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Sun, 05 February 2012 09:50  |
Steven Ferguson
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Netters,
A while back I bought a set of drill bits from fellow GMCer Ken Booth (Top
Gun Tool in Havasu City, AZ). I took his word for it that they're the best
drills he's ever used. Background: I drill a lot of holes. Repairing
those old crusty, rusty lower control arms requires using up a lot of
standard 5/16 and 3/8 bits and I've been through a ton of them. Enter
Norseman Magnum drill bits. I was so impressed with these that I ordered
another full set from Ken before he shut down his business completely.
Yesterday was the toughest test yet. I mounted 4, 5' sections of Etrack
to my auto trailer. Each required 60 holes to be drilled in the 1/4" steel
diamond plate runners on my trailer. One bit made it through 180 holes
before my grip on the drill tired and I moved off center while breaking
through. The bit didn't break, it bent. On every hole I was using max
speed and max feed so all of the chips were blue. The bit was so hot after
just a couple holes you could smell the paint burn everytime I indexed to a
new hole. These things are AWSOME and if you're looking for the last set
of bits you'll ever buy, I recommend you buy a set.
Oh, I forgot to mention that all the bits have three ground flats on them
so there is never any chuck slippage and they always go back in the hole in
the index they came out of. Incredible drill bits!
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Fathom the hypocrisy of a nation where every citizen must prove they have
health insurance......but not everyone has to prove they're a citizen.
Steve Ferguson
Sierra Vista, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Good Tools [message #159397 is a reply to message #159392] |
Sun, 05 February 2012 10:08  |
gmcrv1
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Steve,
Great evaluation and lead. How do I get them? Contact info?
Thanks,
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com>wrote:
> Netters,
> A while back I bought a set of drill bits from fellow GMCer Ken Booth (Top
> Gun Tool in Havasu City, AZ). I took his word for it that they're the best
> drills he's ever used. Background: I drill a lot of holes. Repairing
> those old crusty, rusty lower control arms requires using up a lot of
> standard 5/16 and 3/8 bits and I've been through a ton of them. Enter
> Norseman Magnum drill bits. I was so impressed with these that I ordered
> another full set from Ken before he shut down his business completely.
> Yesterday was the toughest test yet. I mounted 4, 5' sections of Etrack
> to my auto trailer. Each required 60 holes to be drilled in the 1/4" steel
> diamond plate runners on my trailer. One bit made it through 180 holes
> before my grip on the drill tired and I moved off center while breaking
> through. The bit didn't break, it bent. On every hole I was using max
> speed and max feed so all of the chips were blue. The bit was so hot after
> just a couple holes you could smell the paint burn everytime I indexed to a
> new hole. These things are AWSOME and if you're looking for the last set
> of bits you'll ever buy, I recommend you buy a set.
> Oh, I forgot to mention that all the bits have three ground flats on them
> so there is never any chuck slippage and they always go back in the hole in
> the index they came out of. Incredible drill bits!
>
> --
> Fathom the hypocrisy of a nation where every citizen must prove they have
> health insurance......but not everyone has to prove they're a citizen.
> Steve Ferguson
> Sierra Vista, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Good Tools [message #159426 is a reply to message #159392] |
Sun, 05 February 2012 18:23 |
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Ken,
There's a pile of stuff in the corner of our bedroom that's going to be heading for the USA. The good news is that I got my Frequent
Flyer Mile Business Class upgrade both directions and am allowed THREE seventy pound pieces of luggage Plus one 40 pound carry on
FREE!
I normally go to Goodwill or the Salvos and buy suitcases to bring back.
