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[GMCnet] Middle Brakes - Disc kits [message #155467] Wed, 04 January 2012 22:06 Go to next message
Dolph Santorine is currently offline  Dolph Santorine   United States
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My brake project has become more of a project than I expected (broken bleeder screws, bad hoses) and I've decided that since I will be towing heavy that this is probably an opportune time to eliminate one set of drums (the middle) and add a set of disks (the middle as well).

I'm looking at the TSM Manufacturing kit, but am worried about the size of the calipers (look like 60mm to me), and am unclear on the "Cadillac" conversion.

Suggestions/comments/input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!


Dolph

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Re: [GMCnet] Middle Brakes - Disc kits [message #155477 is a reply to message #155467] Wed, 04 January 2012 23:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gerald Wheeler is currently offline  Gerald Wheeler   United States
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Get your middle rear disc brake from JimK; he has everything you need and
will provide any assistance you need. JMHO.

JR Wheeler NC/OR



> [Original Message]
> From: Dolph Santorine <dolph@dolphsantorine.com>
> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Date: 1/4/2012 11:06:50 PM
> Subject: [GMCnet] Middle Brakes - Disc kits
>
> My brake project has become more of a project than I expected (broken
bleeder screws, bad hoses) and I've decided that since I will be towing
heavy that this is probably an opportune time to eliminate one set of drums
(the middle) and add a set of disks (the middle as well).
>
> I'm looking at the TSM Manufacturing kit, but am worried about the size
of the calipers (look like 60mm to me), and am unclear on the "Cadillac"
conversion.
>
> Suggestions/comments/input would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Dolph
>
> DE N8JPC
> Wheeling, West Virginia
> dolph@dolphsantorine.com
>
> 1977 GMC 26' Palm Beach
> TZE167V100820
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> 1976 GMC 26' Donor Coach
> TZE166V101610
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Re: [GMCnet] Middle Brakes - Disc kits [message #155488 is a reply to message #155467] Thu, 05 January 2012 04:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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> I'm looking at the TSM Manufacturing kit, but am worried about the size of
> the calipers (look like 60mm to me),


that is the good news, this will let you keep your original master cyl. and
give your 300lb more pressure, and more clamping pressure at the
caliper.(see charts - thanks DaveM)

http://gmcmotorhome.info/GMCBrakeCalcs.pdf

the best of all worlds, OEM master cyl, more pressure, and easier /
cheaper to make the change.
gene

and am unclear on the "Cadillac" conversion.
>
> Suggestions/comments/input would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Dolph
>
> DE N8JPC
> Wheeling, West Virginia
> dolph@dolphsantorine.com
>
> 1977 GMC 26' Palm Beach
> TZE167V100820
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> TZE166V101610
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Re: [GMCnet] Middle Brakes - Disc kits [message #155520 is a reply to message #155467] Thu, 05 January 2012 11:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
78 Barbi is currently offline  78 Barbi   Canada
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Dolph from Wheeling wrote: Looking for input on upgrading mid axle brakes.
Dolph,
To possibly help in deciding what approach to take regarding upgrading you mid axle brakes , You might want to check our PDF on our website regarding disc brakes. The website is www.bdub.net/branscombe "Disc brake improvements" The Lambke forked caliper mount for the Toro / Eldorado family of calipers in the most rigid mount available.
Pay particular attention to slides 120 to 134 inclusive. We are running 6 wheel disc brakes with an OEM master cylinder , ie. two sets of 80 mm calipers and a set of 66 mm Kelsey Hayes PB calipers. Also to keep in compliance with DOT / SAE conventions you will have to go to a P30 type master cylinder OR place an auxiallary resevoir of the Pegausus auto racing type on your existing OEM master cylinder.
Cheers........Albert Branscombe
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Re: [GMCnet] Middle Brakes - Disc kits [message #155581 is a reply to message #155520] Thu, 05 January 2012 17:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Al,

I must compliment you on the info on your website, I now know more that I'll ever need to know about the rear braking system!

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Albert&Sheila Branscombe

To possibly help in deciding what approach to take regarding upgrading you mid axle brakes , You might want to check our PDF on our
website regarding disc brakes. The website is www.bdub.net/branscombe "Disc brake improvements" The Lambke forked caliper mount
for the Toro / Eldorado family of calipers in the most rigid mount available.
Pay particular attention to slides 120 to 134 inclusive. We are running 6 wheel disc brakes with an OEM master cylinder , ie. two
sets of 80 mm calipers and a set of 66 mm Kelsey Hayes PB calipers. Also to keep in compliance with DOT / SAE conventions you will
have to go to a P30 type master cylinder OR place an auxiallary resevoir of the Pegausus auto racing type on your existing OEM
master cylinder.
Cheers........Albert Branscombe

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Re: [GMCnet] Middle Brakes - Disc kits [message #155653 is a reply to message #155520] Thu, 05 January 2012 23:21 Go to previous message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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78 Barbi wrote on Thu, 05 January 2012 11:03

Dolph from Wheeling wrote: Looking for input on upgrading mid axle brakes.
Dolph,
To possibly help in deciding what approach to take regarding upgrading you mid axle brakes , You might want to check our PDF on our website regarding disc brakes. The website is www.bdub.net/branscombe "Disc brake improvements" The Lambke forked caliper mount for the Toro / Eldorado family of calipers in the most rigid mount available.
Pay particular attention to slides 120 to 134 inclusive. We are running 6 wheel disc brakes with an OEM master cylinder , ie. two sets of 80 mm calipers and a set of 66 mm Kelsey Hayes PB calipers. Also to keep in compliance with DOT / SAE conventions you will have to go to a P30 type master cylinder OR place an auxiliary reservoir of the Pegausus auto racing type on your existing OEM master cylinder.
Cheers........Albert Branscombe
78 Barbi
The 23 foot Birchaven
Tiverton, ON branscoa@bmts.com


Take a good look at what Al is offering. He knows the braking system inside and out.

Ken B.


Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana

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