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[GMCnet] To limited slip or not to limited slip [message #147006] Tue, 18 October 2011 22:13 Go to next message
Dolph Santorine is currently offline  Dolph Santorine   United States
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Ok, I know it's been covered before. I'm a blacktop highway kinda GMC'er. I don't mind running in the winter (but not the snow).

It's time to order the gears (3.70). Do I go limited slip?

Your input is appreciated!

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Re: [GMCnet] To limited slip or not to limited slip [message #147033 is a reply to message #147006] Wed, 19 October 2011 07:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dolph Santorine wrote on Tue, 18 October 2011 23:13

Ok, I know it's been covered before. I'm a blacktop highway kinda GMC'er. I don't mind running in the winter (but not the snow).

It's time to order the gears (3.70). Do I go limited slip?

Your input is appreciated!

Dolph Santorine

Dolph,

You might never be planning to go of a paved road. You might have no plans to ever run the coach trough snow. Even if you are retired (which you are not), you may hit time pressures that cause you to consider running in less than optimal road conditions.

Where were you parked at Goshen? We were on grass. We have been parked where we had to transit grass slopes. At the Balloon Fiesta, we were parked on clay - and it rained overnight.

It just serendipity, but I ended up with a limited slip in one of my front wheel drive cars (long story), but it makes a significant difference on anything other the dry clean pavement.

If I were able to afford a final drive upgrade, I would really like to have the limited slip version. I don't see any downside other than the first cost.

That is just my opinion, you know what they say about opinions.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] To limited slip or not to limited slip [message #147036 is a reply to message #147006] Wed, 19 October 2011 08:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dolph Santorine wrote on Tue, 18 October 2011 22:13

Ok, I know it's been covered before. I'm a blacktop highway kinda GMC'er. I don't mind running in the winter (but not the snow).

It's time to order the gears (3.70). Do I go limited slip?

Your input is appreciated!

Dolph Santorine

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Most of our GMC'ing is blacktop driving....but ya know, ya can't always predict where you are going to park. This fall while in Porcupine Mountain State park, we found our selves parked on grass just off of lake Superior. A hard rain several days previous, and a wet dew on the morning we left created a real problem for getting out of our flat camping spot. Sure could have used the LS. If you are changing FD's...now is the time to do the LS. JMHO


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Re: [GMCnet] To limited slip or not to limited slip [message #147059 is a reply to message #147036] Wed, 19 October 2011 13:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dolph,

I think Matt nailed it in his reply. I went with the limited slip, mostly because of my annual trip to the Imperial Sand Dunes, at Thanksgiving. I tow my '53 Jeep on a trailer, with a weight approaching 4,000#, several miles back a sandy, gravel road, and park in the dirt, where it can be somewhat soft. I hope getting stuck there is a thing of the past (I'll find out next month).

Last year, on the way from a trip from Salt Lake City to Las Vegas, for the GMCWS Rally, we took a side trip through Valley of Fire State Park, in Southern Nevada. We stopped at an unpaved roadside pull-out that had an incline on the approach back to the road. That was before I installed the 3.07 LSD, and I almost didn't make it up the incline. It was because a car came around the curve just as I was about to pull out, and I had to stop, loosing my momentum. I the limited slip would have helped in that situation.

I haven't used the new final drive enough to know how much of a difference it makes, but I'm confident that it will help in low traction situations. You will have to asses your situation, but if you can afford the extra cost. I don't see a down side.


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Re: [GMCnet] To limited slip or not to limited slip [message #147080 is a reply to message #147059] Wed, 19 October 2011 15:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have a question regarding the limited slip.

Does the limited slip differential have any reduction
on normal torque steer experienced during acceleration
or climbing a hill?

Maybe someone with experience will chime in

larry whisler
Re: [GMCnet] To limited slip or not to limited slip [message #147090 is a reply to message #147080] Wed, 19 October 2011 17:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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larry.whisler wrote on Wed, 19 October 2011 13:12

I have a question regarding the limited slip.

Does the limited slip differential have any reduction
on normal torque steer experienced during acceleration
or climbing a hill?

Maybe someone with experience will chime in

larry whisler




Larry,

The only effect I have noticed with the limited slip, and I may be imagining it, is a little bit of torque steer when accelerating out of a hard turn. This seems especially true when pulling out from a stop sign. It is barely noticeable and just serves to show that the LS is working. I have only had the new final drive in since January, and haven't driven in any slippery conditions since, so I don't really have enough experience with it to say how the handling characteristics have been affected as of yet.