For those of you who travel be advised that airline luggage has limited coverage which is ridiculously low. Also if you pack
something in a box it is not insured to the same amount. If you have bought expensive souvenirs (like parts for a GMC) it's best to
buy travel insurance that covers baggage loss. Also it is a good idea to check and find out if your health insurance covers you when
you travel. Australian Medicare does not cover me outside Australia (except for a few countries that have reciprocal agreements -
the USA is not one of them)
Personally I buy the max cover I can when I travel, being an old fart - UNLIMITED medical is the most important. As far as the
luggage goes with that policy I'm covered up to $5000.00 and it would be hard to spend that much on stuff for a GMC that would fit
or be light enough to bring back as luggage! For example on my upcoming trip I will be gone for a bit over two months and the travel
insurance will cost $384.00 or $128 per month. That works out to $1536 a year and I'll bet a lot of you pay more than that. I
remember the year Helen and I retired (2001) we lived in Houston and group insurance for us that was 80 / 20 cost us $7500 and I was
55 and she was 54.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Henderson
I think the only HF bits I've ever bought are the step bits; they're pretty
good. Maybe not Greenlee good, but for a fraction the cost, darned good.
:-)
You about got your bag packed? Or maybe, coming this way, I should say
UNpacked?
Ken H.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Good Tools [message #159438 is a reply to message #159426] |
Sun, 05 February 2012 20:08 |
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Hi Rob.
Just a FYI, our med ins as Canadians age 68 & 71, not on any meds, for 4 months out of country in the U.S. cost us just over $1200.
Norm.
There's a pile of stuff in the corner of our bedroom that's going to be heading for the USA. The good news is that I got my Frequent
Flyer Mile Business Class upgrade both directions and am allowed THREE seventy pound pieces of luggage Plus one 40 pound carry on
FREE!
I normally go to Goodwill or the Salvos and buy suitcases to bring back.
For those of you who travel be advised that airline luggage has limited coverage which is ridiculously low. Also if you pack
something in a box it is not insured to the same amount. If you have bought expensive souvenirs (like parts for a GMC) it's best to
buy travel insurance that covers baggage loss. Also it is a good idea to check and find out if your health insurance covers you when
you travel. Australian Medicare does not cover me outside Australia (except for a few countries that have reciprocal agreements -
the USA is not one of them)
Personally I buy the max cover I can when I travel, being an old fart - UNLIMITED medical is the most important. As far as the
luggage goes with that policy I'm covered up to $5000.00 and it would be hard to spend that much on stuff for a GMC that would fit
or be light enough to bring back as luggage! For example on my upcoming trip I will be gone for a bit over two months and the travel
insurance will cost $384.00 or $128 per month. That works out to $1536 a year and I'll bet a lot of you pay more than that. I
remember the year Helen and I retired (2001) we lived in Houston and group insurance for us that was 80 / 20 cost us $7500 and I was
55 and she was 54.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Henderson
I think the only HF bits I've ever bought are the step bits; they're pretty
good. Maybe not Greenlee good, but for a fraction the cost, darned good.
:-)
You about got your bag packed? Or maybe, coming this way, I should say
UNpacked?
Ken H.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Good Tools [message #159442 is a reply to message #159432] |
Sun, 05 February 2012 17:43 |
Ken Henderson
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I think the only HF bits I've ever bought are the step bits; they're pretty
good. Maybe not Greenlee good, but for a fraction the cost, darned good.
:-)
You about got your bag packed? Or maybe, coming this way, I should say
UNpacked?
Ken H.
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> Ken,
>
> If you look just below the Norseman logo you'll see "Link to
> Manufacturer's site" click on it and it brings up:
>
> http://www.norsemandrill.com/
>
> I clicked on that link and went to the Norseman website to see if there
> was any sales blurb on the drills advising what material
> they were made of and all that I could find out is that they are High
> Speed Steel.
>
> I downloaded the 12mb catalog and found the same info there. No sales
> pitch! Amazing! I surmised that Steve has found a company that
> MUST make a damn good product!
>
> Now for some blasphemy!
>
> Along with a bunch of drill sets made in the USA I have one of these here
> in Sydney:
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/115-piece-cobalt-drill-bit-set-47653.html
>
> Despite it being made in China it is high quality. However, since it is
> cobalt you have to be carefully as the bits are easily
> snapped if you tilt the drill.
>
> I carry the set below in Double Trouble in the USA:
>
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/29-piece-135-degree-split-point-cobalt-drill-bit-set-36891.html
>
> It too is high quality.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Henderson
>
> You mean these? Is that a good price?
