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[GMCnet] Air bag riser set wanted [message #146840] Mon, 17 October 2011 16:57 Go to next message
Gerald Work is currently offline  Gerald Work   United States
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Anyone have a good set of air bag risers for the original two bag set up that they are willing to part with? Pm me off line if you do...... Glwork at Mac dot com....... I am in southern Oregon. Thanks.

Jerry

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Re: [GMCnet] Air bag riser set wanted [message #146846 is a reply to message #146840] Mon, 17 October 2011 17:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What are air bag risers? Do you mean the cones that go in the airbag?
Re: [GMCnet] Air bag riser set wanted [message #146848 is a reply to message #146846] Mon, 17 October 2011 18:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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no
these are what he is looking for
http://gmcmotorhome.info/figs/Bags.gif

http://gmcmotorhome.info/rear.html#air

gene



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Re: [GMCnet] Air bag riser set wanted [message #146850 is a reply to message #146840] Mon, 17 October 2011 18:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Jerry from Sunny Santa Teresa, New Mexico
I have a pair of the risers
Let me know
Marcel
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Subject: [GMCnet] Air bag riser set wanted


> Anyone have a good set of air bag risers for the original two bag set up
> that they are willing to part with? Pm me off line if you do...... Glwork
> at Mac dot com....... I am in southern Oregon. Thanks.
>
> Jerry
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Re: [GMCnet] Air bag riser set wanted [message #146859 is a reply to message #146846] Mon, 17 October 2011 19:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mark,
Risers are used to position air bags higher for a softer ride as it
requires less air pressure and the spring rate will be effected.
Some like it and others felt that it tended to have less control.

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Re: [GMCnet] Air bag riser set wanted [message #146887 is a reply to message #146840] Mon, 17 October 2011 23:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
zhagrieb is currently offline  zhagrieb   United States
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Jerry,

I have a set. $1.63 or best offer..

Glenn


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Re: [GMCnet] Air bag riser set wanted [message #146899 is a reply to message #146840] Tue, 18 October 2011 04:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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Manny loves the ones on his coach and has used them for years.

this is how the "Quada bag" lowers it's pressure

http://goo.gl/LVuRu
vs
http://goo.gl/QUii1

will be interesting to see how it works for you
gene



On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Gerald Work <glwork@me.com> wrote:

> Anyone have a good set of air bag risers for the original two bag set up
> that they are willing to part with? Pm me off line if you do...... Glwork
> at Mac dot com....... I am in southern Oregon. Thanks.
>
> Jerry
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Re: [GMCnet] Air bag riser set wanted [message #146907 is a reply to message #146899] Tue, 18 October 2011 08:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gene,

The Quadra Bag uses Firestone Airbag P/N W01-358-7325 which uses bellows #26 which has an OD of 7.44 inches.

Leigh Harrison's Four Bag uses Firestone Airbag P/N W01-358-3400 which uses bellows #224C which has an OD of 7.25 inches.

The additional OD of the bag contributes to being able to run lower pressures also.

I am aware of a GMC owner who replaced the forward P/N W01-358-3400 airbags with P/N W01-358-7325 and it lowered the pressure
required to set the ride height on his Royale by 10 PSI; from 115 psi to 105 psi. It did not affect the coaches handling or ride
quality.

Regards,
Rob M.

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Manny loves the ones on his coach and has used them for years.

this is how the "Quada bag" lowers it's pressure

http://goo.gl/LVuRu
vs
http://goo.gl/QUii1

will be interesting to see how it works for you
gene



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Re: [GMCnet] Air bag riser set wanted [message #146909 is a reply to message #146907] Tue, 18 October 2011 08:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> The Quadra Bag uses Firestone Airbag P/N W01-358-7325 which uses bellows
> #26 which has an OD of 7.44 inches.
>

I don't own it, but I beleve the Quadra Bag runs at about 90 lb. (unless you
are raising for leveling)

we are looking for ways to keep the pressure below 100 lb
thanks
gene

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Re: [GMCnet] Air bag riser set wanted [message #146914 is a reply to message #146909] Tue, 18 October 2011 09:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gene,

Why? Curious minds want to know!

According to other documentation I have (but am too lazy to find, copy, cut, and paste into this message) both bags are rated at 150
psi and IIRC have a burst pressure more than twice that.

Regards,
Rob M.

