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Wed, 16 November 2011 17:29  |
Kingsley Coach
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Netters
There is someone who has a GMC and tows an enclosed trailer behind it....he
also carries kayaks on the top of the trailer.
While the name escapes me, the question remains...
How much overhang of a kayak or canoe or lumber for example is permitted by
law? Does anyone have any personal experience of perhaps being pulled over
with a pick-up that had lumber overhanging the tailgate by a few feet. Is
there a written law somewhere ( and I'm sure there is somewhere) about the
max ..?
In this same scenario here in NS at least locally, if the lumber yard ties
a scrap of red plastic to the tip of the overhang it seems to absolve the
driver of any responsibility, even if the overhang is anywhere from 4 to 40
feet <g>
I await input, and thank you in advance.
Mike in NS
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1977 Kingsley 26-11
1977 Eleganza II 26-3
Antigonish, NS
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| Re: [GMCnet] Overhang ..... [message #149822 is a reply to message #149816] |
Wed, 16 November 2011 19:22  |
SThornbg
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Mike,
A few years ago I hauled a 15 foot row boat in the 6 1/2 foot bed of my pickup across Missouri, Iowa, Illinois and Indiana with a red shop towel tied in the eye on the bow of the boat. I passed and was passed by a number of police cars and they apparently were fine with the configuration.
Steve T.
South Bend, IN
'77 PB 455 "Tinker Toy"
Steve Thornburg
South Bend, IN
77 exPB 455 "Tinker Toy"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Overhang ..... [message #149844 is a reply to message #149810] |
Wed, 16 November 2011 21:30 |
Carl S.
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I'm sure the law varies from state to state, but here in Arizona, you can have something hanging off the back as much as four feet, without a flag, and up to six feet with a flag.
About ten years ago I was hauling a load of rented scaffolding back to the rental yard, from a job site. I had a large stack of 16' planks on my F-600 flatbed (14' bed with a 28" wide box mounted across the front) and they were hanging out the back about 4'-4". I was only going about five miles across town and wasn't too concerned. About half a mile from the job, a motorcycle cop pulled up next to me and said "put a flag on it!" I said "yes SIR!" and pulled over and tacked a red rag to the back. He must have been too busy to give me a ticket.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Overhang ..... [message #149865 is a reply to message #149844] |
Thu, 17 November 2011 03:36 |
Ken Burton
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The law here is anything over 3 feet requires a red flag or light if operated at night. Other than that the vehicle (with load) must meet normal length and width restrictions. If the load exceeds those numbers it requires an escort vehicle, signs, and can only be operated during the daylight hours. There is an extra length exception for car haulers.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Overhang ..... [message #149866 is a reply to message #149810] |
Thu, 17 November 2011 03:48 |
Richard Brown
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In the part of Texas I live in I see semi trucks hauling tree-length logs and electric company/telephone company trucks hauling utility poles on trailers all the time with a red flag stapled on the longest one. I have also seen utility trailers with a battery-powered flashing red strobe attached. I assume that as long as the majority of the protrusion is supported on the trailer or hauling vehicle & the load is properly secured that there are few restrictions. Most police & highway patrols seem to feel that if the load is being hauled in a safe & reasonable fashion & the protrusion is properly visible to anyone behind the load that it's legal. I may be wrong, however....
Richard & Carol Brown
1974 Eleganza SE
"DILLIGAF"
Lindale, Tx. 75771
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| Re: [GMCnet] Overhang ..... [message #149872 is a reply to message #149810] |
Thu, 17 November 2011 07:55 |
lqqkatjon
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I have hauled lots of stuff in very crazy manners all over a few states. (I even towed my GMC home on a trailer that might have been pushing the weight limit a bit)
I also have been stopped with some of those loads. the rule of thumb that I found over the years, is to use common sense, and do the best job you can. and they have always let me go. And there was some times I think they should not have let me go!
make sure things will not fall off, and the red flag is a good idea. Also working lights is a biggy.
The other advice, is that rule of thumb of getting by with a "please get this off my road, or out of my county". does not work in company vehicles. If they tie it to a business, I would say expect to get ticketed in most cases if you are doing something you clearly know you should not be doing. So when stopped, play dumb!
