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ljdavick
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Ive enjoyed this list for quite a long time, but sometimes someone puts their foot in their mouth. Oops. It happens.
I've read posts that most certainly were written after Happy Hour, or before retiring from a too long day. However the VAST MAJORITY of posts are helpful and respectful. Many are truly laugh out loud funny. Some make you yawn. Some make you scratch your head. One of my favorite suppliers even posts messages that say nothing at all.
Truth be told, some have made me cry.
Many have come here to learn, soon realize that this is a friendly place, and then post questions or ideas that are unconventional. That's okay by me. The unconventional brought us the reaction arm rear brakes, wireless air, quadra bags, and even dash lights that work!
Still, I hear some folks suggesting things that just don't make sense to me. That's okay too. My rig gets what I choose to give her. The nonsensical dialog will either turn into something or go away.
I'm glad for the conversation. It's elevated me from mediocrity to high adequacy! And it lets me blow off some hot air from time to time.
Thank you all for participating, and a special thanks you our host!
Larry Davick
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oops - sour grapes. [message #157552 is a reply to message #157550] |
Sun, 22 January 2012 01:57  |
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Larry,
I can agree with you completely. I have been on this forum for over 2 years and have read all kinds of stuff. Most of which I take for the info that was given and apply what I need for my coach. I have added lots of things to my coach only after checking the postings on the forum and evaluating their worth and effectiveness. I have the one-ton front end, the Rockwell intake and the aluminum radiator among other things.
I also have been to several rallies and enjoyed the people that attended without having to go to "church" or being "badgered" by the other attendees. The rally is a place to put a face to an email or posting and if one desires you can engage the other person in a deeper discussion of the subject they wrote about. We have had cocktail hour and discussions only to be interrupted by dinner. I never had anyone "downgrade" my coach or anything that was done to it. We always learn from these meetings.
My take on this "sour grapes" is that one looses more by NOT participating than by being there and being social.
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Nick R. NorCal
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Rear Bath and
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oops - sour grapes. [message #157578 is a reply to message #157550] |
Sun, 22 January 2012 10:08 |
jhbridges
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I find the forum priceless and relaxing, even the rather heated exchanges. I bought the coach to get to dog shows. It works quite well for that. Now I'm contemplating and upgrading what was gonna be a source of parts so the Decision Maker can come along, and I can pick some shows for location instead of for judges and competition. So far, I've lucked out on doing a lot of stuff wrong out of ignorance, and managed with the help, intended or spurious, of the gurus here to correct the more egregious screwups. I bought it cheap, the PO had taken a sensible route to upgrades - probably because Sirum directed them - and it works well. Some of the stuff I have input on and input, some I don't.
I went to one rally, and met some fine folks - had a good weekend. I'll probably do one now and agaibn... not so much for the Motorhome Experience, but because they're a nice group of folks and it was fun to talk GMCs instead of dogs for a weekend. Some of the GMCers ought to make a dog show for the same reason - change of scenery and change of focus.
your mileage may vary
--johnny
';76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
2 Champion and one wannabe BWDs
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From: Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net>
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Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 2:08 AM
Subject: [GMCnet] Oops - sour grapes.
Ive enjoyed this list for quite a long time, but sometimes someone puts their foot in their mouth. Oops. It happens.
I've read posts that most certainly were written after Happy Hour, or before retiring from a too long day. However the VAST MAJORITY of posts are helpful and respectful. Many are truly laugh out loud funny. Some make you yawn. Some make you scratch your head. One of my favorite suppliers even posts messages that say nothing at all.
Truth be told, some have made me cry.
Many have come here to learn, soon realize that this is a friendly place, and then post questions or ideas that are unconventional. That's okay by me. The unconventional brought us the reaction arm rear brakes, wireless air, quadra bags, and even dash lights that work!
Still, I hear some folks suggesting things that just don't make sense to me. That's okay too. My rig gets what I choose to give her. The nonsensical dialog will either turn into something or go away.
I'm glad for the conversation. It's elevated me from mediocrity to high adequacy! And it lets me blow off some hot air from time to time.
