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BP Gas commercial is twisting truth [message #160338] Tue, 14 February 2012 17:16 Go to next message
JohnL455 is currently offline  JohnL455   United States
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How does BP get away with this misleading commercial where you " Imagine one car filled with low detergent gasoline and another filled with BP gas with Invigorate--- the BP car will go farther"... or something to that effect. Yes, that scenario is true, except that low detergent gasoline is not sold in the USA last time I checked. Nor has it been available in decades.
Am I correct? All gas is detergent as speced by the API. Some brands may have more added than the required minimum, but then you are burning more addtives, which I don't think move you down the road as well as fuel.


John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
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Re: [GMCnet] BP Gas commercial is twisting truth [message #160341 is a reply to message #160338] Tue, 14 February 2012 18:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hnielsen2 is currently offline  hnielsen2   United States
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Chevron/Texaco
Tell us the same thing.
I do get a little better mileage on the brand name gas over the low cost
brands at Costco or ARCO in our Durango 4X4.
Can't tell the difference in the GMC, El Camino or 1950 Chevy P/U with a 261
Not worth the higher cost.
Howard

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>
>
> How does BP get away with this misleading commercial where you " Imagine
> one car filled with low detergent gasoline and another filled with BP gas
> with Invigorate--- the BP car will go farther"... or something to that
> effect. Yes, that scenario is true, except that low detergent gasoline is
> not sold in the USA last time I checked. Nor has it been available in
> decades.
> Am I correct? All gas is detergent as speced by the API. Some brands may
> have more added than the required minimum, but then you are burning more
> addtives, which I don't think move you down the road as well as fuel.
> --
> John Lebetski
> Chicago, IL
> 77 Eleganza II
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Re: BP Gas commercial is twisting truth [message #160358 is a reply to message #160338] Tue, 14 February 2012 21:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GeorgeRud is currently offline  GeorgeRud   United States
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How about the benifits of nitrogen or "Invigiorate" in the fuel?

George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
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Re: [GMCnet] BP Gas commercial is twisting truth [message #160380 is a reply to message #160341] Wed, 15 February 2012 08:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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Chevron got nailed on that Techron IIRC.

On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Howard and Sue <hnielsen2@cox.net> wrote:

> Chevron/Texaco
> Tell us the same thing.
> I do get a little better mileage on the brand name gas over the low cost
> brands at Costco or ARCO in our Durango 4X4.
> Can't tell the difference in the GMC, El Camino or 1950 Chevy P/U with a
> 261
> Not worth the higher cost.
> Howard
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John R. Lebetski" <gransport@aol.com>
> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 15:16
> Subject: [GMCnet] BP Gas commercial is twisting truth
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>
> >
> >
> > How does BP get away with this misleading commercial where you " Imagine
> > one car filled with low detergent gasoline and another filled with BP gas
> > with Invigorate--- the BP car will go farther"... or something to that
> > effect. Yes, that scenario is true, except that low detergent gasoline is
> > not sold in the USA last time I checked. Nor has it been available in
> > decades.
> > Am I correct? All gas is detergent as speced by the API. Some brands
> may
> > have more added than the required minimum, but then you are burning more
> > addtives, which I don't think move you down the road as well as fuel.
> > --
> > John Lebetski
> > Chicago, IL
> > 77 Eleganza II
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Re: [GMCnet] BP Gas commercial is twisting truth [message #160382 is a reply to message #160338] Wed, 15 February 2012 08:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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John,

I'm sure whatever BP (or any other company that advertizes on TV) has their
legal beagles review every word!

Also because John Q. Public BELIEVES what they are told on TV.

How many times have you seen "as seen on TV" in printed ads.

Regards,
Rob M.


