| Machinac Bridge Toll increase - now 15$ [message #154913] |
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Matt Colie
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If you plan on traveling Michigan's upper peninsula, be ready. If you have a GMC you will get nailed for the same toll as a Greyhound bus. The motorhome toll is now 5$ per "axle". Their definition is tires seen in side view only. There is no consideration of vehicle weight at all. Twice the MBA has claimed it was a weight based toll. I wish I had to energy to take them to court on that falsehood.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: Machinac Bridge Toll increase - now 15$ [message #154933 is a reply to message #154913] |
Sat, 31 December 2011 14:58  |
Bob de Kruyff
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A few years ago they charged me a premium because my pickup was a 3/4 T and they considered it a commercial vehicle. As far as my GMC, I don't think I was ever charged the same price twice on that bridge.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: Machinac Bridge Toll increase - now 15$ [message #154937 is a reply to message #154913] |
Sat, 31 December 2011 16:28 |
Rick Williams
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A 2 axle car will now be $4.00. If you are in the GMC and towing that same car it will $25.00 because you have 5 axles. Disconnect the car and drive over separately and it will be $15.00 for the coach and $4.00 for the car for a total of $19.00. Go figure. I guess it is just your government at it's best again.
But Michigan is a great place to visit so come on up. I would however suggest that you wait until at least June. Early August is the best for lack of biting bugs and the lakes are the warmest for swimming. There is an excellent national forest campground on Lake Michigan about 20 miles west of the Mackinac bridge in the UP. Several miles of sand beach in that area. Some of the sites can be reserved online at reserveamerica.com.
Rick
Rick Williams
Bliss, Michigan
1978 Eleganza II
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| Re: Machinac Bridge Toll increase - now 15$ [message #154938 is a reply to message #154913] |
Sat, 31 December 2011 16:41 |
GeorgeRud
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Here in Illinois (especially here in Crook County), the Tollway Authority is increasing tolls by 85% tomorrow! These tollroads were supposed to become freeways once the original bonds were paid off (many, many years ago), but somehow that's changed.
Gotta love governments when they've run out of money!
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Machinac Bridge Toll increase - now 15$ [message #154941 is a reply to message #154938] |
Sat, 31 December 2011 17:17 |
jhbridges
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Alabama is the only place they actually did that which I know of. When the Bankhed Tunnel going under Mobile Bay was paid off, the legislooters wanted to keep charging, but the Gooberner said no, and they pulled up the toll booths and it's now free. Or was, anyway, I expect it still is.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode Norris
'76 Palm Beach
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From: George Rudawsky <GeorgeRud@aol.com>
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Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Machinac Bridge Toll increase - now 15$
Here in Illinois (especially here in Crook County), the Tollway Authority is increasing tolls by 85% tomorrow! These tollroads were supposed to become freeways once the original bonds were paid off (many, many years ago), but somehow that's changed.
Gotta love governments when they've run out of money!
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George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Machinac Bridge Toll increase - now 15$ [message #154944 is a reply to message #154941] |
Sat, 31 December 2011 17:44 |
Ken Burton
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| Johnny Bridges wrote on Sat, 31 December 2011 17:17 |
Alabama is the only place they actually did that which I know of. When the Bankhed Tunnel going under Mobile Bay was paid off, the legislooters wanted to keep charging, but the Gooberner said no, and they pulled up the toll booths and it's now free. Or was, anyway, I expect it still is.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode Norris
'76 Palm Beach
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Kentucky stopped collecting tolls on all of their toll roads in late 2006. They were considering some new tolls to build some bridges across the Ohio river and to finance the construction of a new Interstate. I do not know where that stands. I think everything is still free down there.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: Machinac Bridge Toll increase - now 15$ [message #154975 is a reply to message #154974] |
Sat, 31 December 2011 22:56 |
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jaholland
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Hey Guys ;
May I Suggest A Simple Solution For This &&& Problem ~
What about one of our fine GMCers Design The Following ;
~~> 'A Tag Axle Air-Lift System' <~~
* {similar to the lift axle on the Tri-Axle Dump Truck}
Right before we stop at the 'Toll Booth'
we engage the front {center] Lift toggle switch and tha