>
> http://www.fairburyfastener.com/norseman.htm
>
> Ken H.
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Good Tools [message #159447 is a reply to message #159438] |
Sun, 05 February 2012 20:43 |
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Norm,
Guess Aussies are healthier than Canadians! ;-)
I even declared that I have high cholesterol and high blood pressure and am on meds for it and it still only cost $384!
However, I did find out that once I turn 66 the price will go up. I ain't askin' as it will get me upset!
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Norm Bowker
Hi Rob.
Just a FYI, our med ins as Canadians age 68 & 71, not on any meds, for 4 months out of country in the U.S. cost us just over
$1200.
Norm.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Good Tools [message #159467 is a reply to message #159392] |
Mon, 06 February 2012 04:56 |
Kudzu
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I had a large project that required lots of 5/16 holes done on the drill
press. I was having a hard time getting through the steel and the bits
were hot, chips blue - screeching noise. Then a machinist friend told me
to slow the speed down and that I shouldn't be producing chips but long
curly-cues. Moved the belts on the drill's pulleys, lo and behold, the
drills started going through the steel like buttah... FWIW.
Dan in NC
Caregiver to a 1976 Eleganza II
"Tzetze Fly"
On 2/5/2012 10:50 AM, Steven Ferguson wrote:
> Netters,
> A while back I bought a set of drill bits from fellow GMCer Ken Booth (Top
> Gun Tool in Havasu City, AZ). I took his word for it that they're the best
> drills he's ever used. Background: I drill a lot of holes. Repairing
> those old crusty, rusty lower control arms requires using up a lot of
> standard 5/16 and 3/8 bits and I've been through a ton of them. Enter
> Norseman Magnum drill bits. I was so impressed with these that I ordered
> another full set from Ken before he shut down his business completely.
> Yesterday was the toughest test yet. I mounted 4, 5' sections of Etrack
> to my auto trailer. Each required 60 holes to be drilled in the 1/4" steel
> diamond plate runners on my trailer. One bit made it through 180 holes
> before my grip on the drill tired and I moved off center while breaking
> through. The bit didn't break, it bent. On every hole I was using max
> speed and max feed so all of the chips were blue. The bit was so hot after
> just a couple holes you could smell the paint burn everytime I indexed to a
> new hole. These things are AWSOME and if you're looking for the last set
> of bits you'll ever buy, I recommend you buy a set.
> Oh, I forgot to mention that all the bits have three ground flats on them
> so there is never any chuck slippage and they always go back in the hole in
> the index they came out of. Incredible drill bits!
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Good Tools [message #159468 is a reply to message #159467] |
Mon, 06 February 2012 06:07 |
Steven Ferguson
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Good to see this thread morph back to what it started out to be. The same
GMCer that sold me the bits, also sold me what he thought was the best
cutting oil he'd ever used or sold. I bought a bottle and it is something
else. You know when the bits are getting dull when they start to squeal
and no longer cut. One drop of this stuff and it begins cutting like new.
Incredible for tapping also. If I remember, I'll look up the brand later
when I head for the shop.
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 3:56 AM, Daniel Jarvis <TheJarvis@carolina.rr.com>wrote:
> I had a large project that required lots of 5/16 holes done on the drill
> press. I was having a hard time getting through the steel and the bits
> were hot, chips blue - screeching noise. Then a machinist friend told me
> to slow the speed down and that I shouldn't be producing chips but long
> curly-cues. Moved the belts on the drill's pulleys, lo and behold, the
> drills started going through the steel like buttah... FWIW.
>
> Dan in NC
> Caregiver to a 1976 Eleganza II
> "Tzetze Fly"
>
> On 2/5/2012 10:50 AM, Steven Ferguson wrote:
> > Netters,
> > A while back I bought a set of drill bits from fellow GMCer Ken Booth
> (Top
> > Gun Tool in Havasu City, AZ). I took his word for it that they're the
> best
> > drills he's ever used. Background: I drill a lot of holes. Repairing
> > those old crusty, rusty lower control arms requires using up a lot of
> > standard 5/16 and 3/8 bits and I've been through a ton of them. Enter
> > Norseman Magnum drill bits. I was so impressed with these that I ordered
> > another full set from Ken before he shut down his business completely.
