propane tank [message #150372] |
Mon, 21 November 2011 18:41 |
Ross
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Took my royale in this morning for the propane test required by my ins. co. They wouldn't pass the the Brummer Engineering tank because it doesn't have a Candian Registion Number [CRN] on it. Only required in Canada not the US.
I got in touch with Manchester Tank which has warehouse in Tilsonburg On. and spoke with the manager who confirmed that CRN is required in Canada. He also told me that they had purchased Brummer a number of years ago. He wants me to take a photo of it to see if he can match it up.
My question is..did any other Canadian GMC owners have this problem or is it just me?
Also has anyone gone to an all electric coach?
Ross
Ross Hallman
78 Royale
Baden, On
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Re: [GMCnet] propane tank [message #150377 is a reply to message #150372] |
Mon, 21 November 2011 19:27 |
Dwayne
Messages: 418 Registered: October 2007 Location: White Rock BC
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Our Social Government Insurance only required me to get the official weight
of the Coach. No inspections at all.
I pay around 1400 per annum for insurance.
Dwayne Jacobson
White Rock
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Ross Hallman <rhallman@rogers.com> wrote:
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Re: [GMCnet] propane tank [message #150382 is a reply to message #150377] |
Mon, 21 November 2011 20:33 |
davidlive
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Just wondering and by no way attempting to hijack a thread, but what size are the propane tanks in these motorhomes ?
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Re: propane tank [message #150384 is a reply to message #150372] |
Mon, 21 November 2011 20:54 |
jhb1
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Ross wrote on Mon, 21 November 2011 19:41 | Took my royale in this morning for the propane test required by my ins. co. They wouldn't pass the the Brummer Engineering tank because it doesn't have a Candian Registion Number [CRN] on it. Only required in Canada not the US.
I got in touch with Manchester Tank which has warehouse in Tilsonburg On. and spoke with the manager who confirmed that CRN is required in Canada. He also told me that they had purchased Brummer a number of years ago. He wants me to take a photo of it to see if he can match it up.
My question is..did any other Canadian GMC owners have this problem or is it just me?
Also has anyone gone to an all electric coach?
Ross
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I brought one here to Quebec and they questioned the tank had to show them the ASME label on the side of the tank. All was good after that. Our safety inspections are done by govt authorized shops that are inspected frequently to keep them honest. Having lived in Ontario I can tell you the Quebec test is a lot tougher.
John H. Bell
77 Royale; QuadBag,Manny OneTon,Honda EV4010, FITech
Montreal Qc.
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Re: [GMCnet] propane tank [message #150405 is a reply to message #150404] |
Tue, 22 November 2011 06:53 |
Dolph Santorine
Messages: 1236 Registered: April 2011 Location: Wheeling, WV
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I've toyed with pulling the tank and putting in a couple of "swap" 20lb cylinders, mostly to recoup the space for tools and the like.
I've seen some of that done here (if I recall it was done to accommodate regulations down under)
I was looking at the bits and pieces to do this at the local RV dealer, and he commented that it might not be "legal".
I understand that compartment is out of the living area, so I thought it's OK.
Then again, thinking and government regulations are generally mutually exclusive.
No oven, so we use Propane for cooktop, and sporadic heating.
Profane comes from the drivers seat, or under the coach. Different gas, about the same BTU's.
Thoughts?
Dolph
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Re: propane tank [message #150416 is a reply to message #150372] |
Tue, 22 November 2011 08:21 |
jknezek
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Seems like the easiest thing to do might be to find a different inspector.
On a different note, my coach has no propane. We have an electric cooktop, the original electric water heater, the original refrigerator, and a single 15K air conditioner. We bought the coach in FL, so we didn't need the furnace. Since then we've moved to Alabama. I reinsulated the coach when we redid the headliner, side panels and carpeting (regular carpet pad works pretty good for sound and temp).
I've been camping where the nights have dipped to as low as the high 20s and we use a small, cheap electric space heater. Have never had a problem keeping it warm inside with two adults, a large dog, a parrot, and a small child. We also use a heat strip on the AC when the outside temp is in the 40s and 50s. Haven't missed the furnace.
However, if we lived somewhere where we were consistently camping in the 30s during the day, I'd want the furnace. Otherwise I really need 50 amps to run the space heater, water heater, fridge and lights. I can't run all of those and the electric cooktop or microwave at the same time, so we do some juggling if the space heater is on during cook times.
I've debated going back to a bbq can and putting in a gas range, on-demand hot water heater, 3 way fridge, and one of the non-blower heaters. Every time I think of the work and money involved I try and think of how often we actually miss propane. Since we don't dry camp and live in the South, I'm never able to push it through as a good idea.
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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Re: propane tank [message #150428 is a reply to message #150416] |
Tue, 22 November 2011 09:54 |
1275gtsport
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no issues or even a question about the propane tank here in NB. (just brought it in in July) the tank is ASME and unless really rusted there is no issues. I take it to a "real" propane dealer to have it filled as the Irving pump jockey said they had no way of filling it...or he had only ever done 20 lb tanks.
in fact getting the coach into my name was just a bit easier then simply renewing an existing car already in my name. when we crossed the border the only reason anybody even went to look at it was to understand why I would purchase a 1977 Motorhome. paid federal portion of tax and was on my way. regular MVI then to DMV to transfer into my name (and pay prov tax). I did have to pay a tax for having air conditioning both dash and roof air. even though the dash air does not work.
My insurance company has asked no questions. to them it is just a truck.
Adam Raeburn
Rothesay, NB
1976 Austin Mini
1977 GMC Palm Beach
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Re: propane tank [message #150555 is a reply to message #150372] |
Wed, 23 November 2011 19:08 |
Ross
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I would like to thank Bruce Hislop who called me at home and gave me the name of the rv dealer he used. I called the dealer and they had an opening yesterday at 4pm. All they were concerned about were leaks not the tank registration number.
Now the bad news..The stove, furnace and water heater had leaks that couldn't easily be repaired so we capped the appliance lines. They did a pressure test and still had leak. Well wouldnt you know it, the tank had a leak in the shut off value. We ended up pulling the tank and replacing it with a horizontal 20# tank.
The dealer spent 6 hours repairing and replacing parts and only charged me for 3 hours. I will be back there next spring to get everything ship shape. The tech told me I was very lucky that nothing serious happened with all these leaks. I guess the sniffer isn't working.
The good news...I have the propane clearance cert. required by my ins. co.
CHEERS....Bruce
Ross Hallman
78 Royale
Baden, On
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Re: propane tank [message #150599 is a reply to message #150372] |
Thu, 24 November 2011 11:58 |
kingd
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Ross, over the winter you may want to try to find out on your own using compressed air or nitrogen where the appliances are leaking. I had a leaky valve on the stove top on the 1976 SOB and the valve was still available at the local RV shop. Also I've seen it posted somewhere on the internet that the leaky valves can be repaired by lapping with very fine compound(like valve lapping paste only finer) I bought I new valve.
DAVE KING
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Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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