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JShot
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Interesting day yesterday - walked into the local bank around noon, saw a guy laying face down on the carpet. Didn't realize what he was doing until some other guy, standing about two feet to my right, said "get on the ground".
I turned and looked into the ski mask covered face of a gun toting dude who was in the process of an armed robbery. I said "you got it", and hit the deck.
This all happened in a flash, and the whole episode was over in about 90 seconds. The thoughts were 'what is that guy doing on the floor', and 'why is this dude wearing a mask and sunglasses', and 'what's that in his hand'?. Oh, I get it---but in Ridgeville???
The girls behind the counter were visibly shaken and terrified. Turns out the guy laying on the carpet was my brother-in-law. We waited for the sheriff''s guys to come and take statements. Just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Seems the dude had just hit another place about a half hour north of here. Made the 6 o'clock news.
Not a real fun time...was kinda worried that I wouldn't see my birthday on Monday!
John
John Shotwell
Ridgeville Corners, OH
78 Royale Center Kitchen
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| Re: [GMCnet] Just another day in the life of a GMCer [message #146579 is a reply to message #146577] |
Sat, 15 October 2011 08:22  |
Kingsley Coach
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John
Pretty hard on the nervous system I would think!
Good thing you weren't carrying the GMC registry files with you...They're
valuable!
...and Happy Birthday on Monday good that you will be able to make it !
Mike in NS
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 10:13 AM, John Shotwell <jshot@rtecexpress.net>wrote:
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> Interesting day yesterday - walked into the local bank around noon, saw a
> guy laying face down on the carpet. Didn't realize what he was doing until
> some other guy, standing about two feet to my right, said "get on the
> ground".
>
> I turned and looked into the ski mask covered face of a gun toting dude who
> was in the process of an armed robbery. I said "you got it", and hit the
> deck.
>
> This all happened in a flash, and the whole episode was over in about 90
> seconds. The thoughts were 'what is that guy doing on the floor', and 'why
> is this dude wearing a mask and sunglasses', and 'what's that in his hand'?.
> Oh, I get it---but in Ridgeville???
>
> The girls behind the counter were visibly shaken and terrified. Turns out
> the guy laying on the carpet was my brother-in-law. We waited for the
> sheriff''s guys to come and take statements. Just in the wrong place at the
> wrong time.
>
> Seems the dude had just hit another place about a half hour north of here.
> Made the 6 o'clock news.
>
> Not a real fun time...was kinda worried that I wouldn't see my birthday on
> Monday!
>
> John
> --
> John Shotwell
> Ridgeville Corners, OH
> 78 Royale Center Kitchen
> Web Site: GMCmhRegistry.com /
> Email: john@gmcmhregistry.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Just another day in the life of a GMCer [message #146581 is a reply to message #146577] |
Sat, 15 October 2011 08:27 |
Mr ERFisher
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HOLY SHIT .....
I would have had to clean up after my self
gene
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 6:13 AM, John Shotwell <jshot@rtecexpress.net>wrote:
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> Interesting day yesterday - walked into the local bank around noon, saw a
> guy laying face down on the carpet. Didn't realize what he was doing until
> some other guy, standing about two feet to my right, said "get on the
> ground".
>
> I turned and looked into the ski mask covered face of a gun toting dude who
> was in the process of an armed robbery. I said "you got it", and hit the
> deck.
>
> This all happened in a flash, and the whole episode was over in about 90
> seconds. The thoughts were 'what is that guy doing on the floor', and 'why
> is this dude wearing a mask and sunglasses', and 'what's that in his hand'?.
> Oh, I get it---but in Ridgeville???
>
> The girls behind the counter were visibly shaken and terrified. Turns out
> the guy laying on the carpet was my brother-in-law. We waited for the
> sheriff''s guys to come and take statements. Just in the wrong place at the
> wrong time.
>
> Seems the dude had just hit another place about a half hour north of here.
> Made the 6 o'clock news.
>
> Not a real fun time...was kinda worried that I wouldn't see my birthday on
> Monday!
>
> John
> --
> John Shotwell
> Ridgeville Corners, OH
> 78 Royale Center Kitchen
> Web Site: GMCmhRegistry.com /
> Email: john@gmcmhregistry.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Just another day in the life of a GMCer [message #146588 is a reply to message #146577] |
Sat, 15 October 2011 09:16 |
James Hupy
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With a name like Shotwell, and you and your brother-in-law in the bank being
robbed at the same time, there are surely unseen forces at work here. John
you need to go buy some MegaBucks tickets. The blessing that you received
yesterday is not to be ignored. Greet every sunrise from now on as a special
gift and make the highest and best use of every day. Love your family and
enjoy life. You received a life extension yesterday. I am glad that you were
not harmed nor was anyone else. What banks need are double entry doors,
single width, with a short corridor between them that houses a floor panel
that falls away with a chipper located directly below. When someone robs a
bank, the teller pushes a button, the chipper starts and we can use the
remains to fertilize the trees in the city park. No trial, no court
appointed attorneys, no bleeding heart judges. No early release, no parole.