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: [GMCnet] To limited slip or not to limited slip [message #147338 is a reply to message #147090] Fri, 21 October 2011 22:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well.....

When Tom Phipps stopped by our place on his way to Elkhart, we hatched a plan on the best way to change the radiator.

The plan was to put the front walls on the retaining wall in front of our other garage.

It worked great, and the aluminum radiator is in.... but, getting there required a lot of sand and gravel... and underscores the need for the limited slip.

I never thought that a shovel would be required equipment for a radiator change.

I'll be ordering a final drive with limited slip one Monday.

Thank you all for your input.

Dolph




On Oct 19, 2011, at 6:10 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:

>
>
> larry.whisler wrote on Wed, 19 October 2011 13:12
>> I have a question regarding the limited slip.
>>
>> Does the limited slip differential have any reduction
>> on normal torque steer experienced during acceleration
>> or climbing a hill?
>>
>> Maybe someone with experience will chime in
>>
>> larry whisler
>
>
>
> Larry,
>
> The only effect I have noticed with the limited slip, and I may be imagining it, is a little bit of torque steer when accelerating out of a hard turn. This seems especially true when pulling out from a stop sign. It is barely noticeable and just serves to show that the LS is working. I have only had the new final drive in since January, and haven't driven in any slippery conditions since, so I don't really have enough experience with it to say how the handling characteristics have been affected as of yet.
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Re: [GMCnet] To limited slip or not to limited slip [message #147339 is a reply to message #147338] Fri, 21 October 2011 22:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We have a program where you will only pay for the Limited slip option
when you order the 3.55/3.70/4.10.
Should you already have one of our gears, we will send you a new unit
with the same ratio and the limited slip unit, you'll return the unit
and be charged $150 labor and freight both ways.
We now ship from Ohio and California on the finals to save on freight.
Should you happen to have a 3,42, we can do the same, but will+ need
to charge $200 labor and depends on availability of the 3.42 in our
inventory.We can also have you send in your unit and we will do a 48
hour turn around. Naturally you'll be paying for freight both ways.



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Re: [GMCnet] To limited slip or not to limited slip [message #147347 is a reply to message #147339] Fri, 21 October 2011 23:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jimk wrote on Fri, 21 October 2011 22:43

We have a program where you will only pay for the Limited slip option
when you order the 3.55/3.70/4.10.
Should you already have one of our gears, we will send you a new unit
with the same ratio and the limited slip unit, you'll return the unit
and be charged $150 labor and freight both ways.
We now ship from Ohio and California on the finals to save on freight.
Should you happen to have a 3,42, we can do the same, but will+ need
to charge $200 labor and depends on availability of the 3.42 in our
inventory.We can also have you send in your unit and we will do a 48
hour turn around. Naturally you'll be paying for freight both ways.



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Dang, I should have gotten one of these.
Maybe on my next trip to your shop.
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Re: [GMCnet] To limited slip or not to limited slip [message #147388 is a reply to message #147339] Sat, 22 October 2011 13:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Corrrection and clarification of our program on Limited Slip Differential:
If you currently have one of our units, we will charge $150 labor and
the $895 for the limited slip.


> Jim Kanomata
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Re: [GMCnet] To limited slip or not to limited slip [message #147426 is a reply to message #147388] Sat, 22 October 2011 19:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok, Ok;

I have a 3:70 that I got from Manny that he got in trade from you
for a rebuilt transmission. Now that I have the 1-ton frontend I can
put a set of paddle tires on it and head out to Pismo Beach, but I
would feel better with a Limited Slip in there. Can I get this deal
from you?? Just wondering...

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com> wrote:
> Corrrection and clarification of our program on Limited Slip Differential:
> If you currently have one of our units, we will charge $150 labor and
> the $895 for the limited slip.
>
>> Jim Kanomata

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Re: [GMCnet] To limited slip or not to limited slip [message #147502 is a reply to message #147006] Sun, 23 October 2011 11:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> Corrrection and clarification of our program on Limited Slip Differential:
> If you currently have one of our units, we will charge $150 labor and
> the $895 for the limited slip.

Is this an option with the 3.07 final drives? And would we have to buy a new final
drive in order to get limited slip, or can it be added to the one we have?

