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[GMCnet] toilet technology [message #153381] Sun, 18 December 2011 03:07 Go to next message
CardinalNSB is currently offline  CardinalNSB   United States
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My Aqua Magic is dated 1990. Does anyone think it is a good idea to
rebuild it vs. buying a newer unit?
Which units keep the smell away best? Thanks Skip Simpson


In a message dated 12/17/2011 10:01:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
gmclist-request@temp.gmcnet.org writes:

Sooo, what are you doing with the *Front* toilet?

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Re: [GMCnet] toilet technology [message #153391 is a reply to message #153381] Sun, 18 December 2011 07:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The new ones do not work as well as the old ones. I think the pump is not
nearly as strong. The odor is controlled by whatever additive you use. I
used the recommended Thetford product and odor was never an issue.

On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 2:07 AM, <CardinalNSB@aol.com> wrote:

> My Aqua Magic is dated 1990. Does anyone think it is a good idea to
> rebuild it vs. buying a newer unit?
> Which units keep the smell away best? Thanks Skip Simpson
>
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> In a message dated 12/17/2011 10:01:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> gmclist-request@temp.gmcnet.org writes:
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> Sooo, what are you doing with the *Front* toilet?
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Re: [GMCnet] toilet technology [message #153395 is a reply to message #153381] Sun, 18 December 2011 08:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rodney Hamilton is currently offline  Rodney Hamilton   Canada
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If the toilet still works than this vent modification is excellent for any odor issues.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5588

CardinalNSB wrote on Sun, 18 December 2011 04:07

My Aqua Magic is dated 1990. Does anyone think it is a good idea to
rebuild it vs. buying a newer unit?
Which units keep the smell away best? Thanks Skip Simpson





Rodney Hamilton
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Re: [GMCnet] toilet technology [message #153435 is a reply to message #153395] Sun, 18 December 2011 13:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
roy1 is currently offline  roy1   United States
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Rodney Hamilton wrote on Sun, 18 December 2011 06:34

If the toilet still works than this vent modification is excellent for any odor issues.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5588

CardinalNSB wrote on Sun, 18 December 2011 04:07

My Aqua Magic is dated 1990. Does anyone think it is a good idea to
rebuild it vs. buying a newer unit?
Which units keep the smell away best? Thanks Skip Simpson







That is interesting my wife used to use that thing with a close pin on her nose. She never minded using out houses too much but since I replaced it with a new china bowl std. type she wants no part of the outhouses.


Roy Keen Minden,NV 76 X Glenbrook
Re: [GMCnet] toilet technology [message #153538 is a reply to message #153395] Mon, 19 December 2011 10:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry C   United States
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My first year with the GMC had some oder problems with the Toilet. I found keeping a positive pressure in the GMC kept the oder at bay.

I have toyed with the idea of putting a fan either by the HWH cabinet and pipe it to the roof or pipe it to the roof and put a fan on the roof.

I have not moved forward with this because I have not used it for awhile, finding the rest areas and Disneys comfort stations quite acceptable.


DEC 19
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it. It read, "2376-185." I asked my son if it was important.
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No. 185 for $23.76." Then he shrugged and popped
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Re: [GMCnet] toilet technology [message #153639 is a reply to message #153381] Mon, 19 December 2011 22:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RadioActiveGMC is currently offline  RadioActiveGMC   United States
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My toilet always smells like Roses...

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Re: [GMCnet] toilet technology [message #153658 is a reply to message #153639] Mon, 19 December 2011 23:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Berry is currently offline  Gary Berry   United States
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Hey;

Remember that the shower also drains to the black tank. If one
doesn't use the shower and if one doesn't fill the shower J-trap after
a period of non-use, then the smell can be coming from the J-trap if
the water has evaporated. We had this happen and now I always fill the
J-traps before we leave on a trip.
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Re: [GMCnet] toilet technology [message #153667 is a reply to message #153658] Tue, 20 December 2011 01:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ljdavick is currently offline  ljdavick   United States
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I stuck a plug in the drain. It was stinky and we've never used the shower. We're clean people, we just haven't used the shower in the coach, that's all.

