reply to message #162666] Sun, 11 March 2012 15:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DennyR wrote on Sun, 11 March 2012 14:52

Bob,

I don't have a trailer as yet.
I have a collection of old cars, 40 Buick Century Touring, 48 Special
Sedanette.
Those are probably the heaviest.
I was planning on getting an enclosed trailer.
Looking to take the cars to shows meets and tours.
Any and all information appreciated.

Denny





Denny - I have a '48 Buick Super Convertible. I would never put that much weight on the tail end of a GMC. Although I am "in between" coaches right now, I can't imagine a scenario that would cause me to do that. I know there are those out there that would argue with me, but 3000# seems to be the sweet spot for a toad.

Choose to ignore, but you'd better stock up on transmissions. Smile

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=42695&title=who-is-older-2c-the-man&cat=5551



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'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
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Re: [GMCnet] Pulling a Trailer with a GMC [message #162675 is a reply to message #162666] Sun, 11 March 2012 15:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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Denny,

When I bought my coach I thought I would want to tow -- my trailer weighs about 4K and my little cars about 2K. But, I decided against it.

Many GMCers tow -- four down, and under 2K lbs. -- older Trackers and Samurais. Some tow on trailers because it suits their purpoae, and they accept the added wear and tear that may result (one of those mentioned in previous posts is on his third transmission). And a few tow enclosed trailers with heavy cars.

Those that tow heavy usually (not all) opt for a transmission cooler, different final drive ratio, through bumper hitch -- which can approach $2500 just for the parts. Then they might want a tach/vac to keep an eye on how hard they are working the coach as well as a transmission temp gauge. It is not worth $3000 to me to be able to tow heavy -- and then still worry about the strain I am putting on my 39 year old coach.

My daily driver has a 9K lb tow capacity with special factory equipment --

Welcome to the GMCnet -- would like to see photos of your coach.
Consider posting on the http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/


Dennis


DennyR wrote on Sun, 11 March 2012 13:52

Bob,

I don't have a trailer as yet.
I have a collection of old cars, 40 Buick Century Touring, 48 Special
Sedanette.
Those are probably the heaviest.
I was planning on getting an enclosed trailer.
Looking to take the cars to shows meets and tours.
Any and all information appreciated.

Denny





Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
Re: [GMCnet] Pulling a Trailer with a GMC [message #162731 is a reply to message #162666] Mon, 12 March 2012 09:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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That is quite a load for a GMC. There are guys that tow that much but the
one guy we're sure of lives in TX and virtually all of his towing is on
very flat land.
You need to be very careful as to what type of receiver hitch you install
on your GMC. You're going to need one that also ties into the frame ahead
of the rear clip. That's a lot of weight for even a 1/2 T pickup and the
GMC was never designed, or geared for that.

On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 11:52 AM, DennyR <DennyR@neo.rr.com> wrote:

> Bob,
>
> I don't have a trailer as yet.
> I have a collection of old cars, 40 Buick Century Touring, 48 Special
> Sedanette.
> Those are probably the heaviest.
> I was planning on getting an enclosed trailer.
> Looking to take the cars to shows meets and tours.
> Any and all information appreciated.
>
> Denny
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob de Kruyff" <NEXT2POOL@AOL.COM>
> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 11:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Pulling a Trailer with a GMC
>
>
> >
> >
> > DennyR wrote on Sat, 10 March 2012 15:14
> >> Members,
> >>
> >> I purchased a 76 Birchaven last summer.
> >> it's in really nice original shape.
> >> 62K miles
> >>
> >> We drove it to Hershey last fall and showed it at the AACA meet.
> >> It qualified for HPOF and was certified. Yea! (Historical Preservation
> >> of Original Features)
> >>
> >> My question is Can I pull a car trailer with the GMC?
> >> If so what kind of trailer hitch do I need?
> >> Any insight would be appreciated.
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Denny Robish
> >> 1015 Janet Ave N.W.
> >> N. Canton, Ohio 44720
> >> AACA # 900753
> >> BCA # 43156
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> GMCnet mailing list
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> >
> > Denny--I have a GMC and I am also in the towing business. You have
> > recieved some very un-informed and dangerous advice from some of our
> > netters.Pulling a car hauler with a vehicle on it is one of the most
> > complex combinations that is available. I would like to know what trailer
> > you are using and what you are placing on it,
> > --
> > Bob de Kruyff
> > 78 Eleganza
> > Chandler, AZ
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Re: [GMCnet] Pulling a Trailer with a GMC [message #162736 is a reply to message #162731] Mon, 12 March 2012 10:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So to summarize it sounds like lower gears, better brakes, tie the hitch to the frame securely, and don't tow too much.

