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Mon, 17 October 2011 21:24  |
CanyonLanders
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Just got my first hint that my newly acquired '73 Canyon Lands 260 (in
Bittersweet; formerly the "Orangeblossom Special") dash indicator labels
and lights format may NOT be stock/standard (shows how much I know!!;^) And
I have a problem with it that now I wonder how many others have this format
of dash indicators, and what fixes are known (confused? Me too).
The only way I can really be clear is to post a picture, so I will... and
here's a link to three of them:
(but I'll try to describe it below in case the links don't cooperate; I put
in both the full web address of all three pix, along with a "Tiny URL" for
each, just in case the long forms don't work for you)
First, a close-up of the lit labels for the idiot lights...
http://s1128.photobucket.com/albums/m491/ckrockettpacbellnet/?action=view
<http://s1128.photobucket.com/albums/m491/ckrockettpacbellnet/?action=view&c
urrent=IMG_2648.jpg> ¤t=IMG_2648.jpg
or
http://tiny.cc/hkn01
then, a shot of nearby gauges, the idiot lights, and the unlit (and
unreadable) gauges...
http://s1128.photobucket.com/albums/m491/ckrockettpacbellnet/?action=view
<http://s1128.photobucket.com/albums/m491/ckrockettpacbellnet/?action=view&c
urrent=IMG_2642.jpg> ¤t=IMG_2642.jpg
or
http://tiny.cc/3kzsn
and, a general dash shot, for context...
http://s1128.photobucket.com/albums/m491/ckrockettpacbellnet/?action=view
<http://s1128.photobucket.com/albums/m491/ckrockettpacbellnet/?action=view&c
urrent=IMG_2640.jpg> ¤t=IMG_2640.jpg
or
http://tiny.cc/5m87a
and now for the description:
this is a vertical row of button-type indicator (idiot) lights for...
> Set Travel
> Gen./Alt.
> Door Ajar
> Low Fuel
> Cruise Cntrl
> Air Comp.
> Park Brake
> Brake Sys.
The lights work fine (as far as I can tell... I haven't sorted out what
"Set Travel" would be lit for). And the script (see list above) is
unreadable unless it's fairly dark and the dash lights are on (as you can
tell in the first pic linked above).
I tried cobbling up a 'decal' on transparent film with the text for each
indicator, and the separator lines, so they would approximately line up and
provide something readable in daylight as well as at night. THAT didn't
work (aside from being a PITA to try to get sized and aligned accurately).
I'm begging for suggestions and hope someone already knows a fix for this.
AND REMEMBER: IT AIN'T WORTH DOIN' IF YA CAN'T MAKE IT FUN!!
Carl Hockett & Sharon Reese
Santa Rosa, California
And beyond!!! .
CanyonLanders@pacbell.net
'73 GMC Canyon Lands 260 Motorhome
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| Re: [GMCnet] Help!! Ijit Lites and lit script [message #146878 is a reply to message #146872] |
Mon, 17 October 2011 22:17  |
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jaholland
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| CanyonLanders wrote on Mon, 17 October 2011 21:24 |
Just got my first hint that my newly acquired '73 Canyon Lands 260 (in
Bittersweet; formerly the "Orangeblossom Special") dash indicator labels
and lights format may NOT be stock/standard (shows how much I know!!;^) And
I have a problem with it that now I wonder how many others have this format
of dash indicators, and what fixes are known (confused? Me too).
The only way I can really be clear is to post a picture, so I will... and
here's a link to three of them:
(but I'll try to describe it below in case the links don't cooperate; I put
in both the full web address of all three pix, along with a "Tiny URL" for
each, just in case the long forms don't work for you)
First, a close-up of the lit labels for the idiot lights...
http://s1128.photobucket.com/albums/m491/ckrockettpacbellnet/?action=view
<http://s1128.photobucket.com/albums/m491/ckrockettpacbellnet/?action=view&c
urrent=IMG_2648.jpg> ¤t=IMG_2648.jpg
or
http://tiny.cc/hkn01
then, a shot of nearby gauges, the idiot lights, and the unlit (and
unreadable) gauges...
http://s1128.photobucket.com/albums/m491/ckrockettpacbellnet/?action=view
<http://s1128.photobucket.com/albums/m491/ckrockettpacbellnet/?action=view&c
urrent=IMG_2642.jpg> ¤t=IMG_2642.jpg
or
http://tiny.cc/3kzsn
and, a general dash shot, for context...
http://s1128.photobucket.com/albums/m491/ckrockettpacbellnet/?action=view
<http://s1128.photobucket.com/albums/m491/ckrockettpacbellnet/?action=view&c
urrent=IMG_2640.jpg> ¤t=IMG_2640.jpg
or
http://tiny.cc/5m87a
and now for the description:
this is a vertical row of button-type indicator (idiot) lights for...