Larry Davick
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On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:28 PM, Gary Berry <com> wrote:

> Hey;
>
> Remember that the shower also drains to the black tank. If one
> doesn't use the shower and if one doesn't fill the shower J-trap after
> a period of non-use, then the smell can be coming from the J-trap if
> the water has evaporated. We had this happen and now I always fill the
> J-traps before we leave on a trip.
> --
> Gary and Diana Berry
> 73 CL Stretch
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Re: [GMCnet] toilet technology [message #153717 is a reply to message #153658] Tue, 20 December 2011 10:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
shawnee is currently offline  shawnee   United States
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Gary Berry wrote on Tue, 20 December 2011 00:28

Hey;

Remember that the shower also drains to the black tank. If one
doesn't use the shower and if one doesn't fill the shower J-trap after
a period of non-use, then the smell can be coming from the J-trap if
the water has evaporated. We had this happen and now I always fill the
J-traps before we leave on a trip.
--
Gary and Diana Berry
73 CL Stretch in Wa.



Gary,

I pour RV antifreeze in the bathroom trap which doesn't evaporate and lasts for a long time if you don't use the shower. I do this in the fall and in all the traps when I am winterizing the coach.


Gene Dotson
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Re: [GMCnet] toilet technology [message #153720 is a reply to message #153658] Tue, 20 December 2011 10:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PETEinLongBeach is currently offline  PETEinLongBeach   United States
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Gary Berry wrote on Mon, 19 December 2011 21:28

Hey;

Remember that the shower also drains to the black tank. If one
doesn't use the shower and if one doesn't fill the shower J-trap after
a period of non-use, then the smell can be coming from the J-trap if
the water has evaporated. We had this happen and now I always fill the
J-traps before we leave on a trip.
--



Very true, and probably more common that people realize. Mine haden't been used in years, and the first warm day I had it out.... wow. Since everything else seemed fine, I just put some water down the shower drain, and the bathroom has smelled perfect ever since.

I love the idea of pouring in something that won't evaporate easily, if the shower will not be used for extended periods.


Pete Smay
Long Beach, CA
1977 Kingsley

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Re: [GMCnet] toilet technology [message #153758 is a reply to message #153658] Tue, 20 December 2011 15:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Greg and April is currently offline  Greg and April   United States
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Isn't shower water normally considered gray water?
.

Greg H.

"Your health is bound to be affected if, day after day, you say the opposite
of what you feel, if you grovel before what you dislike... Our nervous
system isn't just fiction, it's part of our physical body, and it can't be
forever violated with impunity."

Doctor Zhivago

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Berry" <duallycc@gmail.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 22:28
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] toilet technology


> Hey;
>
> Remember that the shower also drains to the black tank. If one
> doesn't use the shower and if one doesn't fill the shower J-trap after
> a period of non-use, then the smell can be coming from the J-trap if
> the water has evaporated. We had this happen and now I always fill the
> J-traps before we leave on a trip.
> --
> Gary and Diana Berry
> 73 CL Stretch in Wa.

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Re: [GMCnet] toilet technology [message #153763 is a reply to message #153758] Tue, 20 December 2011 15:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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""Isn't shower water normally considered gray water?
""

It is unless you have a GM upfitted coach that only has a black tank that holds everything. Some folks here have figured out a way around that, but sometimes that inflames others on the net.


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
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Re: [GMCnet] toilet technology [message #153770 is a reply to message #153763] Tue, 20 December 2011 16:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why would that happen?
.

Greg H.

"Your health is bound to be affected if, day after day, you say the opposite
of what you feel, if you grovel before what you dislike... Our nervous
system isn't just fiction, it's part of our physical body, and it can't be
forever violated with impunity."

Doctor Zhivago

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Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 14:47
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Some folks here have figured out a way around that, but sometimes that
inflames others on the net.
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Re: [GMCnet] toilet technology [message #153792 is a reply to message #153770] Tue, 20 December 2011 18:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Greg,

Quite a few of the black tank de-stinkers use formaldehyde or other chemicals that are not environmentally friendly.

Regards,
Rob M.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg and April

Why would that happen?

