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[GMCnet] rear door options just what we did [message #156039] Mon, 09 January 2012 04:13 Go to next message
Curtisunlimited is currently offline  Curtisunlimited   United States
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Well, decided to enter the present and learn how to use the photo site so
we could post pictures of our solution to the rear door/ ramp/tailgate
problem when converting a GMC into a car hauler.
In our case we are making a toy trailer to haul two vintage race cars and
have living quarters up front. As poor working stiffs, progress is slow, but
eventually it will be finished! Anyway, at the following link, you can see
what we have been up to.

_http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=12783_
(http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=12783)



Bert and Fay Curtis
'76 Glenbrook and exRoyale now 5th wheel trailer
Kneeland, CA Yes, through the Redwoods, one can see the edge of the
Earth.
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Re: [GMCnet] rear door options just what we did [message #156040 is a reply to message #156039] Mon, 09 January 2012 06:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
djeffers is currently offline  djeffers   United States
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Impressive project!

Don & Susan Jeffers
78 Eleganza II
63 Lotus 14 CBU 1796
Re: [GMCnet] rear door options just what we did [message #156041 is a reply to message #156039] Mon, 09 January 2012 06:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Vintage racers?  Will we see you at the Mitty???
 
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'76 palm beach


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Subject: [GMCnet] rear door options just what we did

Well, decided to enter the present and learn how to use the photo site so 
we could post pictures of our solution to the rear door/ ramp/tailgate
problem  when converting a GMC into a car hauler.
In our case we are making a toy trailer to haul two vintage race cars and 
have living quarters up front. As poor working stiffs, progress is slow, but
eventually it will be finished! Anyway, at the following link, you can see
what  we have been up to.

_http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=12783_
(http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=12783)



Bert and Fay Curtis
'76 Glenbrook and exRoyale now 5th wheel trailer
Kneeland, CA    Yes, through the Redwoods, one can see  the edge of the
Earth.
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Re: [GMCnet] rear door options just what we did [message #156049 is a reply to message #156039] Mon, 09 January 2012 09:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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Everything Bert and Faye do is "impressive". Those are two very talented folks. Teri and I just love hanging out with them and can't wait to get back there. You will be really impressed when you see the truck with that cab on it. If you can "think it up", they can build it. I noticed when we traveled up 101 with them that they had much better brakes than I did. I had to be careful following them. Can't wait for them to see us stop now. Very Happy
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] rear door options just what we did [message #156053 is a reply to message #156049] Mon, 09 January 2012 10:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Berry is currently offline  Gary Berry   United States
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Beautiful, Beautiful, and more Beautiful, Can hardly wait to see it finished...

Gary and Diana Berry
73 CL Stretch in Wa.
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Re: [GMCnet] rear door options just what we did [message #156054 is a reply to message #156053] Mon, 09 January 2012 10:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
seven is currently offline  seven   Canada
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Wow this now has me in a whole new direction on my rear floor and frame support.
Thanks keep posting those pictures great project!


Jay Fox Calgary AB
73 Painted Desert (Turtle)
78 Transmode (Trailer Donor)
Re: [GMCnet] rear door options just what we did [message #156069 is a reply to message #156054] Mon, 09 January 2012 12:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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seven wrote on Mon, 09 January 2012 08:51

Wow this now has me in a whole new direction on my rear floor and frame support.
Thanks keep posting those pictures great project!



They do good work. I first heard of this project quite some time ago. Notice the NEW aluminum skin? Evidently getting the old skin off the ribs without damaging the ribs was VERY difficult. After hearing of the work required to take the old aluminum skin off and new skin on, I asked if it would have been easier to use a few ribs as a pattern and build the whole thing from scratch.

That got Bert to think for a few minutes.

Seems when following the above link a few pictures are missed. There are a few more found here:

<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member.php?uid=12783&protype=1>

The truck cab LOOKS a bit like the one used on the Decoliner. It might make a good cab for a flat bed car hauler based on GMC frame and running gear. As they have (had?) the remains of the Midnight Express, the car hauler might have enough weight capacity for a "normal" GMC! For those who do not know the Midnight Express, here is a picture before it burned to the frame:
<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=31716>


Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo' http://m000035.blogspot.com
Re: [GMCnet] rear door options just what we did [message #156092 is a reply to message #156069] Mon, 09 January 2012 15:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Byron Songer is currently offline  Byron Songer   United States
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Like the looks of that project. I think the single, instead of split,
hatch/ramp makes better sense, Jay. But, I'd think that would call for
some type of lifting mechanism instead of human effort.