Thank you all for participating, and a special thanks you our host!
Larry Davick
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oops - sour grapes. [message #157581 is a reply to message #157550] |
Sun, 22 January 2012 10:17 |
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Why is it sour grapes realizing the only common thread we have is a GMC motorhome and that you rather not go to a rally on a weekend? I do about 10-30 hrs a month, every mth, volunteering usually on my weekends (sometimes midweek), and buying out the time to go to a rally is far from sour grapes.
***"Gettin There"-1973 23' Sequoia-
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oops - sour grapes. [message #157589 is a reply to message #157578] |
Sun, 22 January 2012 10:49 |
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mike miller
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| Johnny Bridges wrote on Sun, 22 January 2012 08:08 |
... I bought the coach to get to dog shows. It works quite well for that. ...
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I went to one rally, and met some fine folks - had a good weekend. I'll probably do one now and agaibn... not so much for the Motorhome Experience, but because they're a nice group of folks and it was fun to talk GMCs instead of dogs for a weekend. Some of the GMCers ought to make a dog show for the same reason - change of scenery and change of focus. ...
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Interesting that you picked the GMC due to your dogs (big dogs), and I picked my dogs due to my GMC... (small dogs) and we both ended up with 23 foot coaches! (Small GMC.)
I have only gone to some informal rallies (Soor x3, TI x2) and one "real" organized rally. (GMCWS) I like being able to see and talk about other coaches, and am getting a feel for the "social side" of GMCing. I could learn to like it and am making changes at work so I can make local rallies even when not on vacation.
Stopping by a dog show would be interesting but to make a weekend out of it I would have to know SOMEONE. (Our dogs are definitely NOT show dogs.) Wife always likes to look at dogs of all sizes, but doesn't want anything to do with dogs bigger than her. (She is rather small so that includes a lot of dogs!)
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oops - sour grapes. [message #157593 is a reply to message #157550] |
Sun, 22 January 2012 11:16 |
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Matt Colie
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I have to allow that I really do not understand that there is an issue here at all. Yes, we have some differences of opinion here, but it is very rare that it is personal at all. Even if it is, the group does not divide over the subject.
There is a lot that goes by. I have been to a few rallys, not as many as I might like, and I am often impressed that mine is possibly the shabbiest coach there, and, unless we hit the lottery, it is likely to stay that way. I keep it reliable and as leak-free as possible. It does what we want. I wish I could say the same for the dog.
Yes, we have a small coach and a big dog and we can enjoy both. As for going to a dog show, that would be as entertaining as an RV show. I have mine (both) and I like what I have (this is good). If either were lost, I would be sad.
More than that, the community here is awesome (in the true sense) and, indeed, the reason we have more than a few ex-TZEs that hang on. I can understand.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oops - sour grapes. [message #157595 is a reply to message #157550] |
Sun, 22 January 2012 11:20 |
RadioActiveGMC
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Oh no- Not dogs, we have three and they all have to go with us in the GMC (plus the two kids!)
***"Gettin There"-1973 23' Sequoia-
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oops - sour grapes. [message #157613 is a reply to message #157593] |
Sun, 22 January 2012 12:24 |
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Hey, Matt!
If you think you have the shabbiest coach around,
wait until you see my "Money Pit" at Shawnee!
That's assuming I can get it to run the 25 or so
miles from my house to the rally site!
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
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~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: matt7323tze@gmail.com
> Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 11:16:57 -0600
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Oops - sour grapes.
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> I have to allow that I really do not understand that there is an issue here at all. Yes, we have some differences of opinion here, but it is very rare that it is personal at all. Even if it is, the group does not divide over the subject.
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> There is a lot that goes by. I have been to a few rallys, not as many as I might like, and I am often impressed that mine is possibly the shabbiest coach there, and, unless we hit the lottery, it is likely to stay that way. I keep it reliable and as leak-free as possible. It does what we want. I wish I could say the same for the dog.
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> Yes, we have a small coach and a big dog and we can enjoy both. As for going to a dog show, that would be as entertaining as an RV show. I have mine (both) and I like what I have (this is good). If either were lost, I would be sad.
