| Looking for Rivet nuts for led marker lights. [message #152720] |
Mon, 12 December 2011 19:10  |
glacierfl
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Hello,
i am having a big problem trying to get the correct Rivet nuts with the correct dimentions for the marker lights on the roof.
Please if anyone has some spare for this application i would gladly buy them from you. Enough for all the lights.
I did buy 100 with the correct screw thread size but they are too loose in the holes.
cheers and beers
Steve & Debbie
Monticello, FL
77 Palm Beach :- Aurora
EX G4WDT
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| Re: Looking for Rivet nuts for led marker lights. [message #152735 is a reply to message #152720] |
Mon, 12 December 2011 19:58  |
Ken Burton
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You may want to take the ones you have and mix up some epoxy or better yet epoxy and ground fiber glass. Then coat them liberally with the epoxy and install them. Wait 24 hours and they will be in there solid.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: Looking for Rivet nuts for led marker lights. [message #152743 is a reply to message #152740] |
Mon, 12 December 2011 20:54 |
glacierfl
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Hello
Does anyone know the exact rivnuts i need for the lights ???.
I spent ages in a local store, the only one who had a range of them. The ones i got still were not good fitting.
cheers and beers
Steve & Debbie
Monticello, FL
77 Palm Beach :- Aurora
EX G4WDT
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| Re: Looking for Rivet nuts for led marker lights. [message #152775 is a reply to message #152720] |
Tue, 13 December 2011 00:26 |
Adrien G.
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Steve,
McMaster-Carr will give you the best selection of different stiles of rivet nuts and stainless screws.
I was able to use a larger size of screws by drilling the marker light holes a tinny bit, and a bigger rivet nut to fit the badly enlarged holes on the caps (and we wander why we have leaks). Epoxi also helped in setting and sealing the rivet nut.
More food for thought.
Adrien & Jenny Genesoto
75 Glenbrook (26-3) Mods LS3.70 FD / Reaction Sys / 80mm Front&Intermidiate / Hydroboost / 16" Tires / Frame Rebuild / Interior Rebuild
Yuba City,Ca. Text 530-nine-3-three-3-nine-nine-6
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| Re: [GMCnet] Looking for Rivet nuts for led marker lights. [message #152777 is a reply to message #152775] |
Tue, 13 December 2011 01:03 |
jimk
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We stock the inner gasket that the lens need to seal in order for
moisture to be kept out. Without that seal, you'll need to caulk the
lenses to the metal body.
Go to our site and see what gasket I'm mentioning.
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Adrien Genesoto <fixman54@syix.com> wrote:
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> Steve,
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> McMaster-Carr will give you the best selection of different stiles of rivet nuts and stainless screws.
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> I was able to use a larger size of screws by drilling the marker light holes a tinny bit, and a bigger rivet nut to fit the badly enlarged holes on the caps (and we wander why we have leaks). Epoxi also helped in setting and sealing the rivet nut.
>
> More food for thought.
> --
> Adrien
> 75 Glenbrook
> Yuba City,Ca.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Looking for Rivet nuts for led marker lights. [message #152779 is a reply to message #152775] |
Tue, 13 December 2011 02:11 |
Greg and April
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I have not heard of rivet nuts before. I can understand the theory ( a
rivet that acts as a nut ) but how does it work - like a molly bolt for
sheet metal?
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Greg H.
"Your health is bound to be affected if, day after day, you say the opposite
of what you feel, if you grovel before what you dislike... Our nervous
system isn't just fiction, it's part of our physical body, and it can't be
forever violated with impunity."
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrien Genesoto" <fixman54@syix.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 23:26
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Looking for Rivet nuts for led marker lights.
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> Steve,
>
> McMaster-Carr will give you the best selection of different stiles of
> rivet nuts and stainless screws.
>
> I was able to use a larger size of screws by drilling the marker light
> holes a tinny bit, and a bigger rivet nut to fit the badly enlarged holes
> on the caps (and we wander why we have leaks). Epoxi also helped in
> setting and sealing the rivet nut.