-----Original Message-----
From: John R. Lebetski


How does BP get away with this misleading commercial where you " Imagine one
car filled with low detergent gasoline and another filled with BP gas with
Invigorate--- the BP car will go farther"... or something to that effect.
Yes, that scenario is true, except that low detergent gasoline is not sold
in the USA last time I checked. Nor has it been available in decades.
Am I correct? All gas is detergent as speced by the API. Some brands may
have more added than the required minimum, but then you are burning more
addtives, which I don't think move you down the road as well as fuel.
--
John

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Re: [GMCnet] BP Gas commercial is twisting truth [message #160384 is a reply to message #160382] Wed, 15 February 2012 08:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jp Benson is currently offline  Jp Benson   United States
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BP?  Twist the Truth?  Say it aint so.  I hope they haven't twisted the truth on the Gulf oil disaster.




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>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:39 AM
>Subject: Re: [GMCnet] BP Gas commercial is twisting truth
>
>John,
>
>I'm sure whatever BP (or any other company that advertizes on TV) has their
>legal beagles review every word!
>
>Also because John Q. Public BELIEVES what they are told on TV.
>
>How many times have you seen "as seen on TV" in printed ads.
>
>Regards,
>Rob M.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John R. Lebetski
>
>
>How does BP get away with this misleading commercial where you " Imagine one
>car filled with low detergent gasoline and another filled with BP gas with
>Invigorate--- the BP car will go farther"... or something to that effect.
>Yes, that scenario is true, except that low detergent gasoline is not sold
>in the USA last time I checked. Nor has it been available in decades.
>Am I correct?  All gas is detergent as speced by the API. Some brands may
>have more added than the required minimum, but then you are burning more
>addtives, which I don't think move you down the road as well as fuel.
>--
>John
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Re: BP Gas commercial is twisting truth [message #160413 is a reply to message #160338] Wed, 15 February 2012 12:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JohnL455 is currently offline  JohnL455   United States
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No what they are saying about their gas is fine. It's the other car they are filling with low detergent gas that is the issue. And where exactly do you by low detergent gas in the USA?

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
Re: [GMCnet] BP Gas commercial is twisting truth [message #160424 is a reply to message #160413] Wed, 15 February 2012 12:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Greg and April is currently offline  Greg and April   United States
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It's usually from no name gas stations / convenience stores that are trying
to cut corners - another source can be, grocery stores is another possible
source unless they are affiliated with brand name gasoline.

Sometimes it's just a matter of degree - having some detergents vs. having
allot of detergents.

Greg H.

I don't just march to the beat of my own drum - I have an entire brass band
to keep me company.

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Re: [GMCnet] BP Gas commercial is twisting truth [message #160431 is a reply to message #160384] Wed, 15 February 2012 13:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Keith V is currently offline  Keith V   United States
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Jp Benson wrote on Wed, 15 February 2012 08:46

BP?  Twist the Truth?  Say it aint so.  I hope they haven't twisted the truth on the Gulf oil disaster.




Wait...are you saying that a large corporation is lying and stealing from the public?

Next you'll be telling me the RIAA isn't out to help artists...


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Re: [GMCnet] BP Gas commercial is twisting truth [message #160440 is a reply to message #160431] Wed, 15 February 2012 15:11 Go to previous message
Jp Benson is currently offline  Jp Benson   United States
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Having swam, fished, skied, sailed and surfed in the Gulf of Mexico on hundreds of occasions I could be considered partial.  But then BP is a profit motivated corporation and sometimes profit motive can cloud judgment.

Hey maybe they just had some detergent/dispersant leftover and thought it might be a good idea to sell it as a gasoline additive:-----)


Well I don't want to get flamed for being too far off topic but follow the link below for an interesting and revealing article about blowout preventer reliability and the oil industry behavior in regard to costly testing procedures.

http://www.designnews.com/author.asp?section_id=1365&doc_id=236790

Paul




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>Jp Benson wrote on Wed, 15 February 2012 08:46
>> BP?  Twist the Truth?  Say it aint so.  I hope they haven't twisted the truth on the Gulf oil disaster.
>
>
>Wait...are you saying that a large corporation is lying and stealing from the public?
>
>Next you'll be telling me the RIAA isn't out to help artists...
>
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