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[GMCnet] Photos of ES Rally Posted [message #152074] Wed, 07 December 2011 16:01 Go to next message
Byron Songer is currently offline  Byron Songer   United States
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I finally got around to getting two dozen photos of the Eastern States rally
in Milan, MI posted. They can be seen at --
http://www.gmceast.com/rallies/rallies/fall11_photos.html

The rally was held the weekend after the GMCMI convention in Goshen back in
September.

Paul Deesen, who was a designer at GM, gave an interesting presentation on
his work as a design artist. Paul worked on concept sketches of the GMC
MotorHome and also did designs on Buicks, Chevrolets, Pontiacs, and a few
Oldsmobiles before retiring nearly 15 years ago.

Paul also told us that the full-sized clay model of the TZE was the largest
that had ever been done at GMC. He said they had to clean out a nearly
vacant room so they'd have space. Since it was the largest clay model they
had done they didn't know how the clay would behave. The designers/sculptors
found that they had to insert support rods into the form to keep the clay
from sagging. Of course, they made this discovery after working one day and
coming in the next morning to see it drooping out of shape.

With his cooperation, he's sent me a DVD of several scanned images of his
drawings. The size of the images are too large to get into a slide show for
viewing in a browser so they'll all have to be resized. It's my goal to get
about 48 of them posted to a slide show in the next week or so. You'll enjoy
them, I'm sure.

--

Byron Songer
Louisville, KY
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Re: [GMCnet] Photos of ES Rally Posted [message #152075 is a reply to message #152074] Wed, 07 December 2011 16:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Worobec is currently offline  Gary Worobec   United States
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Byron, I wonder if back then they realized that the GMC would continue to
sag just like the clay model as evidenced by the entry door issues

Thanks

Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA


----- Original Message -----
From: "Byron Songer" <bsonger@songerconsulting.net>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 2:01 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] Photos of ES Rally Posted


I finally got around to getting two dozen photos of the Eastern States rally
in Milan, MI posted. They can be seen at --
http://www.gmceast.com/rallies/rallies/fall11_photos.html

The rally was held the weekend after the GMCMI convention in Goshen back in
September.

Paul Deesen, who was a designer at GM, gave an interesting presentation on
his work as a design artist. Paul worked on concept sketches of the GMC
MotorHome and also did designs on Buicks, Chevrolets, Pontiacs, and a few
Oldsmobiles before retiring nearly 15 years ago.

Paul also told us that the full-sized clay model of the TZE was the largest
that had ever been done at GMC. He said they had to clean out a nearly
vacant room so they'd have space. Since it was the largest clay model they
had done they didn't know how the clay would behave. The designers/sculptors
found that they had to insert support rods into the form to keep the clay
from sagging. Of course, they made this discovery after working one day and
coming in the next morning to see it drooping out of shape.

With his cooperation, he's sent me a DVD of several scanned images of his
drawings. The size of the images are too large to get into a slide show for
viewing in a browser so they'll all have to be resized. It's my goal to get
about 48 of them posted to a slide show in the next week or so. You'll enjoy
them, I'm sure.

--

Byron Songer
Louisville, KY
http://www.gmceast.com

Sights to see and places to stay ­
Find or submit a
GMCer recommendation
http://www.gmceast.com/travel


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Re: [GMCnet] Photos of ES Rally Posted [message #152106 is a reply to message #152075] Wed, 07 December 2011 20:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Byron Songer is currently offline  Byron Songer   United States
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Back in 78 a ten-year-old care was "old". Today it isn't. I'm quite sure
no one gave thought to middle-aged spread on the GMC because they probably
didn't think it would ready "middle age".

Byron

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Worobec <gtw5@earthlink.net>
Reply-To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 14:20:40 -0800
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Photos of ES Rally Posted

