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[GMCnet] No start battery [message #151472] Sat, 03 December 2011 18:36 Go to next message
Dolph Santorine is currently offline  Dolph Santorine   United States
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I took out the start battery, but the horn (and the running electrics) all work.

I disconnected the house battery from the combiner, and I still have the same problem.

Suggestions on where to look for something the PO did that crosses the two?

Thanks.

Dolph
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Re: [GMCnet] No start battery [message #151475 is a reply to message #151472] Sat, 03 December 2011 18:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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1. The boost relay may be stuck, turned on, or bypassed.

2. If you still have the isolator, it can be shorted -- though not likely.

3. 'Most anywhere.

Ken H.



On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Dolph Santorine wrote:

> I took out the start battery, but the horn (and the running electrics) all
> work.
>
> I disconnected the house battery from the combiner, and I still have the
> same problem.
>
> Suggestions on where to look for something the PO did that crosses the two?
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] No start battery [message #151478 is a reply to message #151475] Sat, 03 December 2011 19:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dolph Santorine is currently offline  Dolph Santorine   United States
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You know I was afraid of the last one.... in search of splices in the morning (drat).

Dolph


On Dec 3, 2011, at 7:58 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:

> 1. The boost relay may be stuck, turned on, or bypassed.
>
> 2. If you still have the isolator, it can be shorted -- though not likely.
>
> 3. 'Most anywhere.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Dolph Santorine wrote:
>
>> I took out the start battery, but the horn (and the running electrics) all
>> work.
>>
>> I disconnected the house battery from the combiner, and I still have the
>> same problem.
>>
>> Suggestions on where to look for something the PO did that crosses the two?
>>
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] No start battery [message #151485 is a reply to message #151472] Sat, 03 December 2011 20:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dolph Santorine wrote on Sat, 03 December 2011 19:36

I took out the start battery, but the horn (and the running electrics) all work.

I disconnected the house battery from the combiner, and I still have the same problem.

Suggestions on where to look for something the PO did that crosses the two?

Thanks.

Dolph


Dolph,

I do not remember what version/vintage your coach is. That might help - then again, maybe not. . .

Are you saying that things work with Both Batteries Disconnected? Hummm....

You have a combiner and are you on shore power?
The converter will set the combiner to connect both systems and the then the converter will power both, but not enough to crank.

And yes, Isolators Can Go Solid (rare, but it happens).

Good Luck Guy

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] No start battery [message #151496 is a reply to message #151472] Sat, 03 December 2011 22:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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You did not state if the house things also work like the overhead lights, furnace, etc. If they do ,then try to start it. What happened?



Ken Burton - N9KB
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Re: [GMCnet] No start battery [message #151499 is a reply to message #151496] Sat, 03 December 2011 22:30 Go to previous message
Dolph Santorine is currently offline  Dolph Santorine   United States
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The house lights work fine. There is not enough current coming over to do more than trip the solenoid, which it does admirably.

I'm going to remove the isolator tomorrow morning and see where that takes me (I have a spare, and a combiner... but I'm not messing with the system until it looks like it's working correctly, and I don't believe it is doing what it should.

I started looking at the drawings and it appears that if it's not the isolator or a bad boost relay (I don't think the latter, although my Ohmmeter will tell), I should be able to start pulling fuses and at least isolating which circuit is to blame.



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On Dec 3, 2011, at 11:19 PM, Ken Burton wrote:

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> You did not state if the house things also work like the overhead lights, furnace, etc. If they do ,then try to start it. What happened?
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