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EZ 101-Turbo Kool [message #159211] Fri, 03 February 2012 22:36 Go to next message
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Pretty excited. Got the EZ 101, should have it installed soon. Took out the on/off switch however. I installed a 3 pin jack in its place. Then wired up a remote switch with LED to mount in the cabin. Thank you to many for your suggestions for the water heater. I'm going to hook it up to my city water supply on the drivers side near the frig.
I'm also going to use the shower attachment it came with and make a outdoor shower as well. I'm making a bracket to install the unit behind the frig. On that water supply line I'm going to tap it also for the water for my TurboKool.

TurboKool... Today I pitched the old coleman AC off the roof. Man that thing weighted a ton. I thought of a idea. I'm going to use the AC shroud/cover to cover over my TurboKool. Then my TurboKool will never get direct sunlight. I'm going to insulate between the old AC shroud, and the TurboKool. I'm hoping not having the TurboKool in direct sun will also keep its temps down.


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Re: [GMCnet] EZ 101-Turbo Kool [message #159256 is a reply to message #159211] Sat, 04 February 2012 09:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Michael,
In the southwest with the low humidity dry climate in southern AZ the TurboKool unit should provide you with adequate cooling. The unit requires the free movement of air and I would avoid covering the unit with the old cover to avoid any chance of restricted air flow. The insulation and cover will not appreciable enhance the operation of the unit and make it difficult to service the unit. You will be cleaning the unit to remove the mud from the dust that is in the air and the high alkali in the water that you will need to wash out of the media to maintain peak operation. With all the air flow in, 750 CFM you will also need an exit for the air volume to leave the coach to get the maximum efficiency out of the unit. You are aware that you cannot use the unit while in motion as you can cause the water to spill from the pan and drip into the coach?

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On Feb 3, 2012, at 9:36 PM, Michael wrote:

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> Pretty excited. Got the EZ 101, should have it installed soon. Took out the on/off switch however. I installed a 3 pin jack in its place. Then wired up a remote switch with LED to mount in the cabin. Thank you to many for your suggestions for the water heater. I'm going to hook it up to my city water supply on the drivers side near the frig.
> I'm also going to use the shower attachment it came with and make a outdoor shower as well. I'm making a bracket to install the unit behind the frig. On that water supply line I'm going to tap it also for the water for my TurboKool.
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> TurboKool... Today I pitched the old coleman AC off the roof. Man that thing weighted a ton. I thought of a idea. I'm going to use the AC shroud/cover to cover over my TurboKool. Then my TurboKool will never get direct sunlight. I'm going to insulate between the old AC shroud, and the TurboKool. I'm hoping not having the TurboKool in direct sun will also keep its temps down.
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Re: EZ 101-Turbo Kool [message #159257 is a reply to message #159211] Sat, 04 February 2012 09:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The TurboKool was designed to be used in motion. And the AC cover has the exact same cut outs as the TurboKool. Just bigger, and there is a gap between the two. It will allow me to insulate it. As far as service the cover will only take 4 screws so it will make service a snap. Plus not having plastic in direct sun light will help with uv a lot. Also the water in the pan will remain a tad bit cooler.

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Re: [GMCnet] EZ 101-Turbo Kool [message #159259 is a reply to message #159257] Sat, 04 February 2012 09:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Suggest that you read page 6 of the installation manual.

"The waterpan is not waterproof, but is splash resistant. Bachman Enterprises, Inc. does not recommend driving with your TurboKOOL on. However, if you take it upon yourself to do so, do not drive over extremely bumpy roads (such as off-road) as this may cause spillage."