I wonder how much weight Jim K tows with his rig - that Olds minivan stuffed with a passel of goods can't be too light. Of course he has low gears, reaction arm brakes, and a great hitch. Of course that twin turbo Caddy engine tugs that along like a rocket powered locomotive.

Larry Davick
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Re: [GMCnet] Pulling a Trailer with a GMC [message #162747 is a reply to message #162736] Mon, 12 March 2012 11:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ljdavick wrote on Mon, 12 March 2012 10:30

So to summarize it sounds like lower gears, better brakes, tie the hitch to the frame securely, and don't tow too much.

I wonder how much weight Jim K tows with his rig - that Olds minivan stuffed with a passel of goods can't be too light. Of course he has low gears, reaction arm brakes, and a great hitch. Of course that twin turbo Caddy engine tugs that along like a rocket powered locomotive.

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Larry, I find it very difficult to hold my tongue on this one. Notice how often Jim is able to tow that van with the big Caddy and turbo stuff. I think enough said. Laughing
Dan,
hoping he has it ready for the trip to Shawnee next week.


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Re: [GMCnet] Pulling a Trailer with a GMC [message #162797 is a reply to message #162731] Mon, 12 March 2012 21:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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About 15 years ago, I pulled a 32' enclosed car trailer out to
Springfield,
Illinois and back. Did it with our '77 Eleganza(455). No
trouble, but I
did sweat right-hand turns. I built the hitch on the
hell-for-strong system.

Gary Kosier
77EII & 77PB
Newark, Ohio

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From: "Steven Ferguson" <botiemad11@gmail.com>
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> That is quite a load for a GMC. There are guys that tow that
> much but the
> one guy we're sure of lives in TX and virtually all of his
> towing is on
> very flat land.
> You need to be very careful as to what type of receiver hitch
> you install
> on your GMC. You're going to need one that also ties into the
> frame ahead
> of the rear clip. That's a lot of weight for even a 1/2 T
> pickup and the
> GMC was never designed, or geared for that.
>
> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 11:52 AM, DennyR <DennyR@neo.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Bob,
>>
>> I don't have a trailer as yet.
>> I have a collection of old cars, 40 Buick Century Touring, 48
>> Special
>> Sedanette.
>> Those are probably the heaviest.
>> I was planning on getting an enclosed trailer.
>> Looking to take the cars to shows meets and tours.
>> Any and all information appreciated.
>>
>> Denny
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bob de Kruyff" <NEXT2POOL@AOL.COM>
>> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 11:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Pulling a Trailer with a GMC
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > DennyR wrote on Sat, 10 March 2012 15:14
>> >> Members,
>> >>
>> >> I purchased a 76 Birchaven last summer.
>> >> it's in really nice original shape.
>> >> 62K miles
>> >>
>> >> We drove it to Hershey last fall and showed it at the AACA
>> >> meet.
>> >> It qualified for HPOF and was certified. Yea! (Historical
>> >> Preservation
>> >> of Original Features)
>> >>
>> >> My question is Can I pull a car trailer with the GMC?
>> >> If so what kind of trailer hitch do I need?
>> >> Any insight would be appreciated.
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> Denny Robish
>> >> 1015 Janet Ave N.W.
>> >> N. Canton, Ohio 44720
>> >> AACA # 900753
>> >> BCA # 43156
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> GMCnet mailing list
>> >> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>> >> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>> >
>> > Denny--I have a GMC and I am also in the towing business.
>> > You have
>> > recieved some very un-informed and dangerous advice from
>> > some of our
>> > netters.Pulling a car hauler with a vehicle on it is one of
>> > the most
>> > complex combinations that is available. I would like to know
>> > what trailer
>> > you are using and what you are placing on it,
>> > --
>> > Bob de Kruyff
>> > 78 Eleganza
>> > Chandler, AZ
>> > _______________________________________________
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>
>
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> they have
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> citizen.
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I saw a rocket powered locomotive back in the 60s. OK, CRS, it
might have been a jet.

Gary Kosier

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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Pulling a Trailer with a GMC


> So to summarize it sounds like lower gears, better brakes, tie
> the hitch to the frame securely, and don't tow too much.
>
> I wonder how much weight Jim K tows with his rig - that Olds
> minivan stuffed with a passel of goods can't be too light. Of
> course he has low gears, reaction arm brakes, and a great
> hitch. Of course that twin turbo Caddy engine tugs that along
> like a rocket powered locomotive.
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> Larry Davick
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Re: [GMCnet] Pulling a Trailer with a GMC [message #162826 is a reply to message #162747] Mon, 12 March 2012 23:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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He doesn't tow that Olds van.
He uses the Olds van to PUSH the GMC.


