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Bruce Hart is currently offline  Bruce Hart   United States
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When I go to shut off the motor, the motor continues to run on. Is this a timing problem? Octane grade problem?
Any ideas?





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Re: Starting on our Adventure form Minneapolis to Colorado [message #150409 is a reply to message #150403] Tue, 22 November 2011 07:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bruce Hart wrote on Tue, 22 November 2011 07:46

When I go to shut off the motor, the motor continues to run on. Is this a timing problem? Octane grade problem?
Any ideas?
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Bruce,

It is most often a carbon build up problem. Take her out on the road where she was meant to be. Run a couple of hours. If the problem continues, check the idle mixture.

These are general answers, there are others here that know the 455 much better than I do, but this sure works on mine.

Matt


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Re: Starting on our Adventure form Minneapolis to Colorado [message #150411 is a reply to message #150409] Tue, 22 November 2011 07:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It might also be the idle set too high.

A temporary solution is to turn if off in drive and after the engine stops put it in Park.



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Re: Starting on our Adventure form Minneapolis to Colorado [message #150412 is a reply to message #150409] Tue, 22 November 2011 07:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Could be cheap gas.
Shut it off while still in gear then place in Park.
Re: Starting on our Adventure form Minneapolis to Colorado [message #150414 is a reply to message #150412] Tue, 22 November 2011 08:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   Canada
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Harry wrote on Tue, 22 November 2011 07:50

Could be cheap gas.
Shut it off while still in gear then place in Park.


There is no such thing as "cheap" gas anymore.


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Re: Starting on our Adventure form Minneapolis to Colorado [message #150415 is a reply to message #150403] Tue, 22 November 2011 08:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Embarrassing. I replied to the wrong thread. Just editing out what I had written as I cut and pasted the original reply into the correct thread.

Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL

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Ken Burton wrote on Tue, 22 November 2011 07:03

Harry wrote on Tue, 22 November 2011 07:50

Could be cheap gas.
Shut it off while still in gear then place in Park.


There is no such thing as "cheap" gas anymore.


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Re: [GMCnet] Starting on our Adventure form Minneapolis to Colorado [message #150515 is a reply to message #150409] Wed, 23 November 2011 10:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Whew, we made it home, What was suppose to be a 14 hour trip turned into
46 houirs. detail after I get some sleep!!

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 6:24 AM, Matt Colie <matt7323tze@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Bruce Hart wrote on Tue, 22 November 2011 07:46
> > When I go to shut off the motor, the motor continues to run on. Is this
> a timing problem? Octane grade problem?
> > Any ideas?
> > 0
>
> Bruce,
>
> It is most often a carbon build up problem. Take her out on the road
> where she was meant to be. Run a couple of hours. If the problem
> continues, check the idle mixture.
>
> These are general answers, there are others here that know the 455 much
> better than I do, but this sure works on mine.
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie
> '73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air) Just about as stock as you will
> find
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: [GMCnet] Starting on our Adventure form Minneapolis to Colorado [message #150518 is a reply to message #150515] Wed, 23 November 2011 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bruce, the most common cause of run on after the ignition is turned off
(and the engine is not overheated) is that the idle speed is set too high.
If you don't want to reduce the idle speed, then leave the coach in gear
with your foot on the brake, and then turn off the engine. If it still runs
on, recheck your tune up specs, and verify that your engine is still
correct according to the specs. Pay particular attention to ignition
timing, and idle speed. Be sure to disconnect the vacuum line from the
distributor, and plug the part that goes back to the engine with a golf tee
or similar object. Also verify that you do not have any other vacuum hoses
that leak. Last, and certainly not least, verify that your carb base gasket
is not leaking. I spray a little WD--40 around the carb base with the
engine running. If idle speed increases, you have a leaking gasket or a
warped carb throttle body.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Bruce Hart <hartsgmc@gmail.com> wrote:

> Whew, we made it home, What was suppose to be a 14 hour trip turned into
> 46 houirs. detail after I get some sleep!!
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 6:24 AM, Matt Colie <matt7323tze@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Bruce Hart wrote on Tue, 22 November 2011 07:46
> > > When I go to shut off the motor, the motor continues to run on. Is
> this
> > a timing problem? Octane grade problem?
> > > Any ideas?
> > > 0
> >
> > Bruce,
> >
> > It is most often a carbon build up problem. Take her out on the road
> > where she was meant to be. Run a couple of hours. If the problem
> > continues, check the idle mixture.
> >
> > These are general answers, there are others here that know the 455 much
> > better than I do, but this sure works on mine.
> >
> > Matt
> > --
> > Matt & Mary Colie
> > '73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air) Just about as stock as you
> will
> > find
> > SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
> > _______________________________________________
> > GMCnet mailing list
> > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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> >
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Starting on our Adventure form Minneapolis to Colorado [message #150536 is a reply to message #150518] Wed, 23 November 2011 14:29 Go to previous message
Bruce Hart is currently offline  Bruce Hart   United States
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Thanks everyone for you post.
Yes the idle is set high, probably a lot of carbon build up as well with a
little bit of blow-by as well. Now that I am home I will give it a tune-up.

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 10:10 AM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:

> Bruce, the most common cause of run on after the ignition is turned off
> (and the engine is not overheated) is that the idle speed is set too high.
> If you don't want to reduce the idle speed, then leave the coach in gear
> with your foot on the brake, and then turn off the engine. If it still runs
> on, recheck your tune up specs, and verify that your engine is still
> correct according to the specs. Pay particular attention to ignition
> timing, and idle speed. Be sure to disconnect the vacuum line from the
> distributor, and plug the part that goes back to the engine with a golf tee
> or similar object. Also verify that you do not have any other vacuum hoses
> that leak. Last, and certainly not least, verify that your carb base gasket
> is not leaking. I spray a little WD--40 around the carb base with the
> engine running. If idle speed increases, you have a leaking gasket or a
> warped carb throttle body.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, OR
> 78 GMC Royale 403
>
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Bruce Hart <hartsgmc@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Whew, we made it home, What was suppose to be a 14 hour trip turned into
> > 46 houirs. detail after I get some sleep!!
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 6:24 AM, Matt Colie <matt7323tze@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bruce Hart wrote on Tue, 22 November 2011 07:46
> > > > When I go to shut off the motor, the motor continues to run on. Is
> > this
> > > a timing problem? Octane grade problem?
> > > > Any ideas?
> > > > 0
> > >
> > > Bruce,
> > >
> > > It is most often a carbon build up problem. Take her out on the road
> > > where she was meant to be. Run a couple of hours. If the problem
> > > continues, check the idle mixture.
> > >
> > > These are general answers, there are others here that know the 455 much
> > > better than I do, but this sure works on mine.
> > >
> > > Matt
> > > --
> > > Matt & Mary Colie
> > > '73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air) Just about as stock as you
> > will
> > > find
> > > SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > GMCnet mailing list
> > > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> > > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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