> Set Travel
> Gen./Alt.
> Door Ajar
> Low Fuel
> Cruise Cntrl
> Air Comp.
> Park Brake
> Brake Sys.
The lights work fine (as far as I can tell... I haven't sorted out what
"Set Travel" would be lit for). And the script (see list above) is
unreadable unless it's fairly dark and the dash lights are on (as you can
tell in the first pic linked above).
I tried cobbling up a 'decal' on transparent film with the text for each
indicator, and the separator lines, so they would approximately line up and
provide something readable in daylight as well as at night. THAT didn't
work (aside from being a PITA to try to get sized and aligned accurately).
I'm begging for suggestions and hope someone already knows a fix for this.
AND REMEMBER: IT AIN'T WORTH DOIN' IF YA CAN'T MAKE IT FUN!!
Carl Hockett & Sharon Reese
Santa Rosa, California
And beyond!!! .
CanyonLanders@pacbell.net
'73 GMC Canyon Lands 260 Motorhome
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Hey !
Did you acquire the Canyon Lands from Paul in Traverse City Michigan ?
It really does look like the '73 that I purchased new ~
If you need the original dash, I would consider a trade-off ~
~ Joe ~
/_]*[__][] *[__|] ~ * '73 TZE063V101887 "
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O----------OO--]* ~ '78 TZE168V100234 "
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" Joe & Lavelle " "
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'sweet home alebamy'
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| Re: [GMCnet] Help!! Ijit Lites and lit script [message #146881 is a reply to message #146872] |
Mon, 17 October 2011 22:44 |
midlf
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| CanyonLanders wrote on Mon, 17 October 2011 21:24 |
Just got my first hint that my newly acquired '73 Canyon Lands 260 (in
Bittersweet; formerly the "Orangeblossom Special") dash indicator labels
and lights format may NOT be stock/standard (shows how much I know!!;^) And
I have a problem with it that now I wonder how many others have this format
of dash indicators, and what fixes are known (confused? Me too).
<SNIP>
The lights work fine (as far as I can tell... I haven't sorted out what
"Set Travel" would be lit for). And the script (see list above) is
unreadable unless it's fairly dark and the dash lights are on (as you can
tell in the first pic linked above).
BTW - I LOVE your tag line!
AND REMEMBER: IT AIN'T WORTH DOIN' IF YA CAN'T MAKE IT FUN!!
Carl Hockett & Sharon Reese
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First off, this is not the standard OEM GMC MH dash and I don't know how many others have a similar dash.
I would love to know how the lighted labels system works. If we knew that we may be able to determine a fix. Is it backlit with incandescent bulbs or electroluminescent wire or LEDs. From the color it looks like it might be EL wire. As far as I am concerned your system is better than stock because at least in bright light you can see that an idiot light is lit.
The "set travel" is a light that comes on for a set period of time when the coach is put in gear to remind the driver to set the powerlevel valves to "travel". When working properly it has, I believe, an annoying buzzer. (Ours is not working)
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Help!! Ijit Lites and lit script [message #146884 is a reply to message #146881] |
Mon, 17 October 2011 22:52 |
Len Novak
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The stock light is/was a fiber optic cable that ran off a light bulb controlled by the dimmer function in the headlight switch. Over the years the cable degraded or broke making the entire system inop. In addition the stock kit did not illuminate all the dash labels. As I have been told there were few, if any stock GM replacement cables to be had.
Now the fun part, my kit fixes all that!
--
Len and Pat
78 Kingsley, The Beast II with dash lights that work
Fallbrook, CA
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
www.bdub.net/novak/
---- Steve Southworth <midlf@centurytel.net> wrote:
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> CanyonLanders wrote on Mon, 17 October 2011 21:24
> > Just got my first hint that my newly acquired '73 Canyon Lands 260 (in
> > Bittersweet; formerly the "Orangeblossom Special") dash indicator labels
> > and lights format may NOT be stock/standard (shows how much I know!!;^) And
> > I have a problem with it that now I wonder how many others have this format
> > of dash indicators, and what fixes are known (confused? Me too).