>Byron, I wonder if back then they realized that the GMC would continue to
>sag just like the clay model as evidenced by the entry door issues
>
>Thanks
>
>Gary and Joanne Worobec
>1973 GMC Glacier
>Anza, CA
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Byron Songer" <bsonger@songerconsulting.net>
>To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 2:01 PM
>Subject: [GMCnet] Photos of ES Rally Posted
>
>
>I finally got around to getting two dozen photos of the Eastern States
>rally
>in Milan, MI posted. They can be seen at --
>http://www.gmceast.com/rallies/rallies/fall11_photos.html
>
>The rally was held the weekend after the GMCMI convention in Goshen back
>in
>September.
>
>Paul Deesen, who was a designer at GM, gave an interesting presentation on
>his work as a design artist. Paul worked on concept sketches of the GMC
>MotorHome and also did designs on Buicks, Chevrolets, Pontiacs, and a few
>Oldsmobiles before retiring nearly 15 years ago.
>
>Paul also told us that the full-sized clay model of the TZE was the
>largest
>that had ever been done at GMC. He said they had to clean out a nearly
>vacant room so they'd have space. Since it was the largest clay model they
>had done they didn't know how the clay would behave. The
>designers/sculptors
>found that they had to insert support rods into the form to keep the clay
>from sagging. Of course, they made this discovery after working one day
>and
>coming in the next morning to see it drooping out of shape.
>
>With his cooperation, he's sent me a DVD of several scanned images of his
>drawings. The size of the images are too large to get into a slide show
>for
>viewing in a browser so they'll all have to be resized. It's my goal to
>get
>about 48 of them posted to a slide show in the next week or so. You'll
>enjoy
>them, I'm sure.
>
>--
>
>Byron Songer
>Louisville, KY
>http://www.gmceast.com
>
>Sights to see and places to stay ¡©
>Find or submit a
>GMCer recommendation
>http://www.gmceast.com/travel
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Photos of ES Rally Posted [message #152161 is a reply to message #152074] Thu, 08 December 2011 11:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SergeL is currently offline  SergeL   United States
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Byron Songer <bsonger@songerconsulting.net> wrote:

>Back in 78 a ten-year-old care was "old". Today it isn't. I'm quite sure
>no one gave thought to middle-aged spread on the GMC because they probably
>didn't think it would ready "middle age".
>
>Byron
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Gary Worobec <gtw5@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
>Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 14:20:40 -0800
>To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
>Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Photos of ES Rally Posted
>
>>Byron, I wonder if back then they realized that the GMC would continue to
>>sag just like the clay model as evidenced by the entry door issues
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Gary and Joanne Worobec
>>1973 GMC Glacier
>>Anza, CA
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Byron Songer" <bsonger@songerconsulting.net>
>>To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
>>Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 2:01 PM
>>Subject: [GMCnet] Photos of ES Rally Posted
>>
>>
>>I finally got around to getting two dozen photos of the Eastern States
>>rally
>>in Milan, MI posted. They can be seen at --
>>http://www.gmceast.com/rallies/rallies/fall11_photos.html
>>
>>The rally was held the weekend after the GMCMI convention in Goshen back
>>in
>>September.
>>
>>Paul Deesen, who was a designer at GM, gave an interesting presentation on
>>his work as a design artist. Paul worked on concept sketches of the GMC
>>MotorHome and also did designs on Buicks, Chevrolets, Pontiacs, and a few
>>Oldsmobiles before retiring nearly 15 years ago.
>>
>>Paul also told us that the full-sized clay model of the TZE was the
>>largest
>>that had ever been done at GMC. He said they had to clean out a nearly
>>vacant room so they'd have space. Since it was the largest clay model they
>>had done they didn't know how the clay would behave. The
>>designers/sculptors
>>found that they had to insert support rods into the form to keep the clay
>>from sagging. Of course, they made this discovery after working one day
>>and
>>coming in the next morning to see it drooping out of shape.
>>
>>With his cooperation, he's sent me a DVD of several scanned images of his
>>drawings. The size of the images are too large to get into a slide show
>>for
>>viewing in a browser so they'll all have to be resized. It's my goal to
>>get
>>about 48 of them posted to a slide show in the next week or so. You'll
>>enjoy
>>them, I'm sure.
>>
>>--
>>
>>Byron Songer
>>Louisville, KY
>>http://www.gmceast.com
>>
>>Sights to see and places to stay ­
>>Find or submit a
>>GMCer recommendation
>>http://www.gmceast.com/travel
>>
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Photos of ES Rally Posted [message #152186 is a reply to message #152074] Thu, 08 December 2011 17:10 Go to previous message
nchapekis is currently offline  nchapekis   United States
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Shoot Byron. I completely forgot to send you the pictures I took. I will try to get them to you shortly to add to what you already have.

Nick Chapekis
Ypsilanti, MI
former owner - 78 Kingsley
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