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
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St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Overhang ..... [message #149880 is a reply to message #149810] |
Thu, 17 November 2011 09:08 |
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Matt Colie
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| Kingsley Coach wrote on Wed, 16 November 2011 18:29 |
Netters
There is someone who has a GMC and tows an enclosed trailer behind it....he also carries kayaks on the top of the trailer.
While the name escapes me, the question remains...
How much overhang of a kayak or canoe or lumber for example is permitted by law? Does anyone have any personal experience of perhaps being pulled over with a pick-up that had lumber overhanging the tailgate by a few feet. Is there a written law somewhere ( and I'm sure there is somewhere) about the max ..?
In this same scenario here in NS at least locally, if the lumber yard ties a scrap of red plastic to the tip of the overhang it seems to absolve the driver of any responsibility, even if the overhang is anywhere from 4 to 40 feet <g>
I await input, and thank you in advance.
Mike in NS
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Michael Beaton
1977 Kingsley 26-11
1977 Eleganza II 26-3
Antigonish, NS
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Mike,
After reading the entire thread, I didn't see an actual answer to your question, so...
In the US DOT Code is 4 Feet.
What the code actually says is that the taillights or reference -red flag -(the red reflectors in your taillights count here) must be within four feet of the extreme ends of the assembled vehicle and payload.
We used to keep a laminated card with this code and several different states as well in my father's truck when we were hauling spars to anyplace with water enough to float a sloop. We also had "lights on a stick" that we could tie to the ends of the spar. Though not required by any code we could find, the one for the rear had arrows and a stop light. We would also hang a largish red flag on the rear in day time, even with the red lights.
I don't have the references anymore, but I bet some searching on the web could find more.
One time following truck got stopped with the foot (big heavy bottom end) of the of a 30+ foot laminated mast over his hood, he broke the plastic lights with his windshield. That was when we started with the flag. (Think about what can happen is someone can and does run into the over-hanging load.)
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] Overhang ..... [message #149881 is a reply to message #149880] |
Thu, 17 November 2011 09:14 |
Kingsley Coach
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Gentlemen
Thanks to all who replied, I think I have the answer I'm looking for...<g>
I'll be ok !!
Gene, I can't put them on top, I was planning on keeping extra beer up
there!
Mike in NS
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Matt Colie <matt7323tze@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Kingsley Coach wrote on Wed, 16 November 2011 18:29
> > Netters
> >
> > There is someone who has a GMC and tows an enclosed trailer behind
> it....he also carries kayaks on the top of the trailer.
> > While the name escapes me, the question remains...
> > How much overhang of a kayak or canoe or lumber for example is permitted
> by law? Does anyone have any personal experience of perhaps being pulled
> over with a pick-up that had lumber overhanging the tailgate by a few feet.
> Is there a written law somewhere ( and I'm sure there is somewhere) about
> the max ..?
> > In this same scenario here in NS at least locally, if the lumber yard
> ties a scrap of red plastic to the tip of the overhang it seems to absolve
> the driver of any responsibility, even if the overhang is anywhere from 4
> to 40 feet <g>
> >
> > I await input, and thank you in advance.
> >
> > Mike in NS
> >
> > --
> > Michael Beaton
> > 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> > 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> > Antigonish, NS
>
> Mike,
>
> After reading the entire thread, I didn't see an actual answer to your
> question, so...
>
> In the US DOT Code is 4 Feet.
>
> What the code actually says is that the taillights or reference -red flag
> -(the red reflectors in your taillights count here) must be within four
> feet of the extreme ends of the assembled vehicle and payload.
>
> We used to keep a laminated card with this code and several different
> states as well in my father's truck when we were hauling spars to anyplace
> with water enough to float a sloop. We also had "lights on a stick" that
> we could tie to the ends of the spar. Though not required by any code we
> could find, the one for the rear had arrows and a stop light. We would
> also hang a largish red flag on the rear in day time, even with the red
> lights.
>
> I don't have the references anymore, but I bet some searching on the web
> could find more.
>
> One time following truck got stopped with the foot (big heavy bottom end)
> of the of a 30+ foot laminated mast over his hood, he broke the plastic
> lights with his windshield. That was when we started with the flag.
> (Think about what can happen is someone can and does run into the
> over-hanging load.)
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie
> '73 Glacier 23 Chaumière (say show-me-air) Just about as stock as you will
> find
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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1977 Eleganza II 26-3
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