Greg H.

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob de Kruyff

Some folks here have figured out a way around that, but sometimes that inflames others on the net.
> --


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Re: [GMCnet] toilet technology [message #153802 is a reply to message #153770] Tue, 20 December 2011 19:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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""Why would that happen?
"" I can't explain the why part, but it involves letting grey water fall on the earth and some people don't like that apparently.


Bob de Kruyff
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Re: [GMCnet] toilet technology [message #153843 is a reply to message #153792] Tue, 20 December 2011 23:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That stuff isn't exactly people friendly either - I ended up with
formaldehyde poisoning my senior year in high school, when as a Teachers
Assistant, I was tasked with refilling **all** of the biology specimen jars
in the science dept. and wasn't given any protective gear.
.

Greg H.

"Your health is bound to be affected if, day after day, you say the opposite
of what you feel, if you grovel before what you dislike... Our nervous
system isn't just fiction, it's part of our physical body, and it can't be
forever violated with impunity."

Doctor Zhivago

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Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 17:52
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Greg,

Quite a few of the black tank de-stinkers use formaldehyde or other
chemicals that are not environmentally friendly.

Regards,
Rob M.

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Re: [GMCnet] toilet technology [message #153844 is a reply to message #153802] Tue, 20 December 2011 23:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the EPA allow for simple
bioremediation of gray water, rather than full sanitary disposal?
.

Greg H.

"Your health is bound to be affected if, day after day, you say the opposite
of what you feel, if you grovel before what you dislike... Our nervous
system isn't just fiction, it's part of our physical body, and it can't be
forever violated with impunity."

Doctor Zhivago

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From: "Bob de Kruyff" <NEXT2POOL@AOL.COM>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 18:38
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] toilet technology


>
>
> ""Why would that happen?
> "" I can't explain the why part, but it involves letting grey water fall
> on the earth and some people don't like that apparently.
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Re: [GMCnet] toilet technology [message #153867 is a reply to message #153843] Wed, 21 December 2011 06:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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All I've used in our black water tank for years is "Rid-X". A few
tablespoons full (whatever I happen to dump out of the box) into the
toilet after every few dumpings, especially if accompanied with a
rinsing, is sufficient to stimulate the bacteria to eliminate the
odor. We have an odor problem only if I don't dump soon enough and
the standpipe begins to fill.

Ken H.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob Mueller"
> Quite a few of the black tank de-stinkers use formaldehyde or other
> chemicals that are not environmentally friendly.
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Re: [GMCnet] toilet technology [message #153882 is a reply to message #153844] Wed, 21 December 2011 08:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Greg and April wrote on Wed, 21 December 2011 00:50

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the EPA allow for simple bioremediation of gray water, rather than full sanitary disposal?

Greg H.

Greg,

That is correct (subject to many local codes), but what you may not know is that many RVs used to have no gray tank at all and the waste water was surface discharged (thrown on the ground like a dark age community). As the GMC was built to be a traveler and not a cottage, the builders decided to give the owner only one tank to watch and dump.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] toilet technology [message #153902 is a reply to message #153381] Wed, 21 December 2011 10:02 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I have been using a product called Happy Camper for the past 10+ years and no odor problems since I started using. Bought smallest container and still have enough for several more years. It is a bacteria based product and after dumping there seems to be enough left in tank to provide a starter that I do not need to add each time.

I think Rid-X might be similar if not same at better price. Though considering how long a container has lasted price is not much of an issue.


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From: "Ken Henderson" <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
Date: Wed, Dec 21, 2011 4:47 am
Subject: [GMCnet] toilet technology
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>

All I've used in our black water tank for years is "Rid-X". A few
tablespoons full (whatever I happen to dump out of the box) into the
toilet after every few dumpings, especially if accompanied with a
rinsing, is sufficient to stimulate the bacteria to eliminate the
odor. We have an odor problem only if I don't dump soon enough and
the standpipe begins to fill.

Ken H.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob Mueller"
> Quite a few of the black tank de-stinkers use formaldehyde or other
> chemicals that are not environmentally friendly.
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