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Wed, 21 December 2011 13:52  |
skip2
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On my 74 Grand Canyons I found stuck behind the side console a bombardier switch tied to the kickdown switch on the gas pedal. I've heard of these, is there a corect procedure for using this where it doesn't scramble the tranny.
Skip
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| Re: [GMCnet] tranny kickdown switch [message #153930 is a reply to message #153926] |
Wed, 21 December 2011 14:02  |
Ken Henderson
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Word from Manny and others is that kick-down is NOT a good idea.
Using the lever for S provides more hydraulic pressure to the bands
(or clutches?).
JWIH,
Ken H.
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Skip Hartline wrote:
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| Re: [GMCnet] tranny kickdown switch [message #153932 is a reply to message #153930] |
Wed, 21 December 2011 14:12 |
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Do mean "slow" when you say S
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Springfield Distributor,
2001 Chevy Tracker Ragtop Towd
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| Re: [GMCnet] tranny kickdown switch [message #153933 is a reply to message #153930] |
Wed, 21 December 2011 14:14 |
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| Ken Henderson wrote on Wed, 21 December 2011 13:02 |
Word from Manny and others is that kick-down is NOT a good idea.
Using the lever for S provides more hydraulic pressure to the bands
(or clutches?).
JWIH,
Ken H.
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Skip Hartline wrote:
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> On my 74 Grand Canyons I found stuck behind the side console a bombardier switch tied to the kickdown switch on the gas pedal. I've heard of these, is there a corect procedure for using this where it doesn't scramble the tranny.
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I subscribe to both methods. If I'm climbing I'll pull the lever into 2 or 1 but it's still nice to have the kickdown switch operational for those quick passing or in town maneuvers.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] tranny kickdown switch [message #153937 is a reply to message #153932] |
Wed, 21 December 2011 14:20 |
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I'd always thought it stood for Second. Park, Reverse, Neutral, Drive, Second, Low is what I always thought the PRNDSL stood for.
Larry Davick
Fremont, California
The Mystery Machine
'76 (ish) Palm Beach
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From: "Skip Hartline" <ol.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] tranny kickdown switch
Do mean "slow" when you say S
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| Re: [GMCnet] tranny kickdown switch [message #153938 is a reply to message #153937] |
Wed, 21 December 2011 14:33 |
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The dash has been replaced and it doesn't have an S
74 Canyon Lands, FiTech,
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Springfield Distributor,
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| Re: [GMCnet] tranny kickdown switch [message #153939 is a reply to message #153937] |
Wed, 21 December 2011 14:39 |
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| ljdavick wrote on Wed, 21 December 2011 14:20 |
I'd always thought it stood for Second. Park, Reverse, Neutral, Drive, Second, Low is what I always thought the PRNDSL stood for.
Larry Davick
Fremont, California
The Mystery Machine
'76 (ish) Palm Beach
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From: "Skip Hartline" <ol.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] tranny kickdown switch
Do mean "slow" when you say S
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~ NOPE ~ It Is None Of The Above ~
I Speak From Experience ~
Having Purchased A New 1956 Dodge D500 2 Door Hardtop,
with a HEMI and Push Button Powrtflite Tranny~
When I took my girlfriend for her 1st ride in it,
she asked about the buttons on the left side of the dash ~
SO
I EXPLAINED As Follows;
D ~> Is For DAY Driving ~
N ~ Is For NIGHT Driving ~
L ~ Is For LONG Trips ~
R ~ Is For RIGHT STRAIGHT AHEAD ~
{ and she believed me }
~ Joe ~
/_]*[__][] *[__|] ~ * '73 TZE063V101887 "
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| Re: [GMCnet] tranny kickdown switch [message #153941 is a reply to message #153939] |
Wed, 21 December 2011 14:49 |
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We had a 56 plymouth savoy with the same tranny, when I was a KID, and they always told me the r was for race
74 Canyon Lands, FiTech,
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| Re: [GMCnet] tranny kickdown switch [message #153942 is a reply to message #153937] |
Wed, 21 December 2011 14:58 |
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I seem to remember from growing up with my dad, who was an
"Oldsmobile Man" (we had a 55 '88, and 61 and 63 "Dynamic
88"s) that the S stood for "Super" drive, Oldsmobile's term
for 2nd gear.