>
> More food for thought.
> --
> Adrien
> 75 Glenbrook
> Yuba City,Ca.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Looking for Rivet nuts for led marker lights. [message #152783 is a reply to message #152780] |
Tue, 13 December 2011 06:26 |
petemosss
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Mc M-C is a similar story to my local tool supplier at @ $100 for a kit w. tool. The dreaded Harbor F. has a kit for $17. and has held up for over a year of increasing use. I am certainly more happy with this than the POS jacks, stands and tarps purchased there.
http://www.harborfreight.com/45-piece-threaded-insert-riveter-kit-1210.html
West Systems epoxy w. a bit of filler sealed and secured them just like Ken suggested. The old wire holes (big) were also sealed up and new (just big enough ) holes were drilled for new wire location (further back on light) and epoxy sealed too. A drop of blue thd. sealer on the screws and dry as a bone for over a year now, even with the monsoon Florida rains.
I think it will be real helpful in installing mounting points on aluminum ribs for lighting, speakers, etc.
Pete
74 Canyon Lands 26' "Emery"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Looking for Rivet nuts for led marker lights. [message #152788 is a reply to message #152783] |
Tue, 13 December 2011 09:44 |
Bruce Hart
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Customer input wasn't very convincing for me on the Hf model.
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 5:26 AM, pete <petemosss@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Mc M-C is a similar story to my local tool supplier at @ $100 for a kit w.
> tool. The dreaded Harbor F. has a kit for $17. and has held up for over a
> year of increasing use. I am certainly more happy with this than the POS
> jacks, stands and tarps purchased there.
>
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/45-piece-threaded-insert-riveter-kit-1210.html
>
> West Systems epoxy w. a bit of filler sealed and secured them just like
> Ken suggested. The old wire holes (big) were also sealed up and new (just
> big enough ) holes were drilled for new wire location (further back on
> light) and epoxy sealed too. A drop of blue thd. sealer on the screws and
> dry as a bone for over a year now, even with the monsoon Florida rains.
>
> I think it will be real helpful in installing mounting points on aluminum
> ribs for lighting, speakers, etc.
> --
> Pete
> 74 Canyon Lands 26' "Emery"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Looking for Rivet nuts for led marker lights. [message #152795 is a reply to message #152720] |
Tue, 13 December 2011 11:36 |
James Hupy
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Steve, do not try and use any mechanical fasteners like rivet nuts. The
most ideal fastener to secure the clearance lights to the roof caps of the
GMC are what is known as a well nut. They come in various sizes to fit the
hole that you already have after you dig out the original moly screws that
the factory used. They are a simple neoprene or rubber plug with a threaded
nut molded into the bottom. They have a lip on top that prevents them from
pulling through the hole. When a hold down screw goes through the clearance
light and engages the well nut screw, the nut is drawn up towards the
clearance light and the rubber body expands creating an absolutely water
tight seal. They are simple, easily installed, fairly inexpensive, widely
available ( Ace Hardware in your home town). I wouldn't use anything else
for that application.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 5:10 PM, steve & debbie <zzdebz@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Hello,
>
> i am having a big problem trying to get the correct Rivet nuts with the
> correct dimentions for the marker lights on the roof.
>
> Please if anyone has some spare for this application i would gladly buy
> them from you. Enough for all the lights.
>
> I did buy 100 with the correct screw thread size but they are too loose in
> the holes.
>
> cheers and beers
> --
> Steve & Debbie
> Monticello, FL
> 77 Palm Beach
> EX G4WDT
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| Re: [GMCnet] Looking for Rivet nuts for led marker lights. [message #152796 is a reply to message #152795] |
Tue, 13 December 2011 11:44 |
powerjon
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This is what available from MC if you want to try the well nut and
these fill the hole much better.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#well-nuts/=fchv3m
JR Wright
GMC Great Laker MHC
GMC Eastern States
GMCMHI
78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
On Dec 13, 2011, at 12:36 PM, James Hupy wrote:
> Steve, do not try and use any mechanical fasteners like rivet nuts.