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Re: [GMCnet] Pulling a Trailer with a GMC [message #162828 is a reply to message #162826] Mon, 12 March 2012 23:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ljdavick is currently offline  ljdavick   United States
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Ouch!

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On Mar 12, 2012, at 9:49 PM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:

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> He doesn't tow that Olds van.
> He uses the Olds van to PUSH the GMC.
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Re: [GMCnet] Pulling a Trailer with a GMC [message #162897 is a reply to message #162643] Tue, 13 March 2012 19:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bob de Kruyff   United States
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""Okay...Since I was the only person offering any trailer towing advice, My post must be the one Mr. De Kruyff is referring to. I don't have a fancy engineerin' degree, and I'm NOT in the towing business, but I DO own five trailers, including a car hauler, a tilt bed, a dump trailer, and an office trailer, that I have towed (without a single incident) for thousands of miles with various motor homes and 3/4 ton to 2-1/2 ton trucks, over a period of nearly 40 years. Nevertheless, I will respectfully withdraw my "uninformed and dangerous" advice, and will defer to the expert. Please disregard my earlier post. ""

That was not the intent Carl since I had to enter the discussion somewhere. I was reacting more to all of the advice I have seen over the last few years and there is a lot of mis-information. The issue that is the most difficult is pulling a car hauler with a car or truck on it. The regular tailer or car 4 down is pretty straight forward. We have pretty complicated equations that we have to use to "qualify" a car and hauler and match it to the vehicle pulling it. Generally, you need 10 to 15% tongue weight with one of those, but a front heavy (like a minivan) vehicle reacts differently than a somewhat balanced vehicle like a Suburban. Then you run into the smaller cars like Mini's that have most of the vehicle positioned forward of the the trailer's axles. We even have to match different versions of car haulers to the particular vehicle. Axle positioning and tongue length are critical. Additionally you may need a hitch that can handle a 750# tongue load. Most of the hitches I see for the GMC are not rated--even those available commercially. If you ever experience trailer sway you will become a believer. All trailers have what is called critical speed. We design everything to have a critical speed well outside of any national speed limits. A misloaded trailer can move the critical speed from 90mph down to 50mph, and when that happens even the most experienced driver is done.


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Re: [GMCnet] Pulling a Trailer with a GMC [message #162924 is a reply to message #162897] Tue, 13 March 2012 22:07 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Carl S. is currently offline  Carl S.   United States
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Bob de Kruyff wrote on Tue, 13 March 2012 17:49

""Okay...Since I was the only person offering any trailer towing advice, My post must be the one Mr. De Kruyff is referring to. I don't have a fancy engineerin' degree, and I'm NOT in the towing business, but I DO own five trailers, including a car hauler, a tilt bed, a dump trailer, and an office trailer, that I have towed (without a single incident) for thousands of miles with various motor homes and 3/4 ton to 2-1/2 ton trucks, over a period of nearly 40 years. Nevertheless, I will respectfully withdraw my "uninformed and dangerous" advice, and will defer to the expert. Please disregard my earlier post. ""

That was not the intent Carl since I had to enter the discussion somewhere. I was reacting more to all of the advice I have seen over the last few years and there is a lot of mis-information. The issue that is the most difficult is pulling a car hauler with a car or truck on it. The regular tailer or car 4 down is pretty straight forward. We have pretty complicated equations that we have to use to "qualify" a car and hauler and match it to the vehicle pulling it. Generally, you need 10 to 15% tongue weight with one of those, but a front heavy (like a minivan) vehicle reacts differently than a somewhat balanced vehicle like a Suburban. Then you run into the smaller cars like Mini's that have most of the vehicle positioned forward of the the trailer's axles. We even have to match different versions of car haulers to the particular vehicle. Axle positioning and tongue length are critical. Additionally you may need a hitch that can handle a 750# tongue load. Most of the hitches I see for the GMC are not rated--even those available commercially. If you ever experience trailer sway you will become a believer. All trailers have what is called critical speed. We design everything to have a critical speed well outside of any national speed limits. A misloaded trailer can move the critical speed from 90mph down to 50mph, and when that happens even the most experienced driver is done.



Bob,

Since this was a brand new discussion on this subject from a brand new questioner, It's hard to believe you were reacting to anything else besides my post. Sorry I took it personally. But, like I said, I defer to the expert. I only know that my method of towing my Jeep, on my trailer, with my GMC works. I'm not sure I would feel comfortable towing a heavier vehicle on a larger trailer, so you're absolutely right on with your advice. I'm sure each situation presents it's own challenges and needs to be addressed accordingly.


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