On 12/21/2011 12:20 PM, Larry Davick wrote:
> I'd always thought it stood for Second. Park, Reverse, Neutral, Drive, Second, Low is what I always thought the PRNDSL stood for.
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| Re: [GMCnet] tranny kickdown switch [message #153943 is a reply to message #153939] |
Wed, 21 December 2011 15:04 |
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Since we have fallen off the edge into the humorous side. I need to ask advise. The first part of the story is true. I went out to my pickup Sunday AM parked in the side yard and laid out by it was a beautiful 5x8 throw rug not a thing wrong with it other than damp from he dew. My question is do I call our commander in chief and tell him I've got an Iranian stealth drone that landed in my side yard and see if he could negotiate to get our's back from Iran. LOL
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| Re: [GMCnet] tranny kickdown switch [message #153944 is a reply to message #153937] |
Wed, 21 December 2011 15:12 |
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""I'd always thought it stood for Second. Park, Reverse, Neutral, Drive, Second, Low is what I always thought the PRNDSL stood for.
park, reverse, neutral, drive, super and low in this case
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: tranny kickdown switch [message #153958 is a reply to message #153926] |
Wed, 21 December 2011 17:23 |
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it sure helps using "super" when you drive over the mountains.
for those of you who have not, you should, it will add to the respect level for the trans, it helps with the brakes too
brian
asheboro, nc
75 eleganza, 74 build
119k miles and counting,
DOG HOUSE
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| Re: tranny kick down switch [message #153963 is a reply to message #153926] |
Wed, 21 December 2011 18:47 |
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I unplugged my kick down and only pull it into super manually. My tranny has a shift kit in it so it shifts harder then stock. On a hill it down shifted OK but at times the up shift was too violent. I unplugged it to save the tranny from destroying itself.
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook
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| Re: [GMCnet] tranny kickdown switch [message #153965 is a reply to message #153954] |
Wed, 21 December 2011 18:57 |
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When we learnt though, the Dodge and Plynmouth had (in my not very humble opinion) the best automatic transmission ever constructed - the A727 TorqueFlite. (And it's l'il brother the A929). Ause the FordOMatic, it would break in half. Abuse the TorqueFLite, it merely chirps the tires and keeps on shiftin'. On my 340 car, it would break the tires and get sideays every time it shifted.
--johnny
'76 23' transmode norris
'76 palm beach
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From: Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] tranny kickdown switch
Dang! The owners manual says "S"uper too.
Just what I get for learning to drive in a Dodge.
Larry Davick
Fremont, California
The Mystery Machine
'76 (ish) Palm Beach
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From: "Ken Henderson" <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 2:33:53 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] tranny kickdown switch
"S"uper = 2nd gear.
Ken H.
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Skip Hartline <skiphartline@aol.com> wrote:
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tranny options [message #153990 is a reply to message #153975] |
Wed, 21 December 2011 20:33 |
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| Greg and April wrote on Wed, 21 December 2011 18:19 |
All this talk about the tranny kickdown switch, has me wondering what
options there are for improving on the stock tranny - any thoughts?
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Greg H.
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of what you feel, if you grovel before what you dislike... Our nervous
system isn't just fiction, it's part of our physical body, and it can't be
forever violated with impunity."
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You need to be carefull about this net since you may get anxiety attacks if you take it all at face value. The THM 425 is as good as it gets. I would concentrate on maintaining it with regular oil changes and watch the temps if you can. Other than that, leave it alone. There's a distinct danger about "knowing too much" about the details. I have met many owners who have never read the net and blissfully enjoy the coaches to the limit.
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| Re: tranny kickdown switch [message #153994 is a reply to message #153926] |
Wed, 21 December 2011 20:45 |
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I'd leave the kickdown connected, as those engineer guys at GM designed it. You can still shift manually in demading situations, and I do. A bigger 'no no' is with it disconnected you can lug the engine (Dick P and Jim K and others will vouch for that being a "bad" thing) I'd rather have a touch more wear on the trans than lug the engine and have the MH not respond when trying to accelerate.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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