>
> More than that, the community here is awesome (in the true sense) and, indeed, the reason we have more than a few ex-TZEs that hang on. I can understand.
>
> Matt
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> Matt & Mary Colie
> '73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air) Just about as stock as you will find
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oops - sour grapes. [message #157615 is a reply to message #157550] |
Sun, 22 January 2012 12:44 |
Ray Erspamer
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So True Larry
I've gotten incredible help on here, MANY good compliments, and I've even gotten
blasted a couple of times. Bottom line is that I end up taking all ideas and
recommendations into consideration, use some and throw some out and then do it
my way. Some people are ultra conservative and cautious, some are just the
opposite, a person has to do what he is comfortable with. 99% of things here
are good ! I think it's an incredible group and am thankful for all of the
friends I've made.
Ray
Ray & Lisa Erspamer
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Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
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From: Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net>
To: GMC Motorhome List <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Sun, January 22, 2012 1:08:01 AM
Subject: [GMCnet] Oops - sour grapes.
Ive enjoyed this list for quite a long time, but sometimes someone puts their
foot in their mouth. Oops. It happens.
I've read posts that most certainly were written after Happy Hour, or before
retiring from a too long day. However the VAST MAJORITY of posts are helpful and
respectful. Many are truly laugh out loud funny. Some make you yawn. Some make
you scratch your head. One of my favorite suppliers even posts messages that say
nothing at all.
Truth be told, some have made me cry.
Many have come here to learn, soon realize that this is a friendly place, and
then post questions or ideas that are unconventional. That's okay by me. The
unconventional brought us the reaction arm rear brakes, wireless air, quadra
bags, and even dash lights that work!
Still, I hear some folks suggesting things that just don't make sense to me.
That's okay too. My rig gets what I choose to give her. The nonsensical dialog
will either turn into something or go away.
I'm glad for the conversation. It's elevated me from mediocrity to high
adequacy! And it lets me blow off some hot air from time to time.
Thank you all for participating, and a special thanks you our host!
Larry Davick
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oops - sour grapes. [message #157620 is a reply to message #157578] |
Sun, 22 January 2012 13:08 |
Steven Ferguson
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Heated? You have been sheltered well Johnny. I recall times when this
digest left your keyboard smoldering.
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
> I find the forum priceless and relaxing, even the rather heated
> exchanges. I bought the coach to get to dog shows. It works quite well
> for that. Now I'm contemplating and upgrading what was gonna be a source
> of parts so the Decision Maker can come along, and I can pick some shows
> for location instead of for judges and competition. So far, I've lucked
> out on doing a lot of stuff wrong out of ignorance, and managed with the
> help, intended or spurious, of the gurus here to correct the more egregious
> screwups. I bought it cheap, the PO had taken a sensible route to
> upgrades - probably because Sirum directed them - and it works well. Some
> of the stuff I have input on and input, some I don't.
>
> I went to one rally, and met some fine folks - had a good weekend. I'll
> probably do one now and agaibn... not so much for the Motorhome Experience,
> but because they're a nice group of folks and it was fun to talk GMCs
> instead of dogs for a weekend. Some of the GMCers ought to make a dog show
> for the same reason - change of scenery and change of focus.
>
> your mileage may vary
>
> --johnny
>
> ';76 23' transmode norris
> '76 palm beach
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> 2 Champion and one wannabe BWDs
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> From: Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net>
> To: GMC Motorhome List <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 2:08 AM
> Subject: [GMCnet] Oops - sour grapes.
>
> Ive enjoyed this list for quite a long time, but sometimes someone puts
> their foot in their mouth. Oops. It happens.
>
> I've read posts that most certainly were written after Happy Hour, or
> before retiring from a too long day. However the VAST MAJORITY of posts are
> helpful and respectful. Many are truly laugh out loud funny. Some make you
> yawn. Some make you scratch your head. One of my favorite suppliers even
> posts messages that say nothing at all.
>
> Truth be told, some have made me cry.