> >
> > <SNIP>
> >
> > The lights work fine (as far as I can tell... I haven't sorted out what
> > "Set Travel" would be lit for). And the script (see list above) is
> > unreadable unless it's fairly dark and the dash lights are on (as you can
> > tell in the first pic linked above).
> >
> > BTW - I LOVE your tag line!
> >
> >
> >
> > AND REMEMBER: IT AIN'T WORTH DOIN' IF YA CAN'T MAKE IT FUN!!
> >
> >
> >
> > Carl Hockett & Sharon Reese
>
>
>
> First off, this is not the standard OEM GMC MH dash and I don't know how many others have a similar dash.
>
> I would love to know how the lighted labels system works. If we knew that we may be able to determine a fix. Is it backlit with incandescent bulbs or electroluminescent wire or LEDs. From the color it looks like it might be EL wire. As far as I am concerned your system is better than stock because at least in bright light you can see that an idiot light is lit.
>
> The "set travel" is a light that comes on for a set period of time when the coach is put in gear to remind the driver to set the powerlevel valves to "travel". When working properly it has, I believe, an annoying buzzer. (Ours is not working)
> --
> Steve Southworth
> 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
> 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
> Palmyra WI
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1978 GMC Kingsley
The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
Las Vegas, NV new email: B52sRule@Gmail.com
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
www.bdub.net/novak/
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| Re: [GMCnet] Help!! Ijit Lites and lit script [message #146894 is a reply to message #146884] |
Tue, 18 October 2011 00:59 |
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ljdavick
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Hey - I've done this upgrade and it's quick and really works!
Talk about a feel good project. Buy the new fiber cable and new labels toss them in the dash, sit in the coach at night and glow!
I've done this and it's easy!
Larry Davick
Sent from my iPad
On Oct 17, 2011, at 8:52 PM, <b52rule@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> The stock light is/was a fiber optic cable that ran off a light bulb controlled by the dimmer function in the headlight switch. Over the years the cable degraded or broke making the entire system inop. In addition the stock kit did not illuminate all the dash labels. As I have been told there were few, if any stock GM replacement cables to be had.
>
> Now the fun part, my kit fixes all that!
> --
> Len and Pat
> 78 Kingsley, The Beast II with dash lights that work
> Fallbrook, CA
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
> www.bdub.net/novak/
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Howell EFI + EBL + Electronic Dizzy
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| Re: [GMCnet] Help!! Ijit Lites and lit script [message #150882 is a reply to message #146878] |
Mon, 28 November 2011 17:56 |
CanyonLanders
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Did not get this from Paul in Traverse City, MI. From John Shoenfield,
Flint, MI. He was second owner since 1978.
Under other (or eventual) circumstances, I might be interested in restoring
to the original dash. But, for now, we shot our wad on getting her and
doing some 'fixin-up' courtesy Jim Kanomata/Applied GMC (Hi Jim). I kinda
like the dash as is, mostly, but there's a few things to do. I don't know
what feeds the backlighting on the indicators/text in question, but I'll
check that out as soon as I can <btw, sorry for long time getting back...
it's been busy, and I got more than GMC Motorhomes on my mind and agenda...
simply not enough 'round-tuits'.>
Will update as I get the info.
Thanks to all for the responses.
AND REMEMBER: IT AIN'T WORTH DOIN' IF YA CAN'T MAKE IT FUN!!
Carl Hockett & Sharon Reese
Santa Rosa, California
And beyond!!! .
CanyonLanders@pacbell.net
’73 GMC Canyon Lands 260 Motorhome
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Help!! Ijit Lites and lit script
CanyonLanders wrote on Mon, 17 October 2011 21:24
> Just got my first hint that my newly acquired '73 Canyon Lands 260 (in
> Bittersweet; formerly the "Orangeblossom Special") dash indicator
[CAH >>> ] <<< SNIP >>>>
>
> AND REMEMBER: IT AIN'T WORTH DOIN' IF YA CAN'T MAKE IT FUN!!
>
> Carl Hockett & Sharon Reese
>
> Santa Rosa, California
>
> And beyond!!! .