I also like the old White COE. It was the most popular model with real
"forward control" back in the day. Ford, Chevy, GMC tended to do a taller
unit based on a typical truck chassis with engine in the standard location
unlike White that aimed this cab forward design at the medium haul market.
The engine is further back in the chassis so the driver could sit lower to
the street for easier entry/exit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1942_Chevrolet_COE_Truck.jpg

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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] rear door options just what we did

>
>
>seven wrote on Mon, 09 January 2012 08:51
>> Wow this now has me in a whole new direction on my rear floor and frame
>>support.
>> Thanks keep posting those pictures great project!
>
>
>They do good work. I first heard of this project quite some time ago.
>Notice the NEW aluminum skin? Evidently getting the old skin off the
>ribs without damaging the ribs was VERY difficult. After hearing of the
>work required to take the old aluminum skin off and new skin on, I asked
>if it would have been easier to use a few ribs as a pattern and build the
>whole thing from scratch.
>
>That got Bert to think for a few minutes.
>
>Seems when following the above link a few pictures are missed. There are
>a few more found here:
>
><http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member.php?uid=12783&protype=1>
>
>The truck cab LOOKS a bit like the one used on the Decoliner. It might
>make a good cab for a flat bed car hauler based on GMC frame and running
>gear. As they have (had?) the remains of the Midnight Express, the car
>hauler might have enough weight capacity for a "normal" GMC! For those
>who do not know the Midnight Express, here is a picture before it burned
>to the frame:
><http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=31716>
>--
>Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
>(#1)'73 26' exPainted D. -- (#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77
>23' Birchaven Side Bath
>http://m000035.blogspot.com
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Re: [GMCnet] rear door options just what we did [message #156093 is a reply to message #156039] Mon, 09 January 2012 15:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Byron Songer is currently offline  Byron Songer   United States
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Welcome to the 21st century.

Good work. I'm as interested in that White as the GMC-based trailer.
They'll make a dynamite duo.


Byron Songer
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Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 05:13:41 -0500 (EST)
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Subject: [GMCnet] rear door options just what we did

>Well, decided to enter the present and learn how to use the photo site so
>
>we could post pictures of our solution to the rear door/ ramp/tailgate
>problem when converting a GMC into a car hauler.
>In our case we are making a toy trailer to haul two vintage race cars and
>
>have living quarters up front. As poor working stiffs, progress is slow,
>but
> eventually it will be finished! Anyway, at the following link, you can
>see
>what we have been up to.
>
>_http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=12783_
>(http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=12783)
>
>
>
>Bert and Fay Curtis
>'76 Glenbrook and exRoyale now 5th wheel trailer
>Kneeland, CA Yes, through the Redwoods, one can see the edge of the
>Earth.
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Re: [GMCnet] rear door options just what we did [message #156154 is a reply to message #156092] Mon, 09 January 2012 20:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Byron Songer wrote on Mon, 09 January 2012 13:36

Like the looks of that project. I think the single, instead of split,
hatch/ramp makes better sense, Jay. But, I'd think that would call for
some type of lifting mechanism instead of human effort.
...


To me the type of ramp would depend on what you planned on hauling. It has been quite a few years from when I last talked with Bert about this project... but if I remember correctly, the Curtis trailer is to carry TWO Formula Vee race cars. <http://www.formulavee.us/what_is_fv.htm> These are very low to the ground, so there can not be any large angles at the top or bottom of the ramp. If you look at the pictures, you can see some of the lift that is to lift the first car up so the second car can be slipped under the first. <http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=42004>


Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo' http://m000035.blogspot.com
Re: [GMCnet] rear door options just what we did [message #156209 is a reply to message #156092] Tue, 10 January 2012 08:42 Go to previous message
seven is currently offline  seven   Canada
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[quote title=Byron Songer wrote on Mon, 09 January 2012 14:36]Like the looks of that project. I think the single, instead of split,
hatch/ramp makes better sense, Jay. But, I'd think that would call for
some type of lifting mechanism instead of human effort.

No I think the split rear idea is the way I still will go, I like the project to remain the way GM would have had it, and the way you illustrated it, But this will is a great project Im humbled to think I can put this type of work in mine.




Jay Fox Calgary AB
73 Painted Desert (Turtle)
78 Transmode (Trailer Donor)
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