>
> Many have come here to learn, soon realize that this is a friendly place,
> and then post questions or ideas that are unconventional. That's okay by
> me. The unconventional brought us the reaction arm rear brakes, wireless
> air, quadra bags, and even dash lights that work!
>
> Still, I hear some folks suggesting things that just don't make sense to
> me. That's okay too. My rig gets what I choose to give her. The nonsensical
> dialog will either turn into something or go away.
>
> I'm glad for the conversation. It's elevated me from mediocrity to high
> adequacy! And it lets me blow off some hot air from time to time.
>
> Thank you all for participating, and a special thanks you our host!
>
> Larry Davick
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oops - sour grapes. [message #157622 is a reply to message #157613] |
Sun, 22 January 2012 13:32 |
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If we ever have a contest for the shabbiest coach, I know I would make the pedestal with my newly acquired Palm Beach. It was definitely headed for the scrap heap before I intervened.
On Jan 22, 2012, at 10:24 AM, D C *Mac* Macdonald wrote:
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> Hey, Matt!
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> If you think you have the shabbiest coach around,
> wait until you see my "Money Pit" at Shawnee!
>
> That's assuming I can get it to run the 25 or so
> miles from my house to the rally site!
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
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>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> From: matt7323tze@gmail.com
>> Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 11:16:57 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Oops - sour grapes.
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>> I have to allow that I really do not understand that there is an issue here at all. Yes, we have some differences of opinion here, but it is very rare that it is personal at all. Even if it is, the group does not divide over the subject.
>>
>> There is a lot that goes by. I have been to a few rallys, not as many as I might like, and I am often impressed that mine is possibly the shabbiest coach there, and, unless we hit the lottery, it is likely to stay that way. I keep it reliable and as leak-free as possible. It does what we want. I wish I could say the same for the dog.
>>
>> Yes, we have a small coach and a big dog and we can enjoy both. As for going to a dog show, that would be as entertaining as an RV show. I have mine (both) and I like what I have (this is good). If either were lost, I would be sad.
>>
>> More than that, the community here is awesome (in the true sense) and, indeed, the reason we have more than a few ex-TZEs that hang on. I can understand.
>>
>> Matt
>> --
>> Matt & Mary Colie
>> '73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air) Just about as stock as you will find
>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oops - sour grapes. [message #157633 is a reply to message #157589] |
Sun, 22 January 2012 15:31 |
jhbridges
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Interesting that you picked the GMC due to your dogs (big dogs), and I picked my dogs due to my GMC... (small dogs) and we both ended up with 23 foot coaches! (Small GMC.)
I have only gone to some informal rallies (Soor x3, TI x2) and one "real" organized rally. (GMCWS) I like being able to see and talk about other coaches, and am getting a feel for the "social side" of GMCing. I could learn to like it and am making changes at work so I can make local rallies even when not on vacation.
Stopping by a dog show would be interesting but to make a weekend out of it I would have to know SOMEONE. (Our dogs are definitely NOT show dogs.) Wife always likes to look at dogs of all sizes, but doesn't want anything to do with dogs bigger than her. (She is rather small so that includes a lot of dogs!)
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Versatile coaches they are!
We (BWD folks) claim anything you have to bend over to pet is more joke than dog... but admit there are way more small dogs in the world than big ones. As a point of interest, AKC now allows mixed breed dogs in Performance events in many cases (Obedience, Rally, Agility, etc.) and they usully outperform the purebreds. Probably because not that many purebred folks do performance events.
There's an easy way to figure out a dog show - and it does want a bit of explanation when everyone there is talking in buzzwords. Go to the place marked 'Superintendant's Table' which will have a very visible sign. Ask whichever worthy pays attention to you first where the AKC Representative is. They will find that person for you, identifiable by a little nametag which will have a name, sometimes even theirs, and "AKC FIELD REPRESENTATIVE" on it. Ask that person to point you towards someone who can 'splain what's going on to you. They'll find you a sympathetic person. In 30 minutes you'll know what's happening, and be whispering to the person next to you that the Judge is either blind or senile. Remember, showing dogs is the only sport in the world where I, the rank amatuer, can and do go head to head with the 40 year highly paid pro. And win at least often enough to keep doing it. Give one a try, they're fun.
