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USAussie
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G'day,
I was reading a recent thread that mentioned these detectors and I couldn't remember if I we had listed installing them when we
created the Fire Prevention Document that resides on the Eastern States GMC Website. I checked and we mentioned installing a smoke
detector but not a CO2 or LPG detector.
I mentioned it to Byron and he thought installing them would be a good idea and asked for my opinion. I noted that neither of my
GMC's have CO2 or LPG detectors. I have considered installing them but it's still a round-to-it.
At any rate as I understand it you can get individual or combination units.
1) What detectors do you have in your GMC?
2) Where did you get them?
3) Where did mount them?
Regards,
Rob M.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Detectors - Smoke - CO2 - LPG [message #153686 is a reply to message #153677] |
Tue, 20 December 2011 08:35  |
lqqkatjon
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Rob,
battery operated co2 alarms are cheap. 10-15 bucks. Home depot, Lowes. they all carry plenty to choose from, cheap. I have two in my coach. They have gone dead enough times. but I have an unlimited supply of AA batteries. I like those because I do not have to worry about any drain on my coach batteries while it is sitting.
I do have a gas 110V alarm that I plug in bought from home depot.
I also have a 12 volt, LGP and CO2. but I have not installed that yet. I am not happy with most mounting locations yet. or had the time to run the wires. that was bought from an online RV retailer.
if a person runs any heater. then I think it is a cheap 15 bucks for the battery alarm.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Detectors - Smoke - CO2 - LPG [message #153693 is a reply to message #153686] |
Tue, 20 December 2011 08:56 |
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OK. I clarified it with Rob but need to here. What we're talking about is a
carbon monoxide detector. We don't need carbon dioxide detectors any more
than we need H20 detectors. Brain fart on my part.
Now, we do have the MTI Industries 60-541 12V Carbon Monoxide Detector. The
description is --
MTI Industries 12-V Surface Mount Hard Wired Carbon Monoxide Alarm features
memory scan that retains alarm level for first responders after ventilation.
Fully operational during mute cycle and has long-life and has a
self-cleaning sensor.
Camping world has it with a free smoke detector. This one mounts near the
floor and the other mounts at the ceiling, of course.
Since we have a solar trickle charger for the 12-v I wasn't concerned about
draining the battery. Of course, when storing for the winter the batteries
get disconnected anyway.
I don't recall the current draw and I didn't read any spec about it via a
couple of online sources.
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Jon Roche wrote:
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> Rob,
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> battery operated co2 alarms are cheap. 10-15 bucks. Home depot, Lowes. they
> all carry plenty to choose from, cheap. I have two in my coach. They have
> gone dead enough times. but I have an unlimited supply of AA batteries. I
> like those because I do not have to worry about any drain on my coach
> batteries while it is sitting.
>
> I do have a gas 110V alarm that I plug in bought from home depot.
>
> I also have a 12 volt, LGP and CO2. but I have not installed that yet. I am
> not happy with most mounting locations yet. or had the time to run the wires.
> that was bought from an online RV retailer.
>
> if a person runs any heater. then I think it is a cheap 15 bucks for the
> battery alarm.
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Detectors - Smoke - CO2 - LPG [message #153698 is a reply to message #153677] |
Tue, 20 December 2011 09:10 |
Bob de Kruyff
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| Robert Mueller wrote on Tue, 20 December 2011 06:50 |
G'day,
I was reading a recent thread that mentioned these detectors and I couldn't remember if I we had listed installing them when we
created the Fire Prevention Document that resides on the Eastern States GMC Website. I checked and we mentioned installing a smoke
detector but not a CO2 or LPG detector.
I mentioned it to Byron and he thought installing them would be a good idea and asked for my opinion. I noted that neither of my
GMC's have CO2 or LPG detectors. I have considered installing them but it's still a round-to-it.
At any rate as I understand it you can get individual or combination units.
1) What detectors do you have in your GMC?
2) Where did you get them?
3) Where did mount them?
Regards,
Rob M.
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Rob--I have a combination CO and smoke detector mounted on the cabinet face near the entrance door. It is a 9V unit that seems to work fine--sometimes if I run the coach with the side door open it will set off the CO part and of course burning popcorn will set the smoke part off. I also have a propane gas detector mounted low below the kitchen cabinet. That one is hardwired at 12V. I bought that from an RV store somewhere. I hear the life of those units is marginal and I check it with a non lit butane clicker. I think I'm on my 3rd one of those--not a very comforting feeling on that part.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Detectors - Smoke - CO(-2) - LPG [message #153703 is a reply to message #153699] |
Tue, 20 December 2011 09:19 |
Dolph Santorine
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Gee, with a CO2 detector I would not be able to either exhale or enjoy a diet coke.
Then again, I could go on a tear about DiHydrogen Monoxide and it's inherit dangers.
Dolph
On Dec 20, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Matt Colie wrote:
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> Robert Mueller wrote on Tue, 20 December 2011 08:50
>> G'day,
>>
>> I was reading a recent thread that mentioned these detectors and I couldn't remember if I we had listed installing them when we
>> created the Fire Prevention Document that resides on the Eastern States GMC Website. I checked and we mentioned installing a smoke
>> detector but not a CO2 or LPG detector.