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On Feb 4, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Michael wrote:

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> The TurboKool was designed to be used in motion. And the AC cover has the exact same cut outs as the TurboKool. Just bigger, and there is a gap between the two. It will allow me to insulate it. As far as service the cover will only take 4 screws so it will make service a snap.
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Re: EZ 101-Turbo Kool [message #159277 is a reply to message #159211] Sat, 04 February 2012 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I love how people word things... Yes I have read that suggested reading. However our interstates can be described as a lot of things but we are not ever driving on dirt roads. If we did I'm not concerned about a splash that happens once every blue moon. Many comment on swamp coolers as well but many have never used one. One of the easiest things to do to prevent splash is also to restrict flow a bit. Over filling is one reason for swamp coolers leaking. We are adding a valve (my friend runs a plumbing company) to control flow. We are not using any of the hardware that comes with the unit either. I'm modifying the pan as well. My Datejust Rolex is not water proof but its water resistant and will wear it even while installing it Smile

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Re: [GMCnet] EZ 101-Turbo Kool [message #159281 is a reply to message #159277] Sat, 04 February 2012 13:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Michael,
You obviously have never been on I55 in MS. Don't go there with the
cooler or coffee cup in hand.
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Re: EZ 101-Turbo Kool [message #159282 is a reply to message #159211] Sat, 04 February 2012 13:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I wouldn't use a cooler in MS Smile

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Re: [GMCnet] EZ 101-Turbo Kool [message #159299 is a reply to message #159282] Sat, 04 February 2012 16:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Michael,

You mean you COULDN'T use the cooler in MS as the humididdity would be more than 75%. ;-)

By the way I had an email exchange with Ben Bachman about the TurboKOOL, I asked him if he could provide a chart that showed what
the RH would be inside the motorhome.

He suggested I check the chart on page 10 of the installation manual, I did so and noted that it was a chart that showed outside air
temp (OAT) and relative humidity (RH) and the temperature the TurboKOOL would produce. Naturally it works fine in hot dry places.

I thanked him for the information and asked if next to the output temp figures of the TurboKOOL he could include the RH. He noted
that he could not and that to keep the humididdity from building up in a motorhome you had to open a window.

Once again I am NOT CRITIZING OR QUESTIONING you for selecting this unit in any way shape or form, in fact I AM interested in using
it as a second cooling unit on my GMC here in Australia; I ga-ron-tee the Outback is as dry (if not drier) than AZ! However, I don't
want to spend the money to get one here only to find out our clothes go moldy.

BTW I reckon Ben is really interested in selling a unit to Australia as it probably will open up a new market for him.

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Rob M.

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I wouldn't use a cooler in MS :)
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Re: EZ 101-Turbo Kool [message #159339 is a reply to message #159211] Sat, 04 February 2012 20:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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All swamp coolers have to have a window open to operate mobile or home. I have used many over the years. Mobile not however. Even at our shop I have used large swamp cooling around sensitive electronics equipment and never had a issue. However had to open a window. People that say this is wrong may have used them in places I haven't. BUT I HAVE NEVER EVER had a issue with mold, mildew, smell or rust. If homes on the east coast can survive 90% RH and 90 degree temps in Miami, a swamp cooler in a dry climate is a fraction of RH.
I don't take it the wrong way from you. Honestly if 1000 people said my TurboKool idea was poor I wouldn't care. Its 12v. 4.4 amps high, 2.0 low. I use solar. I know without question that where we camp it will be all I need. My only question for myself is if I need two of them or one and one AC. If the idea totally turns out horrible it cost me $400 and time. I pop in a new 15,000BTU AC and call it a day. All the insulation I'm adding would help with any unit I opt to use a cooler for.
This week I'll have my TurboKool up and running. I just got back from the shop. My plumber friend is running the supply lines for the TurboKool and EZ 101 heater as I type. Maybe I'm a idiot, but this idiot will be using testing his TurboKool. The funny thing about all this is only on the GMC forum have I had a once of negative thought about it. Most everyone that has seen it, and most every friend I personally know think its going to work well. If it doesn't work PERFECT then its $400. However I'm guessing to have about a 5% chance while camping it will not be anything less then perfect. I'd rather a swamp cooler then ever hearing a Onan. In the next few weeks the onan is most likely going bye-bye.


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Re: EZ 101-Turbo Kool [message #159382 is a reply to message #159339] Sun, 05 February 2012 07:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mr.RadioActive wrote on Sat, 04 February 2012 21:23

<snip>In the next few weeks the onan is most likely going bye-bye.