I went to a Dixielander's rally cos it was close and I had the weekend. Met a great batch of nice people and ate some excellent food. And got a lot of good infop about my GMC. Sooner or later one will come up adjacent to a show or concurrent with and I'll continue with it.
And they aren't TOO big after all - have a look:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=42449&title=ch-duke-and-paula&cat=5815
Compare her arm to his front leg/paw for sizes. When she says 'Frog!' thwey all hop.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode Norris
'76 Palm Beach
'99 - 05 - 09 BWDs
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oops - sour grapes. [message #157639 is a reply to message #157620] |
Sun, 22 January 2012 15:59 |
jhbridges
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I used to Topic Cop back in the 'store and forward' BBS days when staying focused mattered because of the long distance charges to move mail.
I did 7 years on the Board of Directors of a national AKC Breed club.
I'm currently first VP of an all breed club, and on the cluster Show Committee for four clubs.
Much to my pleasure, GMCers are pikers in the flame department by comparison. Let's not try to run up the AQ here :):)
--johnny
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From: Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Oops - sour grapes.
Heated? You have been sheltered well Johnny. I recall times when this
digest left your keyboard smoldering.
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
> I find the forum priceless and relaxing, even the rather heated
> exchanges. I bought the coach to get to dog shows. It works quite well
> for that. Now I'm contemplating and upgrading what was gonna be a source
> of parts so the Decision Maker can come along, and I can pick some shows
> for location instead of for judges and competition. So far, I've lucked
> out on doing a lot of stuff wrong out of ignorance, and managed with the
> help, intended or spurious, of the gurus here to correct the more egregious
> screwups. I bought it cheap, the PO had taken a sensible route to
> upgrades - probably because Sirum directed them - and it works well. Some
> of the stuff I have input on and input, some I don't.
>
> I went to one rally, and met some fine folks - had a good weekend. I'll
> probably do one now and agaibn... not so much for the Motorhome Experience,
> but because they're a nice group of folks and it was fun to talk GMCs
> instead of dogs for a weekend. Some of the GMCers ought to make a dog show
> for the same reason - change of scenery and change of focus.
>
> your mileage may vary
>
> --johnny
>
> ';76 23' transmode norris
> '76 palm beach
>
> 2 Champion and one wannabe BWDs
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net>
> To: GMC Motorhome List <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 2:08 AM
> Subject: [GMCnet] Oops - sour grapes.
>
> Ive enjoyed this list for quite a long time, but sometimes someone puts
> their foot in their mouth. Oops. It happens.
>
> I've read posts that most certainly were written after Happy Hour, or
> before retiring from a too long day. However the VAST MAJORITY of posts are
> helpful and respectful. Many are truly laugh out loud funny. Some make you
> yawn. Some make you scratch your head. One of my favorite suppliers even
> posts messages that say nothing at all.
>
> Truth be told, some have made me cry.
>
> Many have come here to learn, soon realize that this is a friendly place,
> and then post questions or ideas that are unconventional. That's okay by
> me. The unconventional brought us the reaction arm rear brakes, wireless
> air, quadra bags, and even dash lights that work!
>
> Still, I hear some folks suggesting things that just don't make sense to
> me. That's okay too. My rig gets what I choose to give her. The nonsensical
> dialog will either turn into something or go away.
>
> I'm glad for the conversation. It's elevated me from mediocrity to high
> adequacy! And it lets me blow off some hot air from time to time.
>
> Thank you all for participating, and a special thanks you our host!
>
> Larry Davick
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Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oops - sour grapes. [message #157673 is a reply to message #157593] |
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Bob de Kruyff
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""There is a lot that goes by. I have been to a few rallys, not as many as I might like, and I am often impressed that mine is possibly the shabbiest coach there, and, unless we hit the lottery, it is likely to stay that way. I keep it reliable and as leak-free as possible. It does what we want. I wish I could say the same for the dog.