> > Yesterday was the toughest test yet. I mounted 4, 5' sections of
> Etrack
> > to my auto trailer. Each required 60 holes to be drilled in the 1/4"
> steel
> > diamond plate runners on my trailer. One bit made it through 180 holes
> > before my grip on the drill tired and I moved off center while breaking
> > through. The bit didn't break, it bent. On every hole I was using max
> > speed and max feed so all of the chips were blue. The bit was so hot
> after
> > just a couple holes you could smell the paint burn everytime I indexed
> to a
> > new hole. These things are AWSOME and if you're looking for the last set
> > of bits you'll ever buy, I recommend you buy a set.
> > Oh, I forgot to mention that all the bits have three ground flats on
> them
> > so there is never any chuck slippage and they always go back in the hole
> in
> > the index they came out of. Incredible drill bits!
> >
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Steve Ferguson
Sierra Vista, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Good Tools [message #159475 is a reply to message #159392] |
Mon, 06 February 2012 07:18 |
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I useÂ
www.tapmagic.com
Its magic!
Sent from my Dumbphone
-------- Original message --------
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Good Tools
From: Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
CC:
Good to see this thread morph back to what it started out to be. The same
GMCer that sold me the bits, also sold me what he thought was the best
cutting oil he'd ever used or sold. I bought a bottle and it is something
else. You know when the bits are getting dull when they start to squeal
and no longer cut. One drop of this stuff and it begins cutting like new.
Incredible for tapping also. If I remember, I'll look up the brand later
when I head for the shop.
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 3:56 AM, Daniel Jarvis <TheJarvis@carolina.rr.com>wrote:
> I had a large project that required lots of 5/16 holes done on the drill
> press. I was having a hard time getting through the steel and the bits
> were hot, chips blue - screeching noise. Then a machinist friend told me
> to slow the speed down and that I shouldn't be producing chips but long
> curly-cues. Moved the belts on the drill's pulleys, lo and behold, the
> drills started going through the steel like buttah... FWIW.
>
> Dan in NC
> Caregiver to a 1976 Eleganza II
> "Tzetze Fly"
>
> On 2/5/2012 10:50 AM, Steven Ferguson wrote:
> > Netters,
> >Â Â A while back I bought a set of drill bits from fellow GMCer Ken Booth
> (Top
> > Gun Tool in Havasu City, AZ). I took his word for it that they're the
> best
> > drills he's ever used. Background: I drill a lot of holes. Repairing
> > those old crusty, rusty lower control arms requires using up a lot of
> > standard 5/16 and 3/8 bits and I've been through a ton of them. Enter
> > Norseman Magnum drill bits. I was so impressed with these that I ordered
> > another full set from Ken before he shut down his business completely.
> >  Yesterday was the toughest test yet. I mounted 4, 5' sections of
> Etrack
> > to my auto trailer. Each required 60 holes to be drilled in the 1/4"
> steel
> > diamond plate runners on my trailer. One bit made it through 180 holes
> > before my grip on the drill tired and I moved off center while breaking
> > through. The bit didn't break, it bent. On every hole I was using max
> > speed and max feed so all of the chips were blue. The bit was so hot
> after
> > just a couple holes you could smell the paint burn everytime I indexed
> to a
> > new hole. These things are AWSOME and if you're looking for the last set
> > of bits you'll ever buy, I recommend you buy a set.
> >Â Â Oh, I forgot to mention that all the bits have three ground flats on
> them
> > so there is never any chuck slippage and they always go back in the hole
> in
> > the index they came out of. Incredible drill bits!
> >
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health insurance......but not everyone has to prove they're a citizen.
Steve Ferguson
Sierra Vista, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Good Tools [message #159490 is a reply to message #159476] |
Mon, 06 February 2012 10:28 |
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Billy Massey wrote on Mon, 06 February 2012 05:28]Awwww
Forgive me for not trimming the previous reply.
Gosh Billy, obviously, few on here have ever heard of "trimming the post" before
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Carson City Nevada 89703
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