Micheal,
If you do decide to remove the Onan, Do two things:
A - Read the manual X7425 about removing the Onan BF from a 23. It is different than the NF in a 26.
B - Prepare the Onan for long term storage. This needs to happen even in the desert. Fog the engine (oiling the bores is critical) and get the all the fuel out of the system.

Put it someplace safe so it is available to the SO or for your own use in the event of a power failure, or the case that you plan a trip to sticky places and want to re-install a rooftop air.

My Onan has been way too goood to us for me to want it out of there.

Matt


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Re: EZ 101-Turbo Kool [message #159399 is a reply to message #159211] Sun, 05 February 2012 10:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We have a odd three car garage where two cars park one in front of the other. I turned that part of the garage into a storage area with a wall, power, ac and such. I may put it in there and keep it on line in case of power failure. I can exhaust it outside easily there as well, and keep fuel outside for it. We don't get to many power outages but it will be nice as a back up. Otherwise I'll have to take precaution.

I may sell it. Its got about 78 hrs on it, and recently all the maintenance was done to it. If I could get a fair price for it, I'll prob sell it and buy a small 1000-2000 watt portable Honda or something.


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Re: EZ 101-Turbo Kool [message #159415 is a reply to message #159211] Sun, 05 February 2012 14:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: EZ 101-Turbo Kool [message #159453 is a reply to message #159211] Sun, 05 February 2012 21:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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LOL. Man thats one heck of a grade going up there. After all my mods I'm looking forward to see how she does going up it.
Today I painted about 1/3 of my roof. I have to do the second coat. I would of got more done, but we ran out of time. I was just thrilled to have my wife helping me out. Its rare she and I work on the GMC together. So I didn't want to make it a all day project. That BlackJack roof paint goes on EZ. My water supply line is done for the TurboKool and the EZ 101. Next I'll finish painting so my friend can attach the roof top water valve to the TurboKool. Then we have to run a supply line from the water heater to the hot water side of the plumbing. Last there was a splice the PO did in the copper plumbing that needs to be fixed. They used a rubber hose and it leaks.
Then I'll be running all the 12v wires from the roof for the solar before putting back the ceiling. What a job.
I bought $2.50 push on/off lights at Lowes. Then I bought $5 decorative plates that are used for can lighting decoration. I drilled a hole in the top of the light. Put in my LED bulb, used epoxy to keep it in place. Since it was battery operated I disconnected it and made it 12v. Glued it all together with epoxy. They look really nice like expensive lamps but cost me $7.50 each ( I already had the LED bulbs)


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Re: EZ 101-Turbo Kool [message #159456 is a reply to message #159453] Sun, 05 February 2012 21:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mr.RadioActive wrote on Sun, 05 February 2012 21:28

LOL. Man thats one heck of a grade going up there. After all my mods I'm looking forward to see how she does going up it.
Today I painted about 1/3 of my roof. I have to do the second coat. I would of got more done, but we ran out of time. I was just thrilled to have my wife helping me out. Its rare she and I work on the GMC together. So I didn't want to make it a all day project. That BlackJack roof paint goes on EZ. My water supply line is done for the TurboKool and the EZ 101. Next I'll finish painting so my friend can attach the roof top water valve to the TurboKool. Then we have to run a supply line from the water heater to the hot water side of the plumbing. Last there was a splice the PO did in the copper plumbing that needs to be fixed. They used a rubber hose and it leaks.
Then I'll be running all the 12v wires from the roof for the solar before putting back the ceiling. What a job.
I bought $2.50 push on/off lights at Lowes. Then I bought $5 decorative plates that are used for can lighting decoration. I drilled a hole in the top of the light. Put in my LED bulb, used epoxy to keep it in place. Since it was battery operated I disconnected it and made it 12v. Glued it all together with epoxy. They look really nice like expensive lamps but cost me $7.50 each ( I already had the LED bulbs)
Are you going to post some pictures?
Re: EZ 101-Turbo Kool [message #159457 is a reply to message #159211] Sun, 05 February 2012 21:39 Go to previous message
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I may. I have been taking some. Mostly just picture messaging my wife the progress when I'm doing things. I can post some. Its nice someones actually interested! lol

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