air pressure lifts that set of wheels up off of the pavement ~
Thus
We Now Have A 2 Axle CUSTOM Oldsmobile Tornada
With
Only A $4.00 Toll Charge ~
~ ANOTHER PROBLEM SOLVED by a bonified GMCer ~
~ Joe ~
/_]*[__][] *[__|] ~ * '73 TZE063V101887 "
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O----------OO--]* ~ '78 TZE168V100234 "
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" Joe & Lavelle " "
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'sweet home alebamy'
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| Re: Machinac Bridge Toll increase - now 15$ [message #154982 is a reply to message #154974] |
Sun, 01 January 2012 01:22 |
Bob de Kruyff
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| Larry wrote on Sat, 31 December 2011 21:38 |
Honesty you guys...how many times in your life do you cross that bridge? To me it was worth the $25 just to see the UP. Just pay the toll and get on with your life. We've all spent more money on lesser things. JMHO (ducking)
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For people who live or lived in Michigan it was a very frequent occurance and not only was it aggravating but a big part of a weekend camping budget.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: Machinac Bridge Toll increase - now 15$ [message #154983 is a reply to message #154975] |
Sun, 01 January 2012 01:25 |
Bob de Kruyff
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| jaholland wrote on Sat, 31 December 2011 21:56 |
Hey Guys ;
May I Suggest A Simple Solution For This &&& Problem ~
What about one of our fine GMCers Design The Following ;
~~> 'A Tag Axle Air-Lift System' <~~
* {similar to the lift axle on the Tri-Axle Dump Truck}
Right before we stop at the 'Toll Booth'
we engage the front {center] Lift toggle switch and tha
air pressure lifts that set of wheels up off of the pavement ~
Thus
We Now Have A 2 Axle CUSTOM Oldsmobile Tornada
With
Only A $4.00 Toll Charge ~
~ ANOTHER PROBLEM SOLVED by a bonified GMCer ~
~ Joe ~
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If I recall, they have a visual counter that detects the number of axles , not by weight sensors, so they really don't care or know if the tires are touching the road.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Machinac Bridge Toll increase - now 15$ [message #154987 is a reply to message #154977] |
Sun, 01 January 2012 06:33 |
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mike miller
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Rather than the vacuum pump, you could replace one set of shocks with air shocks. Pressurizing them would extend them and lift the wheels, as our shocks work 'backwards'.
| Robert Mueller wrote on Sat, 31 December 2011 21:37 |
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4) Vent all the pressure out of the rear air bags through the Schrader valve.
5) Connect a vacuum pump to the rear air bags through the Schrader valve.
6) Raise the rear wheels by evacuating the air out of the rear air bags.
7) ....
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> May I Suggest A Simple Solution For This &&& Problem ~
> ~~> 'A Tag Axle Air-Lift System' <~~
> * {similar to the lift axle on the Tri-Axle Dump Truck}
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Other thoughts:
-- I suspect large trucks with the extra "tag" axles only have to pay for the "extra axles" if they are loaded enough to need them.
-- You would be overloading the "in use" axle and tires by quite a bit. But you should not need to drive this way for very long.
-- lifting the rear-most wheels should reduce the turning radius. Lifting the front should be more stable.
Any other thoughts?
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
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| Re: [GMCnet] Machinac Bridge Toll increase - now 15$ [message #155015 is a reply to message #154995] |
Sun, 01 January 2012 13:25 |
george beck
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As a radio talk show host states the govt looks at the auto as a Cash Cow, so us motorhomers must be thought of as drivers of a Cash Elephant. Gas, Tolls, Camp Ground Fees, getting out of hand.
beebos
73Sequoia
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From: Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Machinac Bridge Toll increase - now 15$
Mike,
Agreed, but I doubt you'll find a set of air shocks that will work. Plus a hand type Mighty Vac pump would a lot cheaper!
Come to think of it all you would have to do is vent the Schrader valve and put a jack under the rear bogie and jack it up!
Fun to toy with the idea just to mess with the "government" but as someone mentioned earlier "just pay the toll!" ;-)
Regards,
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Miller
Rather than the vacuum pump, you could replace one set of shocks with air shocks. Pressurizing them would extend them and lift the
wheels, as our shocks work 'backwards'.
Other thoughts:
-- I suspect large trucks with the extra "tag" axles only have to pay for the "extra axles" if they are loaded enough to need them.
-- You would be overloading the "in use" axle and tires by quite a bit. But you should not need to drive this way for very long.
-- lifting the rear-most wheels should reduce the turning radius. Lifting the front should be more stable.
Any other thoughts?
--
Mike
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