Society has entirely too many of those people that think they have an
entitlement to that which others have long labored to obtain. I think I will
go work on a GMC and give thanks for the privelage of doing so. I guess
blessings are where you find them. John, again I am glad that you were not
harmed.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 6:13 AM, John Shotwell <jshot@rtecexpress.net>wrote:
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>
> Interesting day yesterday - walked into the local bank around noon, saw a
> guy laying face down on the carpet. Didn't realize what he was doing until
> some other guy, standing about two feet to my right, said "get on the
> ground".
>
> I turned and looked into the ski mask covered face of a gun toting dude who
> was in the process of an armed robbery. I said "you got it", and hit the
> deck.
>
> This all happened in a flash, and the whole episode was over in about 90
> seconds. The thoughts were 'what is that guy doing on the floor', and 'why
> is this dude wearing a mask and sunglasses', and 'what's that in his hand'?.
> Oh, I get it---but in Ridgeville???
>
> The girls behind the counter were visibly shaken and terrified. Turns out
> the guy laying on the carpet was my brother-in-law. We waited for the
> sheriff''s guys to come and take statements. Just in the wrong place at the
> wrong time.
>
> Seems the dude had just hit another place about a half hour north of here.
> Made the 6 o'clock news.
>
> Not a real fun time...was kinda worried that I wouldn't see my birthday on
> Monday!
>
> John
> --
> John Shotwell
> Ridgeville Corners, OH
> 78 Royale Center Kitchen
> Web Site: GMCmhRegistry.com /
> Email: john@gmcmhregistry.com
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| Re: Just another day in the life of a GMCer [message #146647 is a reply to message #146577] |
Sat, 15 October 2011 21:05 |
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JShot
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Thanks guys - I needed that!
My wife and I took the day off and went up into Michigan to visit a few quilt shops, then we had a nice quiet and romantic dinner on the way home.
We were close to the "American Jewelry and Loan" place west of Detroit, the one on TV called 'Hard Core Pawn', so we stopped and checked it out. That was a trip.
Lying on the floor in the bank, I was really quite calm. I figured the guy was there for the money, none of us were a threat to him, and hopefully he would split when he had what he wanted. The girls said later that he never said anything about harming them, about shooting them, etc. So he did just what I figured, and hoped, he would do.
But the thought did flash through my head that if this was it, then so be it - not much I could do about it. But it was one of the most real experiences I have ever had.
Thanks again for the support - it's sure good to know we all have this great extended family out there!
John
John Shotwell
Ridgeville Corners, OH
78 Royale Center Kitchen
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| Re: [GMCnet] Just another day in the life of a GMCer [message #146650 is a reply to message #146647] |
Sat, 15 October 2011 21:10 |
Russell Mehlenbacher
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I suspect the real risk from an event like that would be a cardiac or other
nasty event. Every so often we hear of someone being "scared to death". It
happens!
Glad you are made of stronger stuff!
Russ
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 10:05 PM, John Shotwell <jshot@rtecexpress.net>wrote:
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> Thanks guys - I needed that!
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> My wife and I took the day off and went up into Michigan to visit a few
> quilt shops, then we had a nice quiet and romantic dinner on the way home.
>
> We were close to the "American Jewelry and Loan" place west of Detroit, the
> one on TV called 'Hard Core Pawn', so we stopped and checked it out. That
> was a trip.
>
> Lying on the floor in the bank, I was really quite calm. I figured the guy
> was there for the money, none of us were a threat to him, and hopefully he
> would split when he had what he wanted. The girls said later that he never
> said anything about harming them, about shooting them, etc. So he did just
> what I figured, and hoped, he would do.
>
> But the thought did flash through my head that if this was it, then so be
> it - not much I could do about it. But it was one of the most real
> experiences I have ever had.
>
> Thanks again for the support - it's sure good to know we all have this
> great extended family out there!