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I've told this story a few different times for different reasons. About 12 to 15 years ago I went to the only international rally I ever attended. I attended the tech sessions only to see the presenters attacked by the audience who already knew better. The meals were fine but criticized by the regulars, and frankly, I hated the whole thing. BUT, there was one shining light that I will never forget. During the open house, I entered a really shabby coach and was greated by a nice lady in her upper 50's. The refrigerator was some kind of apartment model and strapped to the sidewall with a bungee cord. She talked about her travels and the people she had met and wasn't even remotely embarassed about how things looked. I immediately got it and felt what a GMC truly can be all about. It wasn't about PD chargers. 1 ton front ends, quadra bags, and so on. She is one of the 8000 or so folks enjoying the GMC who didn't realize how deficient her coach was.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oops - sour grapes. [message #157704 is a reply to message #157673] |
Mon, 23 January 2012 00:42 |
pickle4k
Messages: 129
Registered: January 2011
Location: San Leandro
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Bob,
Your experiences what I have seen as well. I also just seek out those that are there for the FUN. Some folks need to make everything a downer unless it is what THEY want. It is impossible to make everyone happy.
My desire is to be entertained, amused, informed and educated by others, because I am not old enough to have "done it all or seen it all". I strive to have a positive experience for the rest of my days (GMC'ing), since some days while working were not so great (bosses and such).
I hope to be able to contribute to the GMC community what I can and learn from this forum as much as I can. If I get flamed, so what.
Regards,
Nick R.
Nick R. NorCal
76-23'Transmode-Norris
Rear Bath and
75-26' Avion
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oops - sour grapes. [message #157746 is a reply to message #157673] |
Mon, 23 January 2012 10:46 |
UziYaH
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Location: 10-O-C
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Thanks Bob, ...that was nice. I can't compete with the deep pockets of many of our coach owners, nor can I hold a candle the mechanical skills and education I've seen, ...but it doesn't seem to matter as commonality is found in owning a GMC motorhome. I like that. It allows me to be me.
Happy trails,
Howard N.
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From: Bob de Kruyff <NEXT2POOL@AOL.COM>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Oops - sour grapes.
""There is a lot that goes by. I have been to a few rallys, not as many as I might like, and I am often impressed that mine is possibly the shabbiest coach there, and, unless we hit the lottery, it is likely to stay that way. I keep it reliable and as leak-free as possible. It does what we want. I wish I could say the same for the dog.
""
I've told this story a few different times for different reasons. About 12 to 15 years ago I went to the only international rally I ever attended. I attended the tech sessions only to see the presenters attacked by the audience who already knew better. The meals were fine but criticized by the regulars, and frankly, I hated the whole thing. BUT, there was one shining light that I will never forget. During the open house, I entered a really shabby coach and was greated by a nice lady in her upper 50's. The refrigerator was some kind of apartment model and strapped to the sidewall with a bungee cord. She talked about her travels and the people she had met and wasn't even remotely embarassed about how things looked. I immediately got it and felt what a GMC truly can be all about. It wasn't about PD chargers. 1 ton front ends, quadra bags, and so on. She is one of the 8000 or so folks enjoying the GMC who didn't realize how deficient her coach was.
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Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oops - sour grapes. [message #158001 is a reply to message #157694] |
Wed, 25 January 2012 21:03 |
midlf
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| Robert Mueller wrote on Sun, 22 January 2012 22:20 |
Bob,
My experience is more current and those people are still attending conventions. Come to think of it I found them at Harley Owners
Group Rallies I've attended too!
I found the solution is rather simple, I avoid them and hang around the people that make the rally pleasant; who I've found to be
the people that help out to try and make the rally fun. The complainers do just that nothing more!
Regards,
Rob M.
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A long long time ago, 1981, our Corvette club hosted the national convention. It was very successful. At the conclusion I made the statement that "it appears that our convention has made everyone happy." Someone noted that there were a few complainers. The response was "Yes, but that means everyone was happy because there are some people who are not happy unless they are complaining, thus, everyone was happy."
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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