Just got back from visiting some friends in the southwest and don't think
we'll be able to get the beast up their steep gravel driveway without help...


thanks,
Karen
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Re: [GMCnet] To limited slip or not to limited slip [message #147509 is a reply to message #147426] Sun, 23 October 2011 12:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gary,
Yes, we can send you a new3.70 with the LSD and charge you the $895
plus the $150.
We will send you the unit first , then send back the older 3.70.
We will be requesting a $300 core deposit as we have had problems with
friends holding on to them for couple years with excuses.

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Gary Berry <duallycc@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok, Ok;
>
>   I have a 3:70 that I got from Manny that he got in trade from you
> for a rebuilt transmission. Now that I have the 1-ton frontend I can
> put a set of paddle tires on it and head out to Pismo Beach, but I
> would feel better with a Limited Slip in there. Can I get this deal
> from you?? Just wondering...
>
> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Corrrection and clarification of our program on Limited Slip Differential:
>> If you currently have one of our units, we will charge $150 labor and
>> the $895 for the limited slip.
>>
>>> Jim Kanomata
>
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Re: [GMCnet] To limited slip or not to limited slip [message #147513 is a reply to message #147502] Sun, 23 October 2011 12:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Karen,
We can drop in a LSD unit in your core, but it can be risky for us as
we will not know the condition of the core until we open it up.
We can always sell you the LSD assembly. and you can have anyone
install it and return the core later.
Also we can send you a complete rebuilt 3.07 w/LSD for $895, plus
$600. It will have all new bearings, seals and gaskets and warrenty
only on the LSD.
Knowing the 3,07 in a GMC after seeing over 3,000 units,I prefer not
to give but 2year full warrenty. Still better than from C.

On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 9:00 AM, KB <kab7@sonic.net> wrote:
>> Corrrection and clarification of our program on Limited Slip Differential:
>> If you currently have one of our units, we will charge $150 labor and
>> the $895 for the limited slip.
>
> Is this an option with the 3.07 final drives?  And would we have to buy a new final
> drive in order to get limited slip, or can it be added to the one we have?
>
> Just got back from visiting some friends in the southwest and don't think
> we'll be able to get the beast up their steep gravel driveway without help...
>
>
> thanks,
> Karen
> 1973 23'
> 1975 26'
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Re: [GMCnet] To limited slip or not to limited slip [message #147520 is a reply to message #147509] Sun, 23 October 2011 14:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim

I have your 3.55. I want to upgrade to the LSD and a 3.70.

Is that possible with the deal?



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On Oct 23, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com> wrote:

> Gary,
> Yes, we can send you a new3.70 with the LSD and charge you the $895
> plus the $150.
> We will send you the unit first , then send back the older 3.70.
> We will be requesting a $300 core deposit as we have had problems with
> friends holding on to them for couple years with excuses.
>
> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Gary Berry <duallycc@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ok, Ok;
>>
>> I have a 3:70 that I got from Manny that he got in trade from you
>> for a rebuilt transmission. Now that I have the 1-ton frontend I can
>> put a set of paddle tires on it and head out to Pismo Beach, but I
>> would feel better with a Limited Slip in there. Can I get this deal
>> from you?? Just wondering...
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Corrrection and clarification of our program on Limited Slip Differential:
>>> If you currently have one of our units, we will charge $150 labor and
>>> the $895 for the limited slip.
>>>
>>>> Jim Kanomata
>>
>> --
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>> 73 CL Stretch in Wa.
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Re: [GMCnet] To limited slip or not to limited slip [message #147529 is a reply to message #147006] Sun, 23 October 2011 15:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> Karen,
> We can drop in a LSD unit in your core, but it can be risky for us as
> we will not know the condition of the core until we open it up.
> We can always sell you the LSD assembly. and you can have anyone
> install it and return the core later.
> Also we can send you a complete rebuilt 3.07 w/LSD for $895, plus
> $600. It will have all new bearings, seals and gaskets and warrenty
> only on the LSD.
> Knowing the 3,07 in a GMC after seeing over 3,000 units,I prefer not
> to give but 2year full warrenty. Still better than from C.
>

Thanks. Sounds like another item for my (ever increasing) shopping list...

Karen
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1975 26'

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Re: [GMCnet] To limited slip or not to limited slip [message #147532 is a reply to message #147529] Sun, 23 October 2011 16:14 Go to previous message
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Dolph,
We can do the swap $895 plus $150 difference in ratio and $150 plus
freight from Ohio/CA. and a core deposit.


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