>
> John
> --
> John Shotwell
> Ridgeville Corners, OH
> 78 Royale Center Kitchen
> Web Site: GMCmhRegistry.com /
> Email: john@gmcmhregistry.com
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Rochester Hills, MI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Just another day in the life of a GMCer [message #146674 is a reply to message #146577] |
Sun, 16 October 2011 09:22 |
jhbridges
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Haoppy Brithday! And remember, brothers-in-law often lead to trouble :):)
Glad you're OK
--johnny
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From: John Shotwell <jshot@rtecexpress.net>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 9:13 AM
Subject: [GMCnet] Just another day in the life of a GMCer
Interesting day yesterday - walked into the local bank around noon, saw a guy laying face down on the carpet. Didn't realize what he was doing until some other guy, standing about two feet to my right, said "get on the ground".
I turned and looked into the ski mask covered face of a gun toting dude who was in the process of an armed robbery. I said "you got it", and hit the deck.
This all happened in a flash, and the whole episode was over in about 90 seconds. The thoughts were 'what is that guy doing on the floor', and 'why is this dude wearing a mask and sunglasses', and 'what's that in his hand'?. Oh, I get it---but in Ridgeville???
The girls behind the counter were visibly shaken and terrified. Turns out the guy laying on the carpet was my brother-in-law. We waited for the sheriff''s guys to come and take statements. Just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Seems the dude had just hit another place about a half hour north of here. Made the 6 o'clock news.
Not a real fun time...was kinda worried that I wouldn't see my birthday on Monday!
John
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Ridgeville Corners, OH
78 Royale Center Kitchen
Web Site: GMCmhRegistry.com /
Email: john@gmcmhregistry.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Just another day in the life of a GMCer [message #146679 is a reply to message #146609] |
Sun, 16 October 2011 09:41 |
jhbridges
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I worked as a kid in a neighbor's hardware. We kept a pistol available to the register clerk. Instructions were explicit: Give an armed robber anything he wants and don't do something foolish like go for a gun. >IF< he turns away and moves his aim and eyes elswhere, cobsider the possibility, and if you can get a clear shot, knock him down.
Remember, however, theis was rural central Alabama in ther early 60s, and we all were neighbors, knew each other and out capabilities, and had been hunters together for years. None of those situations obtain today. For a masked robber, hit the deck and hope for the best.
Come into the coach at night unannounced, we'll do business though.
--johnny
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From: Matt Colie <matt7323tze@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Just another day in the life of a GMCer
JimGunther wrote on Sat, 15 October 2011 12:36
> Not trying to start a political argument but, wonder if anybody carrying a legal weapon could have "helped".
Sorry Jim,
But not without great risk to his own person.
The bank has insurance.
Let the bank teller give him the exploding dye pack.
When you walk into a situation where the perp is already in control and you are surprised by it (as I believe John was), the act of going for a weapon is just as likely to end poorly. This according to LEO friends of mine.
Get the best description of him that you can get and pay special attention to his speech as he will disguise his appearance. If his gate (walk) is at all different, that one is a big lead as well.
I am personally very glad that this ended well for John.
Matt
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| Re: Just another day in the life of a GMCer [message #146752 is a reply to message #146607] |
Sun, 16 October 2011 22:32 |
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| JimGunther wrote on Sat, 15 October 2011 11:36 |
Not trying to start a political argument but, wonder if anybody carrying a legal weapon could have "helped".
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I have been present in three different armed robberies in my life. One in Canada, one in Mexico, and one in Indiana. On the one in Indiana I was armed but never let on that I was. It was not my job to stop him.
I never drew my .38 even after he left. In all three robberies the perp was careful not to really point the gun at anyone so there was really never any fear of being hurt. All they were doing was showing a gun so you would comply.
Armed or not, Give him what he wants and let him go. We have people in our society that we pay to chase cars for a living. They have a secondary job to chase bank and business robbers. Leave it to them.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Just another day in the life of a GMCer [message #146761 is a reply to message #146752] |
Sun, 16 October 2011 23:28 |
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USAussie
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Ken,
Goes to show just how wise you are!
Wasn't there a case where a good Samaritan stopped a crime and the perp did not get convicted and sued the good Samaritan?
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Of Ken Burton
I have been present in three different armed robberies in my life. One in Canada, one in Mexico, and one in Indiana. On the one
in Indiana I was armed but never let on that I was. It was not my job to stop him.
I never drew my .38 even after he left. In all three robberies the perp was careful not to really point the gun at anyone so there
was really never any fear of being hurt. All they were doing was showing a gun so you would comply.
Armed or not, Give him what he wants and let him go. We have people in our society that we pay to chase cars for a living. They
have a secondary job to chase bank and business robbers. Leave it to them.
--
Ken
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