> The
> most ideal fastener to secure the clearance lights to the roof caps
> of the
> GMC are what is known as a well nut. They come in various sizes to
> fit the
> hole that you already have after you dig out the original moly
> screws that
> the factory used. They are a simple neoprene or rubber plug with a
> threaded
> nut molded into the bottom. They have a lip on top that prevents
> them from
> pulling through the hole. When a hold down screw goes through the
> clearance
> light and engages the well nut screw, the nut is drawn up towards the
> clearance light and the rubber body expands creating an absolutely
> water
> tight seal. They are simple, easily installed, fairly inexpensive,
> widely
> available ( Ace Hardware in your home town). I wouldn't use anything
> else
> for that application.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, OR
> 78 GMC Royale 403
>
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 5:10 PM, steve & debbie <zzdebz@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> i am having a big problem trying to get the correct Rivet nuts with
>> the
>> correct dimentions for the marker lights on the roof.
>>
>> Please if anyone has some spare for this application i would gladly
>> buy
>> them from you. Enough for all the lights.
>>
>> I did buy 100 with the correct screw thread size but they are too
>> loose in
>> the holes.
>>
>> cheers and beers
>> --
>> Steve & Debbie
>> Monticello, FL
>> 77 Palm Beach
>> EX G4WDT
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GMCMI
78 30' Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion Under Reconstruction
Michigan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Looking for Rivet nuts for led marker lights. [message #152801 is a reply to message #152800] |
Tue, 13 December 2011 12:09 |
powerjon
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This might be a better choice.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#vibration-damping-sandwich-mounts/=fci74l
JR Wright
GMC Great Laker MHC
GMC Eastern States
GMCMHI
78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
On Dec 13, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Larry Davick wrote:
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> On Dec 13, 2011, at 9:44 AM, John Wright wrote:
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>> This is what available from MC if you want to try the well nut and
>> these fill the hole much better.
>>
>> http://www.mcmaster.com/#well-nuts/=fchv3m
>>
>>
>> JR Wright
>> GMC Great Laker MHC
>> GMC Eastern States
>> GMCMHI
>> 78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
>> 1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
>> Michigan
>
> This would be a great way to secure things to the frame that need a
> little isolation. I'll just bet that a few of these in the frame
> would make my buzzy fuel pump quiet down.
>
> Larry Davick
> The Mystery Machine
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| Re: [GMCnet] Looking for Rivet nuts for led marker lights. [message #152803 is a reply to message #152800] |
Tue, 13 December 2011 12:22 |
Ray Erspamer
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The rubber well nuts work GREAT and really seal things up. I would definitely
also recommend them !
Ray
Ray & Lisa Erspamer
78 Royale "Great Lakes Eagle"
Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
----- Original Message ----
From: Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Tue, December 13, 2011 11:59:21 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Looking for Rivet nuts for led marker lights.
On Dec 13, 2011, at 9:44 AM, John Wright wrote:
> This is what available from MC if you want to try the well nut and
> these fill the hole much better.
>
> http://www.mcmaster.com/#well-nuts/=fchv3m
>
>
> JR Wright
> GMC Great Laker MHC
> GMC Eastern States
> GMCMHI
> 78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
> 1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
> Michigan
This would be a great way to secure things to the frame that need a little
isolation. I'll just bet that a few of these in the frame would make my buzzy
fuel pump quiet down.
Larry Davick
The Mystery Machine
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| Re: [GMCnet] Looking for Rivet nuts for led marker lights. [message #152831 is a reply to message #152807] |
Tue, 13 December 2011 16:52 |
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Steve, I don't know what you call them. I took my old screw with me to the lumberyard. Found these white inserts with threads. Got stainless screws to fit. Drilled the holes out just a tad and popped them in. Enough to do the coach for less than a buck.
If I can find one unused I will take a picture and post.
Dan
3 In Stainless Exhaust Headers
One Ton All Discs/Reaction Arm
355 FD/Quad Bag/Alum Radiator Manny Tran/New eng.
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