>
> CanyonLanders@pacbell.net
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> '73 GMC Canyon Lands 260 Motorhome
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Hey !
Did you acquire the Canyon Lands from Paul in Traverse City Michigan ?
It really does look like the '73 that I purchased new ~
If you need the original dash, I would consider a trade-off ~
~ Joe ~
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/_]*[__][] *[__|] ~ * '73 TZE063V101887 ""
O---------OO--]* ~ '78 TZE168V100234 ""
" Joe & Lavelle " ""
'sweet home alebamy'
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| Re: [GMCnet] Help!! Ijit Lites and lit script [message #150883 is a reply to message #146884] |
Mon, 28 November 2011 17:58 |
CanyonLanders
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Thanks, but apparently since I don't have an OEM dash (doesn't look like
yours in the pix), your kit will not likely help me. Still sorting it out.
Someone else offered up an original dash, but I can't go there presently.
Not entirely sure I will want to. Will do some sorting out of what I have
first, decide later.
Thanks to all for input.
AND REMEMBER: IT AIN'T WORTH DOIN' IF YA CAN'T MAKE IT FUN!!
Carl Hockett & Sharon Reese
Santa Rosa, California
And beyond!!! .
CanyonLanders@pacbell.net
’73 GMC Canyon Lands 260 Motorhome
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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of b52rule@roadrunner.com
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 8:53 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Help!! Ijit Lites and lit script
The stock light is/was a fiber optic cable that ran off a light bulb
controlled by the dimmer function in the headlight switch. Over the years
the cable degraded or broke making the entire system inop. In addition the
stock kit did not illuminate all the dash labels. As I have been told there
were few, if any stock GM replacement cables to be had.
Now the fun part, my kit fixes all that!
--
Len and Pat
78 Kingsley, The Beast II with dash lights that work Fallbrook, CA
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
www.bdub.net/novak/
---- Steve Southworth <midlf@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
>
> CanyonLanders wrote on Mon, 17 October 2011 21:24
> > Just got my first hint that my newly acquired '73 Canyon Lands 260
> > (in Bittersweet; formerly the "Orangeblossom Special") dash
> > indicator labels and lights format may NOT be stock/standard (shows
> > how much I know!!;^) And I have a problem with it that now I wonder
> > how many others have this format of dash indicators, and what fixes are
known (confused? Me too).
> >
> > <SNIP>
> >
> > The lights work fine (as far as I can tell... I haven't sorted out
> > what "Set Travel" would be lit for). And the script (see list
> > above) is unreadable unless it's fairly dark and the dash lights are
> > on (as you can tell in the first pic linked above).
> >
> > BTW - I LOVE your tag line!
> >
> >
> >
> > AND REMEMBER: IT AIN'T WORTH DOIN' IF YA CAN'T MAKE IT FUN!!
> >
> >
> >
> > Carl Hockett & Sharon Reese
>
>
>
> First off, this is not the standard OEM GMC MH dash and I don't know how
many others have a similar dash.
>
> I would love to know how the lighted labels system works. If we knew that
we may be able to determine a fix. Is it backlit with incandescent bulbs or
electroluminescent wire or LEDs. From the color it looks like it might be
EL wire. As far as I am concerned your system is better than stock because
at least in bright light you can see that an idiot light is lit.
>
> The "set travel" is a light that comes on for a set period of time
> when the coach is put in gear to remind the driver to set the
> powerlevel valves to "travel". When working properly it has, I
> believe, an annoying buzzer. (Ours is not working)
> --
> Steve Southworth
> 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
> 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares) Palmyra WI
> _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] Help!! Ijit Lites and lit script [message #151029 is a reply to message #150883] |
Tue, 29 November 2011 20:23 |
Bob de Kruyff
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""Thanks, but apparently since I don't have an OEM dash (doesn't look like
yours in the pix), your kit will not likely help me. Still sorting it out.
Someone else offered up an original dash, but I can't go there presently.
Not entirely sure I will want to. Will do some sorting out of what I have
first, decide later.
Thanks to all for input.""
It looks like John got rid of the troublesome indicator lights in the stock dash. Frankly, what you have is a nice setup. I suspect after you have used the coach for a while, you will know each light by position and color. Other than the cruise light, most should be off in normal operation. I'd leave it as is.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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