>>
>> I mentioned it to Byron and he thought installing them would be a good idea and asked for my opinion. I noted that neither of my
>> GMC's have CO2 or LPG detectors. I have considered installing them but it's still a round-to-it.
>>
>> At any rate as I understand it you can get individual or combination units.
>>
>> 1) What detectors do you have in your GMC?
>> 2) Where did you get them?
>> 3) Where did mount them?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rob M.
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> Rob,
> A common issue.
> We are looking for a CO not CO2 detector.
> CO2 detector can be had, but they are very expensive and of little value in our case.
>
> Matt
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| Re: [GMCnet] Detectors - Smoke - CO(-2) - LPG [message #153716 is a reply to message #153705] |
Tue, 20 December 2011 10:05 |
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Where's the EPA when you need them. This got past the Bush administration
and appears to have the Obama administration confused, too. I suspect the
liberal media has partnered with Rush Limbaugh to keep this one off the
front page.
Man, you just can't trust anyone now days.
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Matt Colie wrote:
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> Dolph Santorine wrote on Tue, 20 December 2011 10:19
>> Gee, with a CO2 detector I would not be able to either exhale or enjoy a diet
>> coke.
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>> Then again, I could go on a tear about DiHydrogen Monoxide and it's inherit
>> dangers.
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>> Dolph
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> Hydrogen Hydroxide is easily as dangerous, and it gets no press coverage at
> all. ;)
> Matt
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| Re: [GMCnet] Detectors - Smoke - CO2 - LPG [message #153755 is a reply to message #153677] |
Tue, 20 December 2011 14:34 |
GeorgeRud
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Penn and Teller did a show on the environmental movement, and had a great time having people sign a petition to ban the use of the dreaded dihydrogenmonoxide (it's been detected in our food, drinking water and in our bodies!). It was very funny (though rather sad) to see the amount of people that signed the petition in their environmental zeal as soon as it was presented to them!
Do folks have any suggestions on detectors? While I have the FireFight fire suppression systems in my coach, I have not purchased and installed any detectors yet. I thought it may not be a bad idea to mount the CO and smoke detector above the fridge cabinet (where the wall juts out to accomodate the bath module), and the propane detector down low at the same area (since both the oven and propane fired refrigerator are in that area). Are these good locations or should I choose another spot?
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Detectors - Smoke - CO2 - LPG [message #153804 is a reply to message #153755] |
Tue, 20 December 2011 19:38 |
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USAussie
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George,
Give me a second while I pull the hook out of my mouth!
Since I screwed up and asked about CO2 detectors I figger'd I would be a good idea to do a Google search for dihydrogenmonoxide!
DOUH AGAIN!
Regards,
Rob M.
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of George Rudawsky
Penn and Teller did a show on the environmental movement, and had a great time having people sign a petition to ban the use of the
dreaded dihydrogenmonoxide (it's been detected in our food, drinking water and in our bodies!). It was very funny (though rather
sad) to see the amount of people that signed the petition in their environmental zeal as soon as it was presented to them!
Do folks have any suggestions on detectors? While I have the FireFight fire suppression systems in my coach, I have not purchased
and installed any detectors yet. I thought it may not be a bad idea to mount the CO and smoke detector above the fridge cabinet
(where the wall juts out to accomodate the bath module), and the propane detector down low at the same area (since both the oven and
propane fired refrigerator are in that area). Are these good locations or should I choose another spot?
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'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Detectors - Smoke - CO2 - LPG [message #153819 is a reply to message #153804] |
Tue, 20 December 2011 20:43 |
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http://www.dhmo.org/
What a hoot!
Byron
Rob Mueller wrote:
> George,
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> Give me a second while I pull the hook out of my mouth!
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> Since I screwed up and asked about CO2 detectors I figger'd I would be a good
> idea to do a Google search for dihydrogenmonoxide!
>
> DOUH AGAIN!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org]
> On Behalf Of George Rudawsky
>
> Penn and Teller did a show on the environmental movement, and had a great time
> having people sign a petition to ban the use of the
> dreaded dihydrogenmonoxide (it's been detected in our food, drinking water and
> in our bodies!). It was very funny (though rather
> sad) to see the amount of people that signed the petition in their
> environmental zeal as soon as it was presented to them!
>
> Do folks have any suggestions on detectors? While I have the FireFight fire
> suppression systems in my coach, I have not purchased
> and installed any detectors yet. I thought it may not be a bad idea to mount
> the CO and smoke detector above the fridge cabinet
> (where the wall juts out to accomodate the bath module), and the propane
> detector down low at the same area (since both the oven and
> propane fired refrigerator are in that area). Are these good locations or
> should I choose another spot?
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| Re: [GMCnet] Detectors - Smoke - CO2 - LPG [message #153841 is a reply to message #153835] |
Tue, 20 December 2011 23:45 |
glacierfl
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Hello,
So looks like the CO sensor goes fairly high up, nice to know.
Some good reading there, really scary how you can get brain damage !!!.
Ummmm i think i have that that already........
Odd thought, so how much carbon monoxide do ya get, when on a freeway !!!!
cheers and beers
Steve & Debbie
Monticello, FL
77 Palm Beach :- Aurora
EX G4WDT
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