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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of gene Fisher


> The Quadra Bag uses Firestone Airbag P/N W01-358-7325 which uses bellows
> #26 which has an OD of 7.44 inches.
>

I don't own it, but I beleve the Quadra Bag runs at about 90 lb. (unless you
are raising for leveling)

we are looking for ways to keep the pressure below 100 lb
thanks
gene

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Re: [GMCnet] Air bag riser set wanted [message #146915 is a reply to message #146914] Tue, 18 October 2011 09:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob, I believe that some seek lower air pressure because they feel that is
taking a significant load off the air compressor, and gives slightly faster
rise times to the suspension. If there is much of a difference in ride
quality, it would be minimal in my opinion. My best guess and I'm stickin'
to it, purely no scientific data to back it up, probably comes under the
topic of "Bench Racing". When are you going to be stateside again?
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>wrote:

> Gene,
>
> Why? Curious minds want to know!
>
> According to other documentation I have (but am too lazy to find, copy,
> cut, and paste into this message) both bags are rated at 150
> psi and IIRC have a burst pressure more than twice that.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:
> gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of gene Fisher
>
>
> > The Quadra Bag uses Firestone Airbag P/N W01-358-7325 which uses bellows
> > #26 which has an OD of 7.44 inches.
> >
>
> I don't own it, but I beleve the Quadra Bag runs at about 90 lb. (unless
> you
> are raising for leveling)
>
> we are looking for ways to keep the pressure below 100 lb
> thanks
> gene
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Air bag riser set wanted [message #146916 is a reply to message #146840] Tue, 18 October 2011 09:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gerry,

Tried PM. System says you're not accepting.

My daughter lives in Hillsbore, Ore.,near Glenn Giere.

I will be meeting her in Elkton this weekend. If you like she can get the risers from Glenn and I can drop thim off in Kerby on my way back to Red Bluff next week.

$1.63 and free shipping. Sounds like a good deal.


Gene Barrow
Lake Almanor, Ca.
1976 Palm Beach
Re: [GMCnet] Air bag riser set wanted [message #146918 is a reply to message #146914] Tue, 18 October 2011 09:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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[quote title=Robert Mueller wrote on Tue, 18 October 2011 10:15]Gene,

Why? Curious minds want to know!

According to other documentation I have (but am too lazy to find, copy, cut, and paste into this message) both bags are rated at 150
psi and IIRC have a burst pressure more than twice that.

Regards,
Rob M.






Rob: Just from what I know... The KW big trucks have an 8 bag air ride system, 2 bags per wheel and are the best riding truck on the planet. The system has 90lb regulators on the tank outlets for the bags to keep max pressure below 9olb even tho the air tanks have 125lb in them. I have accidently in the past loaded 2 or more loads at the same time and the bags still came to ride height and handled the weight. I am sure the geometry has a lot to do with it along with the huge capacity of the 8 bags. The early systems run 2 leveling valves (1 per side) as the GMC, Later system uses one leveling valve for both sides. Big trucks are usually more weight balanced side to side than the GMC.


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Re: [GMCnet] Air bag riser set wanted [message #147013 is a reply to message #146887] Wed, 19 October 2011 00:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Glenn,
Ok, you have a buyer for the bag risers and I am the delivery person.

I need contact info so my daughter can pick up the risers before Friday. She will bring them to me and I will deliver to Jerry.
She lives in Hillsboro. How can we make contact to pick up the risers.


Gene Barrow
Lake Almanor, Ca.
1976 Palm Beach
Re: [GMCnet] Air bag riser set wanted [message #147016 is a reply to message #146840] Wed, 19 October 2011 00:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Other documents I (but they are too lazy to find, copy, cut and paste in this post) the two bags is estimated at 150

IIRC PSI and burst pressure are more than twice.


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Re: [GMCnet] Air bag riser set wanted [message #147143 is a reply to message #146915] Wed, 19 October 2011 21:30 Go to previous message
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Jim,

In Jerry's case it turned out to be limitations of the Wireless control system.

For the record I replaced all the tubing in Double Trouble's Power Level System and it already had JR's valves two years ago and I
haven't had any problems since. I think I invested a couple hundred bucks in total for the tubing and fittings. I'm going to do the
same with The Blue Streak.

As we "speak" I'm making flight reservations to return to the USA in mid February and plan on staying thru mid April to work on
Double Trouble. It's just too bloody hot in Texas in June to get much done. You start at 8:00 and by noon your dead meat!

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: James Hupy

Rob, I believe that some seek lower air pressure because they feel that is
taking a significant load off the air compressor, and gives slightly faster
rise times to the suspension. If there is much of a difference in ride
quality, it would be minimal in my opinion. My best guess and I'm stickin'
to it, purely no scientific data to back it up, probably comes under the
topic of "Bench Racing". When are you going to be